Understanding Feminism (Women: Your opinions)

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Yes, a real hotbed of the coming feminist revolution.
(/sarcasm)
compare that to the seething pit of human waste that is the Men's Rights subforum on Reddit, or to Spearhead; posts advocating actual violence against women, because they are women and refuse to be treated as less than human, get hundreds of upvotes.

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Ahhh, we are defeated by the complex argument of substituting a portion of someone's name with a word that belittles them! OH, the Woe! We should now crawl back into our fluffy pink woman-retreat and lick our wounds.

Doesn't belittle him, but rather describes him to a tee. He's a fruitcake and a nut.

I was making fun of the fact that particular feminist board was deader than a doornail and full of angry women who do nothing but think of ways of dodging the issues rather than using reason or logic to promote their cause, sort of like you.

Anyway, I've argued with feminists before. They never like to discuss the issues rationally. They either resort to situational ad hominem attacks, pleads for pity, taking their ball and going home or some other way of trying to dodge the real issue at hand. not excluding asking a moderator to ban a person for making "sexist remarks" (Which in feminist code, is an argument which challenges modern feminism). I'm just going to sit back and watch you prove me right.

The guy doing the debunking can't read.

Many people are discussing feminists as if they are a monolith (all the same). Objectivizing people may make life easier. However, people are not categories.

For instance, whenever you type "feminists," you might replace it (in your mind) with members of a racial or a religious minority (or Autists for that matter). It is the same issue.

No, darling, you were trying to prove that radical feminists are running wild and have the 'real control' out in the world. Remember, there's a permanent record of what you already said.

Says the guy who thinks that calling a blogger a 'fruitnut' challenges said blogger's body of work in some way.

There you have it, folks: MRA argumentation at its best.

Sarcasm detection isn't one of your strong points, isn't it. But then again, neither is irony detection either. BTW, women in glass houses shouldn't throw shovels..

Wow. Just wow.

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Men's movements are not created to support women's rights



QuickStats: Age-Adjusted Homicide Rates,* by Sex and Type of Locality† — United States, 2007–2009

Weekly

June 8, 2012 / 61(22);422




* Per 100,000 standard population. Deaths from homicide are those coded *U01–*U02, X85–Y09, and Y87.1 in the International Classification of Diseases, 10th Revision.

† Counties were classified into urbanization levels based on a classification scheme that considers metropolitan/nonmetropolitan status, population, and other factors.

Among males and females, the homicide rate during 2007–2009 was highest in large central metropolitan counties. For males, the age-adjusted homicide rate in large central metropolitan counties was 76% higher than the rate in medium metropolitan counties (14.4 versus 8.2 per 100,000 population) and more than double (122%–129% higher) the rates in other types of localities. For females, the homicide rates ranged from a high of 2.9 in large central metropolitan counties to 1.9 in large fringe metropolitan counties. In each type of locality, the homicide rate was much higher for males than females. Overall, the homicide rate was 9.1 per 100,000 population for males and 2.5 for females.

Sources: National Vital Statistics System. County-level mortality file. Available at http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/deaths.htm and http://wonder.cdc.gov/mortsql.html.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1635092
If men want to stop being the victims of crime, the single most effective thing that they can do is to stop being criminals. There would still be women committing crime, but there would be vastly less crime overall.

One negative impact of feminism is that women who are no longer suppressing their aggressive and/or dominant sides are somewhat more likely to commit violent crimes, but the rate of female violence and crime is still vastly below that committed by men.

Wow.... Just wow.... Words cannot describe the outright insensitivity as well as ignorance of the above statement.

I posted peer-reviewed data; do you have data of similar quality that contradicts my point?

Your peer reviewed studies are correct, however, the premise you got from those peer reviewed studies is offensive and inaccurate. It's akin to saying "If a woman doesn't want to get beaten, she should avoid dating men who are poorer than her".

Hey, what I said is true. Women who date men from lesser socioeconomic levels do raped and beaten more often than women who stay within their own socioeconomic class.

But then if I said the following, I'd be accused of blaming the women for being victims. And you'd be right. It's because nobody asks to be a victim.

Therefore, you're a tool. Lemme guess, your ex boyfriend broke your heart and you act this way.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JA4EPRbWhQ&feature=g-vrec[/youtube]

Which men's movements? There are different ones. Some were established primarily to support women's rights. Others were started for different reasons.

The data you quoted are accurate. They are same as what I discuss in my Social Problems courses. As indicated, when they are controlled on age, the differences diminish. However, as I wrote before, the rate of violent crime among females has gradually been increasing.