Blood of patriots

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QFT.

notice this one was conveniently overlooked and not replied to? i'd like to see how he would argue past this point.

Weird but true: Even yelling "Godwin's Law!" gets old eventually.

Wow, lots of ignorant, racist fools ITT.

Islam is not inherently more violent than Christianity. To say so is to deny history.

No one is "native". I don't care how long your ancestors have lived there, no land belongs to any group of people, period.

I would readily like to get rid of Islam, but in conjunction with Judaism and Christianity. We should seek to end all religion.

Now that the rational person has said his piece, you can all go back to demonstrating your piss-poor humanity.

ones' religion is mostly a matter of where and to whom one was born.

Merle

Her use of a nazi analogy is appropriate. Ruveyn is demonising a section of the human population and calling for their extermination. This of course has many historical precedents, admittedly she could have referred the Turkish genocide of the Armenians, the Serbian actions in the 90's etc

It just happens that ruveyn is jewish so the analogy fits quite nicely

I'm frankly of the opinion at this point that no matter how apt the analogy seems, it should never be used. Ruveyn may have some *rather* questionable opinions on Muslims, but this should be addressed on its own terms. Using a Nazi comparison, even if it is the most perfect analogy on earth, is bad form at this point.

/debate police.

Agreed. Hezbollah frequently refers to the Israeli's as "Zionazi's" and displays caricatures of the Israeli flag with a swastika inscribed in the star of david and yet THEY themselves have been photographed and videotaped giving nazi salutes at their rallies!

-sigh- whatever ruveyn might think, i still have some amount of respect for his intellect and insight, even though he is rather bloodthirsty <.< (there's some such individuals a bit everywhere =.= ). I still reckon we should keep our eyes opened.

Can we get a ban for racism? At least a temp-ban, I don't want to read this drivel.

You (as an American), make me (as an American), look bad. To all worldly readers witnessing this xenophobic, arrogant, emotional outburst, understand that ruveyn does NOT represent anything that I stand for as an American. A true patriot understand the price of empire.

So we should ignore history? I do understand and agree the terms Nazi, Fascist, Genocide, Holocaust, etc are VERY over used. I do not agree that when the analogy IS appropriate that it should not be used, neither did Godwin

You are in fact abusing Godwin's law by invoking it to ridicule an analogy that was neither hyperbole or inappropriate. You are the one guilty of poor form

To be honest I am surprised that this post has been allowed to go on as long as it has. I would suggest that had it been anywhere else on this site it would have been locked. I have been concerned from the start that a new WP member or someone new to PPR would come across this and be deeply offended and hurt.

I do not want to see PPR censored any more than it is. I think it would be appropriate for to have a Possible Content Warning at the entrance to the forum, Although I doubt that this will happen. You can take this to the mods but most likely there will just be another clamp down

Wow, holy crap.

After the grilling I got for saying I'd rather have the war over there than here, this is a step beyond insane.

My simple statement that I'd rather an innocent Iraqi die than an innocent American* was considered grounds to attack my entire religion, call me evil, and state that I'm beyond hope according to the Book of Proverbs.

WHAT THE F***? I mean, you're all pretty smart, but this is beyond apes*** crazy!

*I maintain this is a logical point, since accidentally killing members of *both* sides of a war works against the perpetrator of the attack, not the war itself. Thus the fastest way to erode Iraqi (and Arab) support for the war was to get the terrorists on both sides of the fighting to kill indiscriminately.

@ZOD I am a bit confused by your last post on this subject.

By the way if it refers to a call for censorship, let me reiterate I am against censoring PPR and with that in mind I think it would be highly appropriate that anyone entering this part of WP get a warning that they may find some of the content offensive.

I'm against censorship when it applies to dynamic concepts, but that was just blatant hateful racism. I had read the TOS and there is specifically a clause for racism.

I admit that's difficult when it comes to politics, as I would see a lot of anti-immigration folk as walking the fence as far as racism is concerned. There is also the Palestine vs. Israel topic, also very virulent, with racism on both sides.

I wouldn't want this person not to be able to share their viewpoint, but I'm sure even they can admit that the content of their post is left intact without the racial slurs. Even if they think it is appropriate, they must know it turns most people off to their views.

I'm not a fan of censorship. I just find it (Bizarre? Weird? Hypocritical? not entirely sure of the word I need.)

I see all these posts about how crazy religion makes people, and I agree to a large part, but then here's one of the science-and-logic folks going even more nuts than we do, and in favor of slaughter, not discussions of eternal salvation and damnation.

I mean, we can get on the discussion of holy wars, but here's someone I was pretty sure was a science-and-logic guy advocating what can only be described as evil. Not even a "necessary evil", like war, but just pure f***in' genocide.

*That* is crazy. Not my belief in a benevolent force that created the universe, despite the absence of evidence. That's pretty logical compared to advocating the slaughter of every last member of a religion based on the actions of some members of it.

Actually, comparing the two, God seems *extremely* logical. I mean, my "crazy, unfounded" religion advocates forgiveness and love, and it was twisted to bring death. What I see here is *logic* itself twisted to justify pure evil.

It made my jaw hit the floor. I mean, just wow.