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Parties are controlled by the elites. They’d be better off making a new party like the tea party did.
Many pro gun people voted for 3rd party this election trying to get 3rd party to happen, bet most left people who liked Bernie voted for Hillary.

For people like us I for middle class or working clas it’s horrible. My sister owes money cause she wasn’t on insurance. She’s a health care working makes 1700 or so, the states insurance kept changing so there were months where she didn’t have insurance cause they kicked her off and their system to get her enrolled into another failed. Also meant she didn’t get her medication. So yeah it’s nit too great for a lot of people. We have to think about everyone nit just the poor.
Obama care was written by insurance companies. It’s made them richer. I’m sure obama and other politicians received nice care packages.

There’s few issues with universal healthcare, how will you fund it? Raise taxes even more? And what’s the use if we don’t mandate healthcare costs and negotiate drug costs? Sure you’ll get rid of insurance companies but the rich hospitals will still rack in billions from over priced health care. Everything will cost the same just now we’ll have much higher taxes.

But you act like everyone in the right is one giant hivemind.

As long as the party does what it does and people from either side blindly support the party they are just as guilty as the party. I don’t support either party. I vot on the issues. Most people on either side vote on party line. They vote all democrat or all Republican. Then b***h about the two party system. They could vote 3rd party. Or and I know it’s a shocker to them they could vote for someone of the opposite party who supports their issues but they won’t. Lots of people who hate Hillary voted for her cause she’s democrat. Lots of people who hate trump voted for him cause he ran republican. They do this for governor, seantorsm cingress men, mayors, councilors. So,e will vote on issues based in what their party supports. They won’t even read the issue.

I dislike the left because I’ve meet few who aren’t against me. There’s millions of left people who vot republican like me in gun issues. But we are probably only 1/4 or 1/5 of the left. And I say it over and over the democrats would get lot more votes gained from dropping gun control then they’d lose. They’d probably get some republicans to vote for them. Disabled,gays, trans, etc people are forced to vote republican because we don’t want to be disarmed and defenseless. Th very people the left claims to defend but thy hate and attack if they own guns.

They don’t want to simply cut funding. That’s not what I said.
They want laws that cut th bureaucracy.
Paul Ryan and ted Cruz are the only ones I’ve seen calling to cut social security. They are hard core cut all government libertarians. They don’t think we should have any federal government besides a military. I can’t stand libertarians. They believe in survial of the fittest.

Well then I'd think more right wingers would be pissed about Trumps tax plan...but its like they just trust that it is great even though you can look up quite clearly, that middle class and below people get a temporary tax break which will end within two years and the very wealthy get yet another permanent tax break.

Also of course they rigged it...its pretty obvious there was more support for Bernie, I mean I feel like I even posted here about how pissed I was about that, I can't remember though.

Also Trumps little trade war with China is just going to hurt a lot of american industries, I am sure they will be feeling the bite soon.

Ok that is the people you have watched on youtube...I am talking about what I hear from politicians who have made public comments. If the talk was about reducing bureaucracy I would have no real issue with it...but that is not what I am hearing from the politicians in the Republican party or from Trump. Seems Trump wants to take away from those programs just to increase funding for military and the border wall. Nothing to do with wanting to reduce bureaucracy so the system is more efficient for those who need it.

Doesn’t matter if they take all guns, TAKING ANY GOD DAMN GUNS IS ENOUGH. Thyengoing to tske our guns, if thy leave use some single shot 22lr rifles doesn’t make it ok it doesn’t change they taking out guns. Saying they won’t tske all of them isn’t good or comforting.
Guess it’s easy for yiu yiu won’t have your rights or possessions taken from you by force.
It’s like some guy saying he’s going come rape your wife every day then some other person says oh come in thst won’t happen he’ll probably just come rape her 3 days a week. Is that better? How about he doesn’t come rape her at all.mthat sounds good, so how about they don’t tske any guns and leave us alone.
Lots of things said that’d never happen happen. Nazis took over Europe, Soviet Union fell, we went to the moon, trump got elected president. All were said to never going to happen.
California has passed most the laws yiu say won’t haooen, it’s already happen, so did New York. Now my state is trying to pass it. So sorry but it’s happen, it can happen and might happen to me.
Obama was set to strip people on social security of their rights and guns, again yiu say it can’t happen. It did. Trump stopped it. Trump can’t save me from my state though. I can’t afford to move to another state. So I’ll face a choice, die in a gun fight with swat or turn in all my guns and probably kill myself.

