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15 Jan 2012, 6:56 am

you_are_what_you_is wrote:

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bestiality

There's something about some specific areas of bestiality that are intriguing in that sort of WTF sort of a way. Like a pretty lady drinking masses of horse urine for example. It's just so sick and perverted that it raises a smile.

Most of it just makes me want to retch though.

It makes me want to retch, too. That's nowhere near enough a good reason to make it illegal, though.

What about the distress it might cause animals? I mean, animals probably wouldn't care as much as people since they likely lack our sense of prudity, but I'm sure it would be at least somewhat distressing to them to be used sexually.

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15 Jan 2012, 6:59 am

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Doesn't result in a child? If incest is made legal unless you sterilize the people involved then some are bound to result in children being born.

If a child is conceived as a result of inbreeding, then there's really nothing we can do about it. We can't force the mother to have an abortion because that would violate her free will, nor can we kill the child once it's born because that would be inhumane. But if we're going to criminalize incest for no other reason than that it might result in a child with genetic defects, then the next logical step would be to criminalize two people both with some sort of mental disorder from reproducing.

That's a very good point. Personally, I find incest gross, but I don't think people who engage in it are evil. I actually was opposed to legalizing it because of the birth defect issue, but you make a perfect point. I mean, you're right, like, if I married an Aspergers woman, they would have just as much reason to force us to abort or sterilize as they would a child of incest. In other words, no reason at all.

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15 Jan 2012, 7:00 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Throwing out the government and replacing it with turtles.

This made me LOL.

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15 Jan 2012, 7:03 am

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I have read that the entire concept of "justice system" was invented in societies around the world mainly because it is impossible for people to live together in a society if there is not at least some hope of justice for murder victims. The concept of "justice system" was invented by all societies to stop the cycle of retribution murder that happens whenever murderers aren't held accountable. There have always been people high up enough in the social hierarchy that this didn't apply to them. But it needs to exist for at least the majority of the population in order for a society to survive. Even the pretty well connected Marquis de Sade did jail time for the violence that became his namesake.

That actually makes perfect sense. I've always seen justice as being just regulated revenge, rather than really being a way of preventing crime.

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15 Jan 2012, 7:07 am

As for my radical idea - I actually support a breakup of the United States. Only if it was done completely peacefully though.

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15 Jan 2012, 10:20 am

donnie_darko wrote:

What about the distress it might cause animals?

Bestiality is legal in Denmark but only if it doesn't cause severe harm or distress to the animals. I personally think it's a bit vile.

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15 Jan 2012, 10:25 am

donnie_darko wrote:

you_are_what_you_is wrote:

It makes me want to retch, too. That's nowhere near enough a good reason to make it illegal, though.

Some sexual acts are likely to cause pain and distress, and I'm fine with those being outlawed. But some are okay. I see no reason why, for example, letting a dog penetrate you would be at all objectionable for the dog.

Bear in mind, by the way, that plenty of people who are opposed to bestiality because they're worried about it causing pain/distress have no qualms about supporting the incredible cruelties of the current meat industry.

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15 Jan 2012, 10:34 am

you_are_what_you_is wrote:

I see no reason why, for example, letting a dog penetrate you would be at all objectionable for the dog.

It does hurt it though as its penis 'knots' and causes it pain.

Although the BBFC would agree with you when The Good Old Naughty Days was passed 'R18' uncut for cinema in 2003 which included involving a dog and nuns. Though it is debatable whether that scene would be allowed on video at 'R18' today.

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15 Jan 2012, 11:31 am

-Absolute minimal regulation on guns. No restrictions on barrel length, types of guns, magazine capacity, ammunition, or buttstocks whatsoever. That's right, you could get a Mac 11 with a 50 round drum, a .50 calibre sniper rifle, or a Derringer. No gun registry and no separate licences either. Once you get a gun licence, you could carry, transport, and have access to any type of guns without any stupid classifications or unnecessary fees. The only regulations I would support is that you'd have to be 18 and over, get a mental screening, go through extensive training, and not have a serious crime on your record in order to qualify for a licence.

-Negative income taxes along with flat taxes. It would be a great way to shrink the welfare state and make it more streamlined and efficient.

-A Castle Doctrine like they have in the states which applies to your home, car, and place of business.

-Let the workers elect the board of directors within corporations. I think the top-down structure is highly flawed and this would be a step to making it more of a bottom-up structure. A structure is only as strong as its foundation. The reduced accountability of this structure isn't a problem since individual accountability is inherently hard to attribute to individuals within a big organization anyways.

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15 Jan 2012, 11:42 am

AceOfSpades wrote:

Can I buy a rocket launcher? Cool!

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15 Jan 2012, 11:45 am

Tequila wrote:

Can I buy a rocket launcher? Cool!

I want my very own one kilo-ton tac nuke.

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15 Jan 2012, 12:05 pm

Tequila wrote:

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Can I buy a rocket launcher? Cool!

It wouldn't be the most practical option for home invasions if you're hiding in the bedroom with your family ready to blow up the intruder trying to get in. Besides the explosion, the backblast would be a bit of the problem for your family. Then again, you could do it with an M203 attached to an M16 and make him say hello to your little friend. Not only would the intruder be blown away by the grenade, he would also be blown away by the style you pulled it off with.

lol seriously though, explosives are a no-no. Bullets are meant to kill people and explosives are meant to destroy things that bullets can't so that makes it overkill.

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15 Jan 2012, 12:08 pm

I want a Blackhawk attack gunship. It's still a gun, I swear. It just has a helicopter attached to it.

I remember Chris Rock making a surprisingly sound idea about gun control - we shouldn't have gun control, we should have bullet control. Saturday night special snub-nosed 6-shooters can still go for $100 a piece, but the bullets should cost $5000 a pop.

The high cost of ammunition should also radically improve your marksmanship.

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15 Jan 2012, 12:47 pm

Tequila wrote:

you_are_what_you_is wrote:

I see no reason why, for example, letting a dog penetrate you would be at all objectionable for the dog.

It does hurt it though as its penis 'knots' and causes it pain.

It does? Well, it might be arguable that that should be illegal. I'm sure you get the point, though - not every sexual with an animal is going to be a problem for it.

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15 Jan 2012, 11:41 pm

you_are_what_you_is wrote:

It does? Well, it might be arguable that that should be illegal.

Yup, I get your point. Not all sexual acts should be criminalised but those will mostly be ones that don't require intercourse.

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16 Jan 2012, 7:28 am

How did we end up talking about dog penises?

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