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21 Sep 2008, 8:45 pm

How do you know so much about contrails, LeKiwi, if your field of study has nothing to do with meteorologic effects, and only with entertainment?



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21 Sep 2008, 8:56 pm

^Hey talking of entertainment I've just had the God Botherers around ahh they are such good sport. :lol:


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21 Sep 2008, 9:13 pm

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Your posts get more and more out-there every day. Chemtrails are goddamned vapor trails. They're made of carbon dioxide and water vapor. The reason why they're dangerous is because they contribute to global warming, not because the Illuminati/New World Order/Elders of Zion/Opus Dei/Jesuits want to kill us all.

Seriously, what's easier to believe: those trails are just vapor trails produced by airplanes, or some sinister group is spraying chemical agents to kill us all? Occam's Razor, dude.


You don't know which of these things is true, your logic just lets you imagine the right answere, which is the same thing you accuse me of.. anyone worthy of an opinion is guilty when they strike down someone else's in ignorance.



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21 Sep 2008, 9:13 pm

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And chemtrails look different. They're thicker, they're denser, they last a long time (as in, hours and hours... yes, some contrails can last a while and fan out into cirrus clouds but these ones don't), they often have greasy chemical smears through them... you'll know when you see them. I get a lot of normal contrails in my area too, but they aren't the ones we're talking about. You should know them when you see them.


I saw a huge contrail today when I was on my way to the Lehigh campus

I held my breath so I wouldn't be poisoned by space Nazis.

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You don't know which of these things is true, your logic just lets you imagine the right answere, which is the same thing you accuse me of..


Logic? Who needs it?


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21 Sep 2008, 9:18 pm

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Again, I'm not talking about Beck. It would be exactly the same as if the song was a song by Metallica or the Rolling Stones or the Ting Tings or Mariah Carey, or anyone else in between. It's become well enough known for a superstar to write a song about it.



The last album 2-Pac recorded before he died was called Killuminati, because when he went to prison for a while, he learned about the Illuminati while he was in there.. when he went back to record his record he was given full creative control, and that's what he called his album, of all things.. now, an artist like 2-pac doesn't seem like the kind of man to conspire.. and look what happened to him?.. he was f*****g killed, like JFK, like William Cooper, like lots of other people im sure..

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So why do they bombard people with super secret New World Order 'chemtrails' (whose purpose and composition you have yet to identify) in broad fucking daylight?

Because most citizens don't have the awareness level to give a s**t what's going on around them, just like 90% of the people in this forum.. I'd say that's a pretty good reason. They an get away with it, or they sure enjoy doing so.. :roll:



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21 Sep 2008, 9:19 pm

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I'll PM you. ;)

(Keep the mystery for anyone else, hehe).


Peacock feathers?


Keep guessin'... :D


I think it's a picture from a fair ride..??? (carnival, whatever you call it?)



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21 Sep 2008, 9:23 pm

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So.. how does captain camcorder know that one plane is the same height as the other?

I assume .. he does not.. as no-one has yet to offer evidence to the contrary.

Noticeably, I have spent a day or so now watching for trails, con or chem, and despite living less than 8miles from the longest runway in europe, I have seen no evidence of either. In fact, I recall little evidence of any such activity for a good two decades, despite spending that time on or around a major airbase.


Airbase?.. so who's making p facts now.. how do you know who's planes these are, and where their base is? :? I thought that was in question.. :roll: jut because you live near an airforce base does not mean the chemtrails have to be there.. in fact if you see NO contrails in your area, and you live near an airforce base..?? well then why dont the airforce base planes put off heavy duty contrails that don't go away. It seems everywhere on the planet the sky conditions are always just right for these criss cross chemtrail birds..



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21 Sep 2008, 9:28 pm

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Looping? Circling? Two reasons. Training exercises and holding patterns. Abilene is the city, right? .


Actually it's a global thing.. this isn't some two man conspiracy... many people are aware of this. So for people with preconceived notions about conspiracies come humming along and spot one that looks typical, they draw all the best science they can to make themselves appear smart, and also make themselves feel somehow political by coming up with all the best answers of why this is happening, rather than truly observing the problem.



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21 Sep 2008, 9:29 pm

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Because most citizens don't have the awareness level to give a sh** what's going on around them, just like 90% of the people in this forum.. I'd say that's a pretty good reason. They an get away with it, or they sure enjoy doing so.. :roll:


I'm pretty sure I was the only person here who knew about IPTO, which, in the long term, is a grave danger.

But there is evidence for IPTO, namely publicly available government documents. So that's a little bit different.


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21 Sep 2008, 9:30 pm

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Trouble with all this is that there is just no science to back up chemtrail claims. The video that SW posted has got to be one of the lamest conspiracy vids I have ever seen. It is really easy to get flight details for an area, if they had bothered to do this and could confirm some of the claims I might start to listen. On the face of it it does seem odd that the planes criss cross like that but not knowing why does not equal lacing the fuel with mind altering chemicals.



The 'conspiracy' actually didn't start with hat video for your information... :roll: It existed long before, and will exist until there is closure.



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21 Sep 2008, 9:31 pm

What are 'chemtrails' anyway? What are they made of? Has anyone bothered to try to, like, sample them or something?


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21 Sep 2008, 9:31 pm

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Because most citizens don't have the awareness level to give a sh** what's going on around them, just like 90% of the people in this forum.. I'd say that's a pretty good reason. They an get away with it, or they sure enjoy doing so.. :roll:


I'm pretty sure I was the only person here who knew about IPTO, which, in the long term, is a grave danger.

But there is evidence for IPTO, namely publicly available government documents. So that's a little bit different.


And what if government documents for terrorist activities aren't available.. hypothetically. then they don't exist, right? :roll:



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21 Sep 2008, 9:32 pm

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What are 'chemtrails' anyway? What are they made of? Has anyone bothered to try to, like, sample them or something?


I'd like to know as well.



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21 Sep 2008, 9:33 pm

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How do you know so much about contrails, LeKiwi, if your field of study has nothing to do with meteorologic effects, and only with entertainment?


I've heard of better doctors without a PHD.. ive seen people with better judgement who aren't judges... and I've seen better problem solvers who don't work for NASA.. get over your Major Corporate complex..



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21 Sep 2008, 9:33 pm

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chever wrote:
What are 'chemtrails' anyway? What are they made of? Has anyone bothered to try to, like, sample them or something?


I'd like to know as well.


Why are you getting your panties in a twist over something you don't even know the purpose of, assuming it even has a purpose?


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21 Sep 2008, 9:35 pm

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What are 'chemtrails' anyway? What are they made of? Has anyone bothered to try to, like, sample them or something?


I'd like to know as well.


Why are you getting your panties in a twist over something you don't even know the purpose of, assuming it even has a purpose?


My underpants (not panties thank you) were twisted by someone else.

But namely because I knew about this subject before I saw that video.