Everyone wants us stripped of our rights and locked up. Democrats and republicans. We different and we are a small minority. No one will miss us or care.
Look obama attacked us with the social security ban. And super pro gun people supported it . They supoorted removing people’s gun rights without due process for no reason other then being born different. Democrats suported it too cause we a danger they said. The very same people who claim they support minorities turn in them if thunown guns. All I can say is thank god for the nra and ACLU,along with most disability groups, who went to bat for us with Congress and got them to repeal it and trump to sign the repeal. Everyone else was fine and agreed that people born different who need welfare are dangerous and shouldn’t have rights. I tell you want that shows me the true faces of most people. It made me sick. Most people are so ready to demonize and stigmatize us. We are more at risk todsy then in the past. Once they label us danger to society how long would it been til they mandated we be locked up?

It’s the waste that bothers me. That’s all. There’s a lot of fraud in the system, and I think we should be tougher on THAT. I have no problem with welfare as long as it’s going to a good cause. If there’s a way to make the welfare system efficient and EFFECTIVE, I’m all for it.

I don’t get the impression that most lawmakers really want to cut it. REFORM it so it does the most good for the most people without overburdening the taxpayer bottom line, but I defo think welfare is necessary. I doubt any dem or repub would be seriously active in getting rid of it because it would be a political disaster.

My biggest objection to liberal welfare policies is that there have been those who supposedly championed job creation and sponsoring programs to break dependence on welfare. The trouble is nothing ever gets pushed through while they continue to demand more programs and more funding. The income gap between welfare and the entry-level job market is prohibitively wide and nothing is being done about it.

In my own experience, I left college with a master’s degree right about the time the Great Recession bubble was just beginning to fissure. I was having difficulty getting my first job, and the employers I’d really hoped would pick me up didn’t call back until after I’d signed a contract with someone else. It ended up being a disaster. Going back to live with mom was looking better by the hour.

But I made up my mind not to quit. I took a new job the next year and moved to the Delta. Things were looking rough, so I quit and took another job. By this point I was married, had a mortgage, one child and another on the way. Within 2 years I was fired AGAIN, another baby on the way, and then my wife was dismissed from her job. Within months, the house was gone, I was working 3 part-times, AND we were homeless.

A LOT has changed in the meantime, and it’s been all about learning from mistakes and making better decisions. I’ve known a lot of people who started the welfare cycle and can’t keep there heads above water because they’re still waiting for something to come up that beats welfare. You just can’t get those kinds of jobs, unfortunately, and we’ve made our lives from making friends and being in the right time and place. Leftist policies do NOT help move out of poverty. If anything, they reinforce it.

I have acknowledged there are different views on the right...where did I suggest anything about a hive mind?

Also, I don't want to get shot because we have no real regulation on guns whatsoever. I don't think most liberals support anything like banning all the guns. Yes some do, but I don't think that is a very realistic perspective, most though just want better regulations and to have the already existing ones enforced better. Also perhaps some guns people think ought to be banned should just be better regulated instead.

But do you really think just anyone should be able to go buy a military style automatic rifle? I mean if I understand you have some guns that would fit that catagory so I'd assume you have a respect for the damage they can do...can you really say you think just anyone should have one? I mean its like some think it has to be all or nothing either ban all the guns or fight against all regulations. I'd say this is an issue where we need some compromise on both sides.

