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which do you think is the better system/ which do you think should be in place?
socialism 32%  32%  [ 18 ]
capitalism 18%  18%  [ 10 ]
anarchism 30%  30%  [ 17 ]
other 20%  20%  [ 11 ]
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08 Nov 2011, 5:24 pm

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You can buy anything you want under Capitalism as long as you have enough money.


Exactly, brilliant, it is :P


If you happen to be on the losing end of capitalism, then you're not going to buy much.

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08 Nov 2011, 5:29 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
You can buy anything you want under Capitalism as long as you have enough money.


Exactly, brilliant, it is :P


If you happen to be on the losing end of capitalism, then you're not going to buy much.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Lucky I'm not on the losing side then, isn't it?

Besides, it's not like you're stuck forever if you are.

Meh, I'm an Aspie, I don't do empathy.



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08 Nov 2011, 5:43 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
You can buy anything you want under Capitalism as long as you have enough money.


Exactly, brilliant, it is :P


If you happen to be on the losing end of capitalism, then you're not going to buy much.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Lucky I'm not on the losing side then, isn't it?

Besides, it's not like you're stuck forever if you are.

Meh, I'm an Aspie, I don't do empathy.


Yes, it can a permanent situation.
By the way, lack of empathy for those with means but no heart isn't restricted to those of us with Asperger's.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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08 Nov 2011, 5:47 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
You can buy anything you want under Capitalism as long as you have enough money.


Exactly, brilliant, it is :P


If you happen to be on the losing end of capitalism, then you're not going to buy much.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Lucky I'm not on the losing side then, isn't it?

Besides, it's not like you're stuck forever if you are.

Meh, I'm an Aspie, I don't do empathy.


Yes, it can a permanent situation.
By the way, lack of empathy for those with means but no heart isn't restricted to those of us with Asperger's.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


If you've got no money, you can get a job. If the economy is too bad for you to do so, you can get one in a few years, and you can retrain to help this happen. And Alan Sugar was poor when he started his first business, and he failed school, as was the case with many other successful entrepreneurs, too.

It's never actually permanent.



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08 Nov 2011, 6:19 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
You can buy anything you want under Capitalism as long as you have enough money.


Exactly, brilliant, it is :P


If you happen to be on the losing end of capitalism, then you're not going to buy much.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Lucky I'm not on the losing side then, isn't it?

Besides, it's not like you're stuck forever if you are.

Meh, I'm an Aspie, I don't do empathy.


Yes, it can a permanent situation.
By the way, lack of empathy for those with means but no heart isn't restricted to those of us with Asperger's.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


If you've got no money, you can get a job. If the economy is too bad for you to do so, you can get one in a few years, and you can retrain to help this happen. And Alan Sugar was poor when he started his first business, and he failed school, as was the case with many other successful entrepreneurs, too.

It's never actually permanent.


My Dad had worked his ass off every day of his life before retiring, and he never got rich. Then there are people who work and work, but can never get ahead.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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08 Nov 2011, 6:22 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
You can buy anything you want under Capitalism as long as you have enough money.


Exactly, brilliant, it is :P


If you happen to be on the losing end of capitalism, then you're not going to buy much.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Lucky I'm not on the losing side then, isn't it?

Besides, it's not like you're stuck forever if you are.

Meh, I'm an Aspie, I don't do empathy.


I doubt both of the bolded statements.
the second because what you are describing is Antisocial personality disorder

one of the indicators is
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Callous unconcern for the feelings of others and lack of the capacity for empathy.


the aspie DSM
has
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(4) lack of social or emotional reciprocity


aspies are necessarily callous and unfeeling bastards.


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08 Nov 2011, 6:42 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
You can buy anything you want under Capitalism as long as you have enough money.


Exactly, brilliant, it is :P


If you happen to be on the losing end of capitalism, then you're not going to buy much.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Lucky I'm not on the losing side then, isn't it?

Besides, it's not like you're stuck forever if you are.

Meh, I'm an Aspie, I don't do empathy.


