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Not quite.

Male chimps grant "sex privileges" to their allies in order to maintain power.

Male chimpanzees rise to "alpha" status by forming alliances with other males, not by exerting brute strength. A single male chimp isn't strong enough to completely prevent other males from mating. He only "hordes" the females when they are at the height of fertility, but even then he is only ever partially successful.

**source: various works by Frans De Waal**

I suspect Hunter/Gatherer societies might have been similar. One man is going to have a difficult time controlling all the other men.

I recall reading something about a freaky dolphin who would lure tourists into the water just to have sex with them.

Obviously, it was an aberrant creature.

There have been other reports of dolphins who seek human companionship, if not necessarily sex.

Sorry I don't have a source handy, but, like I said, I'll see if I can google something to double-check.

Some of the research I've read has speculated that this "sharing" of females by males is one of the things that eventually led to human civilization, and even monogamy.

If you think about it, I highly doubt any male leader would remain in power very long if he declared no other man but him could have sex.

I trust that you have read it and aren't just making it up, lol. Interesting info there!

So true! However, there is the uniquely human phenomena of creating eunichs in society so that could be possible as well. Some men were castrated to keep them from breeding. Castration is a permanent way for the leader to exert his power without having to fight the same people over and over. He just has his rivals castrated and no longer worries.

I suspect that if Australian Aborigines did endorse gang rape (or group sex) as a cultural practice, most of them don't any more. At least if a White Australian is listening.

Rape seems to be fairly commonplace among modern aboriginals, as does alcoholic intoxication. Alcoholic intoxication is a big part of the culture of White Australia. It would probably be safe to assume that drunkenness was adopted from the traditions of the English. Possibly the Aboriginals had other means of inducing intoxication, I don't know. But, without the English, there would be no Victoria Bitter.

Beyond drunkenness, there were doubtless other impacts that resulted from the English appropriating Australia's best land and pushing the Aboriginals into the desert. Which makes it difficult to try to suss out what comprised the authentic sexual experiences of pre-English Australians. Given the peculiar taboos of the Anglosphere, people seem to be left with projecting their own ideas onto Aboriginal sex life. Maybe they enjoyed wild orgies. Maybe the men behaved exactly as modern Feminists think that men should behave, in faithful serial monogamous relationships with the woman as the head of the family. Maybe rapes were commonplace.

Assuming that they lived in tribes or small isolated clans, then it would have been to the species' advantage to bring new genetic material into the clan from time to time. Trading of women would have been one way to accomplish this. Having your women raped by members of another clan would also accomplish this. As would inviting other clans to a big orgy once in a while.

Actually, it's a myth, Arrant, that genetic diversity makes a species stronger. What makes a species genetically viable are genes that promote it's survival no matter what those are. Genetic diversity often introduces genes that are not conducive to survival into a group that did not have such genes before.

It's only when the genes are bad and paired together that you see these diseases and whatnot crop up that can lead to illness and sometimes, death.

If you have a population without these genes and they are interbreeding, how can it be bad unless something mutates and a condition arises that way.

So you see, it's the genes that are to blame, not the actual breeding practices. Most people do not like the idea of interbreeding, and are disgusted by it. This is the real reason why it's not good.

I like to look for typos in the classifieds,I found one that said;
"for sale,incest zapper".

Might be good for those family reunions here in Ark

So, did hunter-gatherers typically reproduce via incest? I thought that most human societies developed mechanisms to resist inbreeding. Supposedly, part of the reason why Europe's royal families were so crazy was the inbreeding.

Wonder if that's my problem

Don't know about Hunter/Gatherers but take a look at Egyptian Dynasties and the families who ran them. You will be amazed and shocked, perhaps, at what you find.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ8jweTSajg&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/youtube]

Pffft Egyptians make first cousin marriage look like nothing out of the ordinary considering with Egyptians, it was fathers/daughters, mothers/sons, brothers/sisters and anything else you can think of that's too close for comfort. They saw it as a way to keep the status quo. Even cousins were considered too far removed to marry and produce heirs.

I know some first cousins who married.The kids seem ok.
My Aunt thought I should marry my cousin,he's a cousin by marriage NOT by blood but only because she had some archaic Idea of keeping wealth in the family.

http://www.strangehistory.net/2011/06/2 ... ent-egypt/

Looks like incest was a way of life in Egypt.