For instance its a federal government policy that if you are a medical marijuana patient, you can't own guns. I mean even the NRA is silent on that...I mean sure make stricter regulations to try and prevent people with violent histories or who are unstable enough they'd be a danger to them-self or others is an attack on the second amendment. But denying any and all medical marijuana patients across the bored regardless of anything else isn't such a big deal to them.

Also, even if they don't ban any guns and people tried to have some kind of armed uprising against the current government, do they really think it would get far? Even with all the assault rifles in the world, pretty sure the Govt/military has bigger weapons.

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Very few republicans will support cutting social security.
They lose their seats. They’ll lose their power their acces to corporate bribes. Most seats in the senate and House don’t come from areas controlled by either party it’s why they changes parties. Democrats in California and New York are safe, not so in other states. Republicans aren’t safe anywhere. Even Texas is going democrat.
Plenty of republicans are on welfare. Most the military gets food stamps and housing assistance. Lots of vets get social security. Know what the right loves the most? Military servicemen and vets. And old people. Lots of republicans are old people. So if you hurt retired people on social security and vets it’s a angry them.

I haven’t seen anyone call for it besides ted Cruz, Paul Ryan and that other farther son politician pair.what do they all have in common? They all hard core libertarians. Who want no government.

Trump spends too much time with Paul Ryan. But democrats refuse to meet with him. He’s not set to either side. If democrats meet with him regularly likempaul does they might sway him more to the middle or left. Look trumps trump he listens to others then generally does what they say. He makes outbursts, he doesn’t censor himself. He never had to as a rich person. He’s essentially a spoiled brat like a lot of kids from rich parents are. I’m still glad we got him then Hillary. He supports the nra when they talked to him, then he talked to anti gun democrats and hates the Nra, next week he might like them again. He removed rh social security attack on gun rights, after talking to anti gun politicians he says he supports it basically. He’s wishy washy. He has no real opinions of his own. Which is good and bad. Good: he’s nit dead set hard core either party, he can be swayed, he could be a good middle ground. bad: he can be sway to either party if they talk right to him. It’s why he’s all over the freaking place. One week he’s super pro guns, next week he’s super anti gun, next week he’s more between, who knows what his stance will be next week. Lots of pro gun people gate trump now. They didn’t trust him before and are saying told you so.
Look trump isn’t the president anyone wanted. He’s the one people would take over Hillary. But we’ll stuck with him for 8 years. Name a president since.nixion who didn’t get 8 years? Trump has 6 years then everything will shift democrat for 8 years. This is how it works. One party gets control, people get sick of their crap and vote the other party in, that party does same thing so they vote the other one back in. Somehow never realizing both of them suck. Democrats had theirn8 years mess up, now it’s the republicans 8 years to mess up. Endless cycle. Republicans don’t control th senate. Like obama they had it for a year and lost it. They probably lose more seats in this midterm just like obama did and bush before him and Clinton before him and bush before him etc.
We are in a unbreakble loop.

Alright, well how do rightist policies help move out of poverty than? Or is it possible neither the Republican or the Democratic party have a real solution, I say the latter is likely.

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President Obama was the last major push for cutting Social Security. He proposed changing it to the "Chained CPI", so it grows slower.

"Obama drops controversial Social Security proposal"
http://money.cnn.com/2014/02/20/news/ec ... index.html

And I suppose the current GOP is just going to leave it alone...somehow I don't quite believe that.

This site seems dominated by very poor people.

In real life, success is met with "THAT'S GRRREEAT!".

On WP, *SUCCESS* is often considered offensive.

Considered offensive:
-The success people can gain from capitalism
-The success people have from hard work and education.
-The success people have from landing a high paying job.
-The success of being able to live in a nice neighborhood.
-The success of growing up poor and "making it".
-The success of buying expensive things.

Likely considered non-offensive:
-You're miserable because, "the system" has failed you.
-Capitalism is suppressing you.
-"The rich" are actively out to get you.
-You believe that hard work and education are not rewarded.
-You believe the Horatio Alger story is a myth.

Disabled people are usually poor, and the "system" has failed them.

Autism is a disability.

I've worked hard, and am still broke.

