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04 Jan 2011, 6:29 pm

Your notions of "liberal" and "conservative" are comical. I won't even bother addressing them.


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04 Jan 2011, 6:35 pm

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Quite frankly I couldn't care less what you think about me. But don't come crying to me when stuff happens that I warned them about.


You're largely missing my point; it's not your ideology I'm objecting to but the way in which you present it. There have been times when I've agreed with something you've said, but you've so completely destroyed your credibility as a poster here that defending you would be embarrassing. I've got my own ways of fighting the creeping encroachment of big government, and they don't involve endlessly parroting political entertainers either.


Thing is I haven't been parroting anything, if the "political entertainer" is saying something that the facts I have found through research match up, I'm gonna agree with that individual. Thing is Dox47, I think I have given a fairly good case as to the fact Fox News is a legitimate source. No matter how you slice it, people consider Fox News to be the most credible news media outlet.

So what. Only conservatives find Glenn Beck credible.



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04 Jan 2011, 6:36 pm

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Your notions of "liberal" and "conservative" are comical. I won't even bother addressing them.


:roll:

What, you're telling me that liberals aren't for gun-control, aren't pro-union, are not for big government, etc.?



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05 Jan 2011, 12:56 am

Pro-union is pro-middle class. Anti-union is anti-middle class. If the Right say they're against the middle class they're welcome to say so, and they do again and again and again. My question is why middle class people would vote for such enemies.



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05 Jan 2011, 8:59 am

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Pro-union is pro-middle class. Anti-union is anti-middle class. If the Right say they're against the middle class they're welcome to say so, and they do again and again and again. My question is why middle class people would vote for such enemies.


Middle class? Like the Teamsters or the Long Shoremen, run by gangster thugs.

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05 Jan 2011, 1:50 pm

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You seriously, underestimate the intelligence of the American People. Quite frankly, just because one is an intellectual, doesn't mean they can't also be an idiot when it comes to common sense and critical thinking.


Irony, thy name is Inuyasha.

At least I cannot be accused of underestimating your intelligence.


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05 Jan 2011, 1:54 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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Pro-union is pro-middle class. Anti-union is anti-middle class. If the Right say they're against the middle class they're welcome to say so, and they do again and again and again. My question is why middle class people would vote for such enemies.


Middle class? Like the Teamsters or the Long Shoremen, run by gangster thugs.

This is hardly an indictment against the right of workers to unionize. If unions are involved in illegal or criminal activities they will face the legal consequences like any other individual, company, or political action group would. You are not aware of the widespread illegal and criminal activities that were in the not too distant past employed by industry to break unions and violate workers rights? To oppose unions is not in the true libertarian spirit, its simply a cynical form of class warfare against the working class.



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05 Jan 2011, 3:44 pm

marshall wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
xenon13 wrote:
Pro-union is pro-middle class. Anti-union is anti-middle class. If the Right say they're against the middle class they're welcome to say so, and they do again and again and again. My question is why middle class people would vote for such enemies.


Middle class? Like the Teamsters or the Long Shoremen, run by gangster thugs.

This is hardly an indictment against the right of workers to unionize. If unions are involved in illegal or criminal activities they will face the legal consequences like any other individual, company, or political action group would. You are not aware of the widespread illegal and criminal activities that were in the not too distant past employed by industry to break unions and violate workers rights? To oppose unions is not in the true libertarian spirit, its simply a cynical form of class warfare against the working class.


I do not oppose Unions. If knuckle dragging Proles want to organize, then let them. If I were running a business the first sign of Union membership and I would fire them off the job. Unfortunately that is against the Wagner Act.

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05 Jan 2011, 3:59 pm

ruveyn wrote:
I do not oppose Unions. If knuckle dragging Proles want to organize, then let them. If I were running a business the first sign of Union membership and I would fire them off the job. Unfortunately that is against the Wagner Act.

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If you support Corporations (a collective organization for entrepreneurs and investors to pool their resources and act together toward their shared interests) then you must also support unions (a collective organization for workers and laborers to poll their resources and act together toward their shared interests). Supporting either of these organizational structures while opposing the other is class warfare. Opposing both is a Luddite attack upon the modern economy.


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05 Jan 2011, 5:35 pm

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You seriously, underestimate the intelligence of the American People. Quite frankly, just because one is an intellectual, doesn't mean they can't also be an idiot when it comes to common sense and critical thinking.


Irony, thy name is Inuyasha.

At least I cannot be accused of underestimating your intelligence.


You just did... :lol:



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05 Jan 2011, 6:27 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
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Irony, thy name is Inuyasha.

At least I cannot be accused of underestimating your intelligence.


You just did... :lol:


Translation for the irony impaired:

Inuyasha, it is not possible to underestimate your intelligence.


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05 Jan 2011, 8:11 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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ruveyn wrote:
xenon13 wrote:
Pro-union is pro-middle class. Anti-union is anti-middle class. If the Right say they're against the middle class they're welcome to say so, and they do again and again and again. My question is why middle class people would vote for such enemies.


Middle class? Like the Teamsters or the Long Shoremen, run by gangster thugs.

This is hardly an indictment against the right of workers to unionize. If unions are involved in illegal or criminal activities they will face the legal consequences like any other individual, company, or political action group would. You are not aware of the widespread illegal and criminal activities that were in the not too distant past employed by industry to break unions and violate workers rights? To oppose unions is not in the true libertarian spirit, its simply a cynical form of class warfare against the working class.


I do not oppose Unions. If knuckle dragging Proles want to organize, then let them. If I were running a business the first sign of Union membership and I would fire them off the job. Unfortunately that is against the Wagner Act.

Even if that would mean the end of your business because none of the grubby "Proles" will work for you. Now your left with no choice but to join the Proles yourself. Or since you think you are above working with "Proles" that you can go off by yourself and dig through the dumpsters for meals.



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05 Jan 2011, 10:01 pm

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Even if that would mean the end of your business because none of the grubby "Proles" will work for you. Now your left with no choice but to join the Proles yourself. Or since you think you are above working with "Proles" that you can go off by yourself and dig through the dumpsters for meals.


Nonsense. There have always been enough scabs.

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05 Jan 2011, 10:32 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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Even if that would mean the end of your business because none of the grubby "Proles" will work for you. Now your left with no choice but to join the Proles yourself. Or since you think you are above working with "Proles" that you can go off by yourself and dig through the dumpsters for meals.


Nonsense. There have always been enough scabs.

Not for you. You'd have to beg the illegals to work for you.



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06 Jan 2011, 1:22 am

visagrunt wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
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Irony, thy name is Inuyasha.

At least I cannot be accused of underestimating your intelligence.


You just did... :lol:


Translation for the irony impaired:

Inuyasha, it is not possible to underestimate your intelligence.


:roll:

Just keep telling yourself, I'm sorry your you can't handle the fact you're living in na na land.



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06 Jan 2011, 12:33 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
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Just keep telling yourself, I'm sorry your you can't handle the fact you're living in na na land.


'nuf said.


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