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25 Mar 2012, 2:35 pm

shrox wrote:

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So who went? Did you bring us anything?

I don't believe anyone did, and that is my non-position.

EDIT:

I can commit to that.

Of course, you don't have knowledge about it but you can still believe one way or the other.

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25 Mar 2012, 2:37 pm

snapcap wrote:

shrox wrote:

snapcap wrote:

shrox wrote:

So who went? Did you bring us anything?

I don't believe anyone did, and that is my non-position.

EDIT:

I can commit to that.

Of course, you don't have knowledge about it but you can still believe one way or the other.

I concur.

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25 Mar 2012, 2:45 pm

shrox wrote:

snapcap wrote:

shrox wrote:

snapcap wrote:

shrox wrote:

So who went? Did you bring us anything?

I don't believe anyone did, and that is my non-position.

EDIT:

I can commit to that.

Of course, you don't have knowledge about it but you can still believe one way or the other.

I concur.

Glad to hear that

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25 Mar 2012, 5:41 pm

snapcap wrote:

shrox wrote:

So who went? Did you bring us anything?

I don't believe anyone did, and that is my non-position.

EDIT:

Someone here doesn't understand the concept of falsifiability. And that someone is snapcap.

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25 Mar 2012, 5:58 pm

AspieRogue wrote:

snapcap wrote:

shrox wrote:

So who went? Did you bring us anything?

I don't believe anyone did, and that is my non-position.

EDIT:

Someone here doesn't understand the concept of falsifiability. And that someone is snapcap.

Do you not believe that I do or is that your non-position?

EDIT:

AspieRogue

25 Mar 2012, 11:50 pm

snapcap wrote:

AspieRogue wrote:

snapcap wrote:

shrox wrote:

So who went? Did you bring us anything?

I don't believe anyone did, and that is my non-position.

EDIT:

Someone here doesn't understand the concept of falsifiability. And that someone is snapcap.

Do you not believe that I do or is that your non-position?

EDIT:

The former.

The atheist position is the negation of the statement: "I believe in God"(IOW: I believe that God exists).

The only way you can have a non-position on the statement "God exists" is to be an agnostic.

So what you said about not believing anyone attended the rally as being a non-position is a total contradiction! In fact, you keep contradicting yourself repeatedly ITT.

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26 Mar 2012, 9:06 am

AspieRogue wrote:

The only way you can have a non-position on the statement "God exists" is to be an agnostic.

.

Which is to say: I have no way of knowing (nor does anyone else) whether or not God exists.

The existence of God is a totally undecidable proposition. It can be neither demonstrated or refuted empirically and it is not logically impossible. If the existence of God were logically impossible then we would know for certain that the proposition "God exists" is false. Any thing that is logically impossible is false and anything that is logically possible could be either true or false. The is no contradiction in asserting the water is not liquid at 60 degrees F. It is false to say so, but not logically contradictory.

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26 Mar 2012, 11:20 am

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The only way you can have a non-position on the statement "God exists" is to be an agnostic.

The only way you can have a non-position is if you haven't the mind to consider it.

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26 Mar 2012, 1:44 pm

So, I go through all the trouble of posting something I don't even believe in, and nobody here goes and nobody here even brings me back a lousy T-shirt?

Geez, typical Atheists...

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26 Mar 2012, 1:54 pm

snapcap wrote:

AspieRogue wrote:

The only way you can have a non-position on the statement "God exists" is to be an agnostic.

The only way you can have a non-position is if you haven't the mind to consider it.

Dude, the agnostic view is literally "I don't know, I don't care". They do not have a position. They do not give enough of a f**k to have a position.

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26 Mar 2012, 2:43 pm

abacacus wrote:

snapcap wrote:

AspieRogue wrote:

The only way you can have a non-position on the statement "God exists" is to be an agnostic.

The only way you can have a non-position is if you haven't the mind to consider it.

Dude, the agnostic view is literally "I don't know, I don't care". They do not have a position. They do not give enough of a f**k to have a position.

It doesn't matter if they think they don't have a position, because they do. They can believe that they don't, but that doesn't make it so. I could ask an atheist, theist, agnostic, or gnostic why they have their position, and guess what? That's their belief!

Why do you hold your position regarding God's existence? You don't even have to answer me, all you have to do is think about it, and when you analyzed it enough, you'll figure out why you have your position AKA your belief.

I should be a magician that performs for atheist birthday parties.

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26 Mar 2012, 3:18 pm

snapcap wrote:

abacacus wrote:

snapcap wrote:

AspieRogue wrote:

The only way you can have a non-position on the statement "God exists" is to be an agnostic.

The only way you can have a non-position is if you haven't the mind to consider it.

Dude, the agnostic view is literally "I don't know, I don't care". They do not have a position. They do not give enough of a f**k to have a position.

nor does your defintions and persistent claim to same mean that belief(1) is belief(2/4), one can have one without the others.
(you may now claim that that is belief all the same but that is where i bet many disagree with you, belief comes in many shapes and sizes so to say one is the other is clearly illogical)

1.
something believed; an opinion or conviction: a belief that the earth is flat.
2.
confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof: a statement unworthy of belief.
3.
confidence; faith; trust: a child's belief in his parents.
4.
a religious tenet or tenets; religious creed or faith: the Christian belief.

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26 Mar 2012, 3:28 pm

Everyone that has been conscious of the notion of God has a belief regarding that notion. End of story.

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26 Mar 2012, 3:40 pm

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Everyone that has been conscious of the notion of God has a belief regarding that notion. End of story.

but belief isnt belief so saying that is as inane and broad as saying that i am a human on earth, still not saying anything about anything.

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26 Mar 2012, 3:52 pm

Oodain wrote:

snapcap wrote:

Everyone that has been conscious of the notion of God has a belief regarding that notion. End of story.

but belief isnt belief so saying that is as inane and broad as saying that i am a human on earth, still not saying anything about anything.

Is that your belief?

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26 Mar 2012, 3:55 pm

snapcap wrote:

My position of god is the same as my position on unicorns fairies and fire breathing dragons:

I can have no position on that which does not exist.

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