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27 Feb 2017, 1:45 pm

No wonder our friends on the Left are here every day, posting so consistently. :D

Obamascare: 60% of online Obamacare defenders 'paid to post' hits on critics

A majority of online and social media defenders of Obamacare are professionals who are "paid to post," according to a digital expert.

"Sixty percent of all the posts were made from 100 profiles, posting between the hours of 9 and 5 Pacific Time," said Michael Brown. "They were paid to post."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/obama ... le/2615774

(BTW, my February check from the Koch Brothers Foundation hasn't arrived yet. I'm sure it's just been delayed in the mail, but my yacht needs a new coat of paint for spring, so I'd appreciate it if the brothers could speed things up a bit. Many thanks.) :mrgreen:


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27 Feb 2017, 1:50 pm

Darmok wrote:
No wonder our friends on the Left are here every day, posting so consistently. :D

Obamascare: 60% of online Obamacare defenders 'paid to post' hits on critics

A majority of online and social media defenders of Obamacare are professionals who are "paid to post," according to a digital expert.

"Sixty percent of all the posts were made from 100 profiles, posting between the hours of 9 and 5 Pacific Time," said Michael Brown. "They were paid to post."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/obama ... le/2615774

(BTW, my February check from the Koch Brothers Foundation hasn't arrived yet. I'm sure it's just been delayed in the mail, but my yacht needs a new coat of paint for spring, so I'd appreciate it if the brothers could speed things up a bit. Many thanks.) :mrgreen:



Oh, yeah, we libs here on WP are actually paid provocateurs rather than real Aspies. :twisted:


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27 Feb 2017, 1:51 pm

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...abortion is undoubtedly used as birth control by some in this country and it's absolutely disgusting.

Not as disgusting as bringing an unwanted child into the world.


Yep all unwanted people should be terminated. Better for them, better for society.



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27 Feb 2017, 1:52 pm

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Oh, yeah, we libs here on WP are actually paid provocateurs rather than real Aspies. :twisted:


Ha I knew it. Kraftie owes me five bucks :P



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27 Feb 2017, 2:01 pm

So where is my fat ass check?They are almost finished installing the pool and fountain.I need to finish paying the workers.Seems like they could get these mailed out in time.Its hard work being a provocateur.Thirsty work also,thankfully they sent me a case of Dom.


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27 Feb 2017, 2:15 pm

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So where is my fat ass check?They are almost finished installing the pool and fountain.I need to finish paying the workers.Seems like they could get these mailed out in time.Its hard work being a provocateur.Thirsty work also,thankfully they sent me a case of Dom.

The Party is investigating reports that you have not been paying your pool workers the mandated $15/hr for their contributed labor. If you are found guilty, you will be sent to Chappaqua for re-education, and your pool will be reassigned to another Party member. If you are found innocent, your checks will resume within 8-12 months, once we have deducted the cost of the investigation.


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27 Feb 2017, 3:45 pm

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It seems arrogant to me that people would assume they can judge better than the woman if her baby should be born. And then there's the issue of the harm caused to the mother by the pregnancy and birth. She should not have to go through this if she doesn't want to. It's her body.
Aren't there enough people on this planet already for Heaven's sake?


What's arrogant is for someone to think they have the right to choose whether someone else gets to live or not.


I would like to point out that other people choosing whether or not someone else gets to live or not happens on a regular basis in multiple areas of society. My father's best friend had leukemia. Doctor's felt fairly confident that a bone marrow transplant would be successful in him, but someone at his health insurance company decided that they would deny him a bone marrow transplant on the basis that it was "experimental", and he died as a result of the leukemia.

Any time a country takes military action against another country, as ours does frequently, there is a decision made, that some people, including civilians, will die. They call this death of civilians "collateral damage" or "casualties". What's casual about an innocent person having a bomb dropped on them, I don't know, but that is exactly what happens. It's nice to think that it's not intentional when it happens, but that is not usually the case. Someone has sat there in a war room and decided that killing a few enemies is worth taking a few civilian lives.

You might argue that such things are sometimes necessary, though unfortunate, and I would agree.

What I don't agree with is the idea is that a zygote or blastocyst is a person. These are stages in human development that have the potential to become a person. When does personhood start? That's a debate without a conclusion but to start, I think the brain should be fully differentiated.


This is why I don't usually involve myself in abortion threads here - not anymore. I can't handle the way the other side presents their case. It makes me physically ill listening to the way things are explained. No feelings, no empathy for the baby, however, everyone is supposed to feel so much empathy for the women themselves who to me seem like classic narcissists - what's in it for them. They don't want anything "happening" to their bodies when women's bodies were made to have babies and the fact that they know best if someone else should be able to live because "some people's lives just aren't worth living". I think it's the women that don't want their own life upset with a baby when it is their fault that they are pregnant in the first place (and I'm not talking about rapes and incest so don't even go there.) How is this line of thinking any different from the gas chambers for Christ's sake?!