Yes, it can a permanent situation.
By the way, lack of empathy for those with means but no heart isn't restricted to those of us with Asperger's.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


If you've got no money, you can get a job. If the economy is too bad for you to do so, you can get one in a few years, and you can retrain to help this happen. And Alan Sugar was poor when he started his first business, and he failed school, as was the case with many other successful entrepreneurs, too.

It's never actually permanent.


My Dad had worked his ass off every day of his life before retiring, and he never got rich. Then there are people who work and work, but can never get ahead.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


They won't be the "losing end" if they're making a living wage at least, and whether or not you make significant money obviously depends on what it is you're working hard on.



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08 Nov 2011, 6:50 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
You can buy anything you want under Capitalism as long as you have enough money.


Exactly, brilliant, it is :P


If you happen to be on the losing end of capitalism, then you're not going to buy much.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Lucky I'm not on the losing side then, isn't it?

Besides, it's not like you're stuck forever if you are.

Meh, I'm an Aspie, I don't do empathy.


Yes, it can a permanent situation.
By the way, lack of empathy for those with means but no heart isn't restricted to those of us with Asperger's.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


If you've got no money, you can get a job. If the economy is too bad for you to do so, you can get one in a few years, and you can retrain to help this happen. And Alan Sugar was poor when he started his first business, and he failed school, as was the case with many other successful entrepreneurs, too.

It's never actually permanent.


My Dad had worked his ass off every day of his life before retiring, and he never got rich. Then there are people who work and work, but can never get ahead.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


They won't be the "losing end" if they're making a living wage at least, and whether or not you make significant money obviously depends on what it is you're working hard on.


I was more than lucky enough for my Dad to allow us a middle class lifestyle, and a house to boot. But there are more than enough people who are barely earning a living wage, and that allows one to survive, but hardly to really live.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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08 Nov 2011, 6:51 pm

The flexibility of capitalism allows these people to retrain and try earning a better living in a different profession if they so wish.



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08 Nov 2011, 6:59 pm

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The flexibility of capitalism allows these people to retrain and try earning a better living in a different profession if they so wish.


Workers hardly have it bad in more socialistic economies, such as in Germany, Sweden, the Netherlands, etc. They make a good wage, have incredible benefits, don't have to worry about the boss cracking down on their rights, and live in free societies. Best of all, no one is supposed to be left behind. Pretty good deal, I think.

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08 Nov 2011, 7:02 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
The flexibility of capitalism allows these people to retrain and try earning a better living in a different profession if they so wish.


Workers hardly have it bad in more socialistic economies, such as in Germany, Sweden, the Netherlands, etc. They make a good wage, have incredible benefits, don't have to worry about the boss cracking down on their rights, and live in free societies. Best of all, no one is supposed to be left behind. Pretty good deal, I think.

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And those countries are capitalist. Yes, they may contain a few more elements usually associated with socialism, but they're still capitalist. The fact they're doing better than the US just shows how screwed the US is. Hell, Apple has more money than the US government FFS.



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08 Nov 2011, 7:08 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
The flexibility of capitalism allows these people to retrain and try earning a better living in a different profession if they so wish.


Workers hardly have it bad in more socialistic economies, such as in Germany, Sweden, the Netherlands, etc. They make a good wage, have incredible benefits, don't have to worry about the boss cracking down on their rights, and live in free societies. Best of all, no one is supposed to be left behind. Pretty good deal, I think.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


And those countries are capitalist. Yes, they may contain a few more elements usually associated with socialism, but they're still capitalist. The fact they're doing better than the US just shows how screwed the US is. Hell, Apple has more money than the US government FFS.


My point is, those countries, and others, don't go around screwing over workers and homeowners like is done by the powers that be who want to practice unregulated capitalism in this country.

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08 Nov 2011, 7:09 pm

Certain regulation is needed. I will not argue that point.



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08 Nov 2011, 7:28 pm

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Certain regulation is needed. I will not argue that point.


Well, enough that will keep workers, consumers and home owners safe from being stepped on and ground into the dirt by the rich and powerful.

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08 Nov 2011, 7:29 pm

Depends exactly how you'll go about achieving that.



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08 Nov 2011, 7:33 pm

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Depends exactly how you'll go about achieving that.


Well, what's supposed to be the wrong way of achieving that?

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