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03 Jul 2012, 2:21 pm

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A lot of people have been having. Trouble finding a job my uncle who lives their. Lost his business diue to the poor economy.


At least you can't blame the eeeeeeeevil Brits for that, hey!


No I don't I blame the Euro Crisis.



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03 Jul 2012, 2:21 pm

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Is a UI


And you think continuing to use offensive rhetoric like "the English Queen" will help matters much?



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03 Jul 2012, 2:22 pm

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My great granparents where Irish immagrants from Ireland that immagrated to America I am a Irish American and of Irish descent.


"Irish Americans" are often treated with contempt in Ireland itself.


Yes yes I know so are English americans welch americans scottish americans. It;s not are fault we where born in the wrong country.



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03 Jul 2012, 2:24 pm

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Yes yes I know so are English americans welch americans scottish americans. It;s not are fault we where born in the wrong country.


You don't often hear "English Americans" billing themselves as such - they're just considered Americans. Seems the integration of the Irish hasn't gone all that well in America if they feel they have to stick "Irish" in front of it.



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03 Jul 2012, 2:26 pm

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Yes yes I know so are English americans welch americans scottish americans. It;s not are fault we where born in the wrong country.


You don't often hear "English Americans" billing themselves as such - they're just considered Americans. Seems the integration of the Irish hasn't gone all that well if they feel they have to stick "Irish" in front of it.


Their are also french americans. Because we are born in america. Where not allowed to be pround of. Where are family comes from. My family didn't come to america until. WW2 hell I don't even act American it's just my nationality. IF you came to American we would not view you as British.



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03 Jul 2012, 2:27 pm

That's exactly my point - we shouldn't be calling people "Irish-Americans" or "Polish British" or whatever. We should just be Americans and British.



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03 Jul 2012, 2:30 pm

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That's exactly my point - we shouldn't be calling people "Irish-Americans" or "Polish British" or whatever. We should just be Americans and British.


I am american with a Irish bloodline and a German bloodline. When I say I am Irish I am talking about my family culture.



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03 Jul 2012, 2:35 pm

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I am american with a Irish bloodline and a German bloodline. When I say I am Irish I am talking about my family culture.


That's your family heritage but it's not where you live now. I'm sure I probably have quite a bit of Irish ancestry but it doesn't make me want to call myself "Irish British" because I would look ridiculous.



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03 Jul 2012, 2:37 pm

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I am american with a Irish bloodline and a German bloodline. When I say I am Irish I am talking about my family culture.


That's your family heritage but it's not where you live now. I'm sure I probably have quite a bit of Irish ancestry but it doesn't make me want to call myself "Irish British" because I would look ridiculous.


Heritage in america is a very strong bond. I am not gonna live here all me life. WHen I am older and married I will move to Ireland.



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03 Jul 2012, 2:45 pm

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WHen I am older and married I will move to Ireland.


Aye, right. If you move to Ireland I will buy you a pint of Guinness, how's that?



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03 Jul 2012, 2:46 pm

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WHen I am older and married I will move to Ireland.


Aye, right. If you move to Ireland I will buy you a pint of Guinness, how's that?


Sounds good to me that's my favorite beer :wink:



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03 Jul 2012, 2:58 pm

It has not been my experience that Irish-Americans are treated with contempt in the Republic. They might get a snicker at the idea that they consider themselves Irish, but no malice. In general, I'd say that if Joker wants to call himself Irish he'd get more "failte"s than "feck off"s.



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03 Jul 2012, 2:59 pm

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It has not been my experience that Irish-Americans are treated with contempt in the Republic. They might get a snicker at the idea that they consider themselves Irish, but no malice. In general, I'd say that if Joker wants to call himself Irish he'd get more "failte"s than "feck off"s.


:lol: well my aunt in the republic view my as Irish that's good enough for me.



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03 Jul 2012, 3:10 pm

America is a nation of immigrants. People who have left their homeland tend to romanticize it (especially in earlier times when returning for visits was impossible for most people), and pass that romanticism onto their children and their children's children. That is why so many Americans also feel a strong sort of patriotism towards the land(s) of their ancestors.



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03 Jul 2012, 3:13 pm

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America is a nation of immigrants. People who have left their homeland tend to romanticize it (especially in earlier times when returning for visits was impossible for most people), and pass that romanticism onto their children and their children's children. That is why so many Americans also feel a strong sort of patriotism towards the land(s) of their ancestors.


I am glad you understand but their isn't much pride. Towards my german side they did a lot of horrible things. It's hard to be proud of your german roots. It's why we rarley fly the German flag. It's not something we can take pride in anymore due to nazis skinheads and racists.



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03 Jul 2012, 3:19 pm

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They might get a snicker at the idea that they consider themselves Irish, but no malice.


Depends on the context, I think. I do know that Americans used to get ripped off something criminal in the Republic (some of it was their own fault, though) - so much so that many stopped going.