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27 Feb 2017, 3:49 pm

Overall I'm pretty bummed about the inability on the majority's part to accept mortality as a whole. Dropping battalions of pawns from ill-engineered convertible helicopters isn't exactly pro-life either.


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27 Feb 2017, 3:51 pm

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Protection from a bad life experience. Having a life is not necessarily a good thing. This is what I mean by arrogance. Pro-lifers think that because they enjoy their lives, everyone will. It's just not the case. There are some lives that are not worth living.


In your opinion. I'll just say this, that the way you think, gives me the creeps. To me, this line of thinking is the same as how a sociopath or a psychopath would see the situation.

Thank you for sharing.
Pro-lifers assume that life is de facto good. It's not the case. Some lives are so unpleasant as to be not worth living. If a woman doesn't think her child's life is worth it, it's her call, not the state's.


It may be the woman's call, but it will soon be the government's call on not having to pay for it. Hopefully Trump will do something about that too.


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27 Feb 2017, 4:18 pm

That contravenes the Hippocratic oath. Everyone knows financial collections can be harmful & that certainly doesn't apply to all cases either. Chances are if you expect something do be done by professionals, subsidies will be involved. If you're actually pro-life don't advocate against the survival chances of two people.


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27 Feb 2017, 4:22 pm

"Vacutainers?!?! WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' VACUTAINERS!!"


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27 Feb 2017, 4:32 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Oh, yeah, we libs here on WP are actually paid provocateurs rather than real Aspies. :twisted:

One WP user, a former Democrat Party worker admitted he only posted here to "make people think" about pro-left wing agenda articles, and not to discuss.

Another user, a pro-Clinton supporter, that bombarded the news forum last year with anti-Trump articles, stated he owned a "political research company" and has since disappeared.

Then we had that user that only posted "Melina is a mail-order bride" stories.



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27 Feb 2017, 4:39 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Oh, yeah, we libs here on WP are actually paid provocateurs rather than real Aspies. :twisted:

One WP user, a former Democrat Party worker admitted he only posted here to "make people think" about pro-left wing agenda articles, and not to discuss.

Another user, a pro-Clinton supporter, that bombarded the news forum last year with anti-Trump articles, stated he owned a "political research company" and has since disappeared.

Then we had that user that only posted "Melina is a mail-order bride" stories.


Is that the person who said "my staff?" because I think I remember that exchange.



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Is that the person who said "my staff?" because I think I remember that exchange.

yes.



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27 Feb 2017, 4:58 pm

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It seems arrogant to me that people would assume they can judge better than the woman if her baby should be born. And then there's the issue of the harm caused to the mother by the pregnancy and birth. She should not have to go through this if she doesn't want to. It's her body.
Aren't there enough people on this planet already for Heaven's sake?


What's arrogant is for someone to think they have the right to choose whether someone else gets to live or not.


I would like to point out that other people choosing whether or not someone else gets to live or not happens on a regular basis in multiple areas of society. My father's best friend had leukemia. Doctor's felt fairly confident that a bone marrow transplant would be successful in him, but someone at his health insurance company decided that they would deny him a bone marrow transplant on the basis that it was "experimental", and he died as a result of the leukemia.

Any time a country takes military action against another country, as ours does frequently, there is a decision made, that some people, including civilians, will die. They call this death of civilians "collateral damage" or "casualties". What's casual about an innocent person having a bomb dropped on them, I don't know, but that is exactly what happens. It's nice to think that it's not intentional when it happens, but that is not usually the case. Someone has sat there in a war room and decided that killing a few enemies is worth taking a few civilian lives.

You might argue that such things are sometimes necessary, though unfortunate, and I would agree.

What I don't agree with is the idea is that a zygote or blastocyst is a person. These are stages in human development that have the potential to become a person. When does personhood start? That's a debate without a conclusion but to start, I think the brain should be fully differentiated.


This is why I don't usually involve myself in abortion threads here - not anymore. I can't handle the way the other side presents their case. It makes me physically ill listening to the way things are explained. No feelings, no empathy for the baby, however, everyone is supposed to feel so much empathy for the women themselves who to me seem like classic narcissists - what's in it for them. They don't want anything "happening" to their bodies when women's bodies were made to have babies and the fact that they know best if someone else should be able to live because "some people's lives just aren't worth living". I think it's the women that don't want their own life upset with a baby when it is their fault that they are pregnant in the first place (and I'm not talking about rapes and incest so don't even go there.) How is this line of thinking any different from the gas chambers for Christ's sake?!


Yes, the unborn should be afforded protection. As a father, I never doubted that my little girl was already a living, breathing human being even while inside my wife. That said, I see just as much callousness from conservatives when it comes to refusing care to poor and infirmed children after birth.


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27 Feb 2017, 5:01 pm

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Is that the person who said "my staff?" because I think I remember that exchange.

yes.


Yeah that was pretty funny. He was obviously speaking hypothetically and you jumped all over it. He was saying what he would do if he ran a polling company. I'd post a link but I'm posting from my phone and the search feature kind of sucks.

Do you remember who you were speaking to? It would make it easier to find.