Sorry I didn’t know you were writing from the 1800s my bad . I live in 2018 we have a liberal mountain of gun regulation . There are over 2,000 federal gun laws. And many more state ones.
This is why we don’t trust or like your side
You keep ignoring all past gun laws all the stuff we gave up and saying we have no regulation and need to find the middle ground. We passed middle ground in the 80s you can’t move the goal post we aren’t falling for it anymore
Automatic guns were banned in 1986. You’ve be lied to and tricked
Assault weapons don’t exist . They are trying to ban all simi automatics which includes all pistols, most hunting rifles and shotguns. So grays on supporting banning 90% of guns.
You do realize all guns and most knifes started as military arms? Those bolt action hunting rifles were standard issue in ww2. They also had simi auto guns going way back before ww1
Some? You mean all but two of my guns fall under this mad up term to attack all simi auto guns while making people think they banning full auto machine guns that they already banned in 1986. If my Honda is red like a ferrari is it one?
My ar15 is simi auto not full auto. Assault rifles are select fire meaning full,burst, simi
My at and all my handguns are simi auto only . One pull of the trigger one shot. That is what they are wanting to ban. Along with 30 round mags the shooter didn’t even use.
But facts be Damn’s lie lie lie lie enough and people will beleive it said hitlers minister. And that’s what they’ve done to you and millions other. “We have to ban assault rifles and high capacity mags like the park and shooter used” but he didn’t have a $20,000 federal Register assault rifle and he used 10 rd mags the very mags they say would stop mass shootings.
They were more concealable he said

The damage? They do damage just like all guns
The ar15 is weak fat weaker then most rifles. It’s mean to wound not kill. But if you shot anyone enough times they bleed out to death. The round was designed for wolves and coyote and raccoons, small game. The military liked it cause in humans it wounded. Wounded soldier means two others carry him, a team of people care for him, resources that would gone to fighting go to his care and treatment. You take far more out of the fight wounding then killing. Can it kill with the right placement? Yeah any gun shot to the head or heart is deadly. .22 is a kids target round the ar15 shoots .223 with more powder so it goes further. Most hunting rifles shoot .357 or more. Handguns are .357 .40 .45 most revolver rounds are more deadly then .223.
Most revolvers carry .357 mag or 44mag.
Most soldiers want to get ride of the ar15 and it’s .223 round and go back to a real rifle round due to its issues with killing enemies.
Here’s the .223 next to your common used
hunting round(mind you there other larger longer rounds used for hunting)


I have respect for the damage any gun can do

Here’s some assault weapons under the bill




The Texas sniper killed just as many people with a bolt action 5 shot rifle.
Anyone who’s not a felon or been court determined to be danger should be able to own any simi auto they want. They modern guns been around since 1900s or earlier. The ar15 is over 60 years old and just now been used in shootings why? I’m sure the media saying USA so great at killing has nothing to do with people picking it? An gun person wanting to kill lots of people would take a 308 or 3006 climb a building over a busy square and kill 50-100 people. Those round were made to kill people at 700 yards or more. They drop moose and elk.
All gun owners agree the Vegas shooter didn’t know guns or he’d used the 308 single shots. He’d hit more people. Thankfully he didn’t. He didn’t seem to have any idea what he was doing as he was crazy. The Texas sniper did.

We’ve already given up too much then they want more and say we don’t ever give anything .


We are against any horrible laws (that even they admit won’t stop any mass shootings) that don’t do anything but hurt gun owners with their goal being goal ban slowly law by law.
Most people who support the assault weapon ban are for handguns but when I tell them it’d ban most handguns they like I didn’t know that.
Read the law not the title not what the media lies to you about.

Compromise?
What do we get? All past laws we got nothing and gave stuff . We offered universal background checks for national carry acceptance
They said no go to hell we get what we want an you get to keep some of your guns for now that’s not compromising.

