If a girl is raped and pregnant, should she keep the baby?

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01 Nov 2012, 10:10 pm

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Look at it this way. When a woman becomes a Christian she marries Jesus. If she gets married to someone else here on earth she is an adulterer and will go to hell according to conservative logic.


You must be unbelievably insulated from religious conservatives. I've met some seedy types but none of them have this crazy set of beliefs you describe.

Take your four walls, build in a door, open it, step outside and get firsthand knowledge.


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02 Nov 2012, 7:55 am

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Conservatives generally don't consider it sinful for a widow to remarry (provided said widow didn't murder their previous spouse).


Of course. As long as it is a "conservative", then said "conservative" may do as he wishes. Newt Gingrich, for example. He can enjoy fellatio from any wench he chooses, and switch wives in favor of whoever gives him the greatest satisfaction. No "conservative" is going to think any less of him.



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02 Nov 2012, 8:29 am

I should 'have the kid' if someone rapes me? Um, no. I didn't sign up to have a kid, and if you want to see me have that kid you're going to have to re-implant it into my dead, cold body after fighting me to the f*****g death.


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02 Nov 2012, 8:32 am

Inuyasha wrote:
Conservatives generally don't consider it sinful for a widow to remarry (provided said widow didn't murder their previous spouse).



Correct. However there are some religious sects for which not only is divorce a sin, but remarriage after the death of a spouse is also regarded as immoral.



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02 Nov 2012, 8:42 am

If it were up to conservatives women would be silent in the church.



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02 Nov 2012, 9:47 am

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If a woman elects to have an abortion, then the rapist is responsible and should face the same judicial proceedings as a murderer.


So you'd rather that a rapist murder his victim when he'd finished then? Or made sure to use protection in his assault?



I vote for the latter. However, this might encourage the former. I say that a rape victim who gets knocked up really should get an abortion. Even if you believe in a soul, then surely the soul destined for the now aborted fetus will find another body.

The question strongly resembles a straw man, so I'm afraid that isn't something I can answer either way. Neither question really has anything to do with what I said, and I certainly didn't suggest either. It's that kind of rhetoric that discourages rational discussion on this topic.

I have a better solution, however. How about men just not rape anyone? If a guy doesn't rape a girl or woman, he doesn't have to worry about his victim feeling violated (which he probably doesn't worry about anyway), he doesn't break any laws, doesn't have to worry about hiding from the law if he gets reported, doesn't have to worry about using a condom or killing anyone (the victim or a possible child).

There is an alternative, though I don't seriously think it's right or that people would actually agree to it, and that is just simple decriminalize rape. My reasoning for this is that western society is already sexually permissive--NFD's permit married couples to cheat on each other and give themselves an easy way out by settling, getting exactly what they want out of a divorce, and the subject of adultery doesn't HAVE to come up unless the cheater decides to be difficult. Former laws concerning acceptable sexual relations have either been reversed or simply ignored and remain unenforced. So why do we even still have behaviors like pedophilia, statutory rape, and other sex crimes? If it's ok in western society to just have sex with whoever you want, then there really is no such thing as a "sex crime." At worst, something like date rape is more an annoyance than it is psychologically scarring, and it could be that our outrage at sexual violation at any age or stage of development is merely the product of conditioning. The way rape should be handled would not be like a sex crime, but as misdemeanor assault or as felony assault depending on the severity of the crime (causing physical trauma as opposed to, say, seduction). I think it is wise to begin hormonal bc as early as is appropriate barring medical risks as a preventative measure just to be prepared for a worst-case scenario.

If, of course, rape should NOT be decriminalized, I'm curious as to why that should be.



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02 Nov 2012, 12:14 pm

mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
I should 'have the kid' if someone rapes me? Um, no. I didn't sign up to have a kid, and if you want to see me have that kid you're going to have to re-implant it into my dead, cold body after fighting me to the f***ing death.


A fight to the death: Inuyasha versus MechanicalGirl39.

Inuyasha violently trying to place the fetus back into MechanicalGirl39's womb.

MechanicalGirl39, keeping a penny firmly locked between her knees, while desperately seeking to keep her vagina as dry and inhospitable as possible.

This should be better than Professional Wrestling.



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02 Nov 2012, 1:13 pm

The majority of children are ugly, horrible parasites, and I am more than supportive for people who want abortions, for any reason.


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02 Nov 2012, 1:22 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
I should 'have the kid' if someone rapes me? Um, no. I didn't sign up to have a kid, and if you want to see me have that kid you're going to have to re-implant it into my dead, cold body after fighting me to the f***ing death.


A fight to the death: Inuyasha versus MechanicalGirl39.

Inuyasha violently trying to place the fetus back into MechanicalGirl39's womb.

MechanicalGirl39, keeping a penny firmly locked between her knees, while desperately seeking to keep her vagina as dry and inhospitable as possible.

This should be better than Professional Wrestling.


*eagerly takes bag of popcorn from the microwave and fills up a bowl*



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02 Nov 2012, 2:21 pm

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The majority of children are ugly, horrible parasites, and I am more than supportive for people who want abortions, for any reason.


Your own mother included? You know, you could always make that retrospective for yourself if you're as misanthropic as you seem.



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02 Nov 2012, 2:29 pm

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The majority of children are ugly, horrible parasites, and I am more than supportive for people who want abortions, for any reason.


I wish your parents would have had the same view.


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02 Nov 2012, 2:36 pm

I don't think it should be up to me, it should be up to the person that happens to. Seems like a rather personal choice.


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02 Nov 2012, 4:26 pm

mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
I should 'have the kid' if someone rapes me? Um, no. I didn't sign up to have a kid, and if you want to see me have that kid you're going to have to re-implant it into my dead, cold body after fighting me to the f***ing death.

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02 Nov 2012, 4:28 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
I should 'have the kid' if someone rapes me? Um, no. I didn't sign up to have a kid, and if you want to see me have that kid you're going to have to re-implant it into my dead, cold body after fighting me to the f***ing death.


A fight to the death: Inuyasha versus MechanicalGirl39.

Inuyasha violently trying to place the fetus back into MechanicalGirl39's womb.

MechanicalGirl39, keeping a penny firmly locked between her knees, while desperately seeking to keep her vagina as dry and inhospitable as possible.

This should be better than Professional Wrestling.
dude, you really need to w*k off and keep it to yourself, ok?



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02 Nov 2012, 4:44 pm

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dude, you really need to w*k off and keep it to yourself, ok?


Mission Accomplished!

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02 Nov 2012, 5:19 pm

By the by, I should think that compelling a woman to gestate a baby against her will would be tantamount to rape.