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slowmutant
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07 Dec 2008, 6:25 pm

You're welcome.



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14 Dec 2008, 2:20 pm

I'm an atheist and I have always felt this way.

To me: There is no god and I'm convinced of it. I'm more interested in science.



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14 Dec 2008, 4:18 pm

khelben1979 wrote:
I'm an atheist and I have always felt this way.

To me: There is no god and I'm convinced of it. I'm more interested in science.


I thank you for stating your position without having an attack or denigration of others worked into your statement. One's position on the God issue is not really what makes them good or bad as a person. If you're a basically decent person, your impact on the world will be positive.

I do not consider my religiosity alone to be what makes me a good or "better" person.

My hat is off to you, sir.



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14 Dec 2008, 7:26 pm

How have I not posted here yet? wow...

I do not accept the claims that gods exist (lack belief, am atheist) because there is no evidence or objective reason to believe in them. I would love to think that a magical sky-man loves me and that he'll give me eternal spiritual life and that I'll see my dead friends and relatives again.... but desiring something doesn't make it true, and I'd like to believe as few false things and as many true things as possible - I give a s**t whether my beliefs are true.

I positively assert (I believe) that gods do not exist (am anti-theist\strong atheist) because there are certain effects upon the world we would expect to observe from their existence. Not only that, but gods have been used to fill in the gaps in knowledge or emotion that humans desire to be filled, and over the ages gods rise and fall, they live and die with the amount of people that believe in them. Man made gods in their image. Gods are a construct of the human mind, nothing more. Therefore, objectively, I feel justified in believing they do not exist - although I obviously accept the possibility that one of more gods may exist, I find it unlikely enough (through human demonstration) to believe they are nothing more than pretty little feel-good comfort blanket ideas that make humans feel powerful and purposeful.



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14 Dec 2008, 8:34 pm

You're too selfish to believe in any kind of a god, Legato. That's what I think.



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15 Dec 2008, 1:34 am

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You're too selfish to believe in any kind of a god, Legato. That's what I think.


You know, I like you slowmutant - and the few conversations we have that are meaningful. But somehow you always end up just saying how I'm not this enough or I'm too much this, should I just be more like you?

Also, in case you didn't know, ad hominem attacks are a logical fallacy. Even if I was a demonic and malevolent babykiller, that wouldn't make me more or less right about the existence of gods.

Also, good luck in saying absolutely nothing and just making yourself feel better, but look like a total moron.

Having settled that - I don't believe in gods because there is no evidence nor reason for belief in gods. Give me a reason, give me evidence - and it cannot be in the form of emotion. If we were talking about anything else, this criteria would not be restrictive....at all.



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15 Dec 2008, 2:57 am

slowmutant wrote:
You're too selfish to believe in any kind of a god, Legato. That's what I think.

What does belief in gods have to do with whether you're selfish or not? And I must ask why would you bring that up even? Especially as you're the Christian one here who seems to blindly believe in your god because you think he'll grant you eternal life, and of course this is after you die (a bit ironic eh?). Of course wanting eternal life isn't a selfish desire at all right? But really, at least when an Atheist does something good, it's coming from their heart, not fears of hell fire and a petty omnipotent tyrant from above being unsatisfied with them.

And Legato I don't think slowmutant, just as many theists, are familiar with nor really care about whether their arguments contain logical fallacies or not. They just need something to say that makes themselves personally feel like they've made a point, even if it's complete utter none sense.



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15 Dec 2008, 8:06 am

z0rp wrote:
And Legato I don't think slowmutant, just as many theists, are familiar with nor really care about whether their arguments contain logical fallacies or not. They just need something to say that makes themselves personally feel like they've made a point, even if it's complete utter none sense.


Like I said before, belief in gods is all about desire, not reality. If a theist was concerned with reality, they would critically examine their beliefs and supposed "experiences" if any and inevitably conclude that the most likely outcome is not that there's some god-like being responsible for their delusion.



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30 May 2017, 2:54 pm

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I'm not really an atheist, but I subscribe to no religion because of the huge risks it has. I just detest religion and all the ways people willfully will use it to their own advantages.



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30 May 2017, 3:13 pm

I hope that that last word was a typo! Lol!

That you meant "fast", and not "fat ass"!



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30 May 2017, 3:54 pm

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I hope that that last word was a typo! Lol!

That you meant "fast", and not "fat ass"!


Nah, he can take his time.



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