Compromise- an agreement or a settlement of a dispute that is reached by each side making concessions.
^weve never ever had a compromise with gun stuff the anti gun side never makes any concessions. They just take take take take and demand more

The anti gun people will never allow people with weed to own guns. Hawaii used that to push their agenda if total ban and take guns with force from anyone who smokes weed. They could have ignored it like they do with illegal immigrants and people smoking weed in the first place but they hate guns and saw this as a chance to attack gun owners. Same with Obama’s and the social security ban or anti gun people attacking gays for owning guns.
Being anti gun trumps any and all concerns they have for minority’s
Most pro gun people think weed should be legal.
Here in my state lots of people smoke weed and own guns.

Again soon I may face having to turn my guns in or dying in a swat raid.
I’m not a land owner I can’t register them as I’m poor and rent. Left sure loves poor people?

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Yes, because our whole society is designed by and for neurotypical people.
The current poor economy is also a factor.



Perhaps I would be glad if a family member of mine was successful. I wouldn't be glad if someone else was. Why should I care?



We are mainly mad about people who use their wealth to rig elections, not people who are simply wealthy.



What success are you referring to?

Real success comes from having food, water, shelter, caring friends, a job, a hobby and an education.

There were people in the distant past who had all of these things. Meanwhile, the modern capitalist system still produces starvation.



Even Soviet Russia had this sort of success.

This sort of success is far more common in countries with free post-secondary education.



Perhaps the government should fix the economy and create more jobs instead of waiting for this economic trainwreck to fix itself



Crime is less common in societies with a proper social safety net.



This is also more common in societies with a social safety net.



Is anyone here really offended by that?



In any society, your fate is tied to the system. Nobody is an island. You can sink or swim because of the structure of the world around you.



Well ... different people get a different reward for their hard work. Some people get to rig an election. Other people just get to live to see another day.

Of course education is rewarded ... but they don't tell you about the most important stuff in school.

University professors nowadays will go on and on about feminist theory. That isn't necessarily a bad thing. I just wish that they would spend as much time talking about the corruption of democracy, since that topic is equally important.



What are you talking about? That story is literally a myth.

Assault rifle(m4) full auto


Ar15 simi auto(one round per trigger pull just like any other simi auto hunting rifle)



Ar15 and other simi auto guns can not go full auto they are not designed to and would need professional remilling to take parts to go full auto and that’s be a federal crime unless your a class 3 manufactur

Was hard to find one as they banned except pre 86 owner ones and people rarely sell them
Here you go for a tiny amount of $27,500 and after you go through a year of waiting for the atf to process your paper work and all legal requirements you too can own a military style automatic assault rifle. Providing your state allows it and your local police ok it. Then you can’t move without first getting atf approval and must always have the paperwork with the gun at all times.
Might add your paying for a old gun with lots of rounds through it that’s probably not until why best shape.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/763153801

If your the police, class 3 dealer for police, or say a government offical like a senator
You get get a brand new one for $1,400 or less. One senator bought a bunch from colt brand new post 86 machine guns then sold them as campaign fund raisers for $25,000 each. Neting then an nice profit. See government officials are exempt from the ban and most other laws. No law passed by Congress shall effect congress.

The people who made the terms assault weapon have said in interviews they wanted to confuse people into thinking they talking about assault rifles same with weapons of war and military style(looks like, do we ban other stuff that looks scary)

The weapons of war is obama banned from import few years ago?
Ww2 bolt action rifles and carbines.
People though they were banning assault rifles and m60s from Vietnam.
Nope bolt action rifles and simi auto carbines made in the USA and loaned to Korea post Korean War. They upgraded long ago to assault rifles and thus wanted to sell us back our loaned antique guns which the government would have sold to people to raise money for teaching kids about guns and gun safety. How horrible thank god obama stopped that.

Most of them are just worn out wall hangers of history. People like to get guns from ww2 for collecting.

Korea(close ally) then sold them to Canada. Now Canadians get our loans and the Canadian government gets the profits from selling them.
Canada who has less strict gun laws then the ones anti gun people want.
They can have as many assault weapaons(simi auto firearms) as they want

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