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ikorack
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05 Nov 2010, 1:34 pm

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The act not buying health insurance is choosing not to participate in commerce. The act of buying food is choosing to engage in commerce. The act of buying a car is choosing to engage in commerce. You can't legislate someone has to do something using the commerce clause when that person isn't engaging in commerce.


See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn.

The Interstate Commerce Clause as it is now interpreted is no guarantee of our liberty.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn

the period ruins your link



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05 Nov 2010, 1:42 pm

ikorack wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
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The act not buying health insurance is choosing not to participate in commerce. The act of buying food is choosing to engage in commerce. The act of buying a car is choosing to engage in commerce. You can't legislate someone has to do something using the commerce clause when that person isn't engaging in commerce.


See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn.

The Interstate Commerce Clause as it is now interpreted is no guarantee of our liberty.

ruveyn


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn

the period ruins your link


Periods ruin a lot of good things.


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05 Nov 2010, 3:11 pm

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i am horribly uninformed about this. this is embarrassing. i can be pretty arrogant about the areas where i am well-informed... and this is not one of those areas. i can admit when i am ignorant of an issue.

i understand the basics of american politics, but this Tea Party stuff has thrown me for a loop.

i am a canadian. i don't read the newspaper, nor do i watch television news. the closest thing i read to the news is consumerist.com for their consumer stories.

i tried asking my husband about the Tea Party, and he explained it to me somewhat. but he only half-watches the news himself.

anyway. i'm lazy. anybody care to explain some of the background, or why there are such strong opinions about this Tea Party? thank you in advance.

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They're a bunch of reactionaries who blame all of the deficit on Obama's social spending (The war is seldom considered a cause), on immigrants, on Islam, on moral degradation. They like to compare Obama to a Nazi, communist, etc. I think its sick, that it undermines the holocaust, and when they say"liberals did it with bush", I don't remember anyone from the mainstream, liberal media doing it. They do it all the time on Fox News though. Many think he was a secret Muslim and that he wasn't born in this country. You can't argue with them. Like I said, they're reactionaries, and I believe there's a lot of racism behind it.


Plenty of people compared Bush to Hitler and the rise of Nazi Germany, going so far to call 9/11 a false flag like the Reichstag fire during his term... I didn't consider it a fair comparison then, nor do I consider it a fair comparison to Obama today. It's just childish name calling and false connections.


Yah, but like I said, and let me reiterate, some wack jobs saying that on the internet isn't the same as someone saying it on Fox News. Besides, not everyone who made the reichstag fire comparisons and the conspiracy theories of 911 being an inside job were liberal either. A lot of that came from right wing, libertine types.