Are MRAs always angry?

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I don't know what's happening over there in US, but I've never seen such things you're speaking of over here. This sentence alone betrays your true intentions and emotions. Either way I'm not worried - you're fighting a loosing battle and not a very worthwhile one anyway. All I see is hatred and NO will whatsoever to engage in a constructive, rational discussion. You are no better than those "feminists" whatever they are in you own little head.

Actually after reading nonsense like this, which would've been more than acceptable some 50 years ago, I'm really happy that there are even radical feminists. Really, MRA does not deserve my empathy with people like you advocating for them. WHAT men problems? This is hilarious. You can't get laid? Oh boo hoo

Oxford dictionary: feminism - The advocacy of women’s rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes.


You're a radical! Keep on using these phrases and diminishing the importance of feminism even nowadays! Denying that women face pretty huge inequality these days. Admit at least one, I dare you

Threats of violence against women are so prevalent they don't even count anymore?!
Men should be fired in some instances! (and I have no problems admitting that some women are using this "feminism" to achieve their own even goals and sometimes this is unfair) Seriously, sexual harassment in workplace is insane. And you have NO clue (and clearly no ability to step into someone elses shoes) because you're a man.
Statistics is NOT bogus! How do you know that? Some groups may have used something skewed, sure, everyone does, but statistics are OVERWHELMING. You have to be an uneducated idiot to deny that. Go read some papers
The VAST majority of pedophiles, rapists are MEN. No one says that this implies that most men are like that, not at all. You have serious problems if you cannot distinguish. Please get some help.
Shaming has to be used when reason doesn't work.
Some women can cry rape, sure, it should be dealt with. But this is really NOT the issue. The sheer amount of legitimate rapes where a man doesnt get convicted is abhorring. You might not be one, but a lot of them are.

Analogously: Have you got any more of this, or do you want to stop at quacking plums?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjiz_a ... erview_fun



For shame, Mr Knows. For shame.

^^^^^^^^^^ Thumbs up

The vast majority of pedophiles and rapists WHO GET ADJUDICATED are men. Most women who commit those acts can walk around their daily lives with impunity and pride, knowing that they got away with doing things that a man would get castrated over.

Just speaking from personal experience here. I was sexually abused by many females in my youth. None of them will have to spend a single day in jail over what they did to me. Of course, a part of that has to do with my state's statute of limitations, but people are telling me that I should "not be angry" at any of these women, because "men probably taught them how to act like that". BS.

EDIT - I feel a need to clarify that nobody should be getting away with acts like these under any circumstances. I just strongly believe that all sex offenders should be treated equally, regardless of gender. And I hate it when people say that I am a "high and mighty misogynist" when I make statements like that.

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dictionary defintions are not manifestos





women's health get more money than men's

women dominate academia they outnumber men on college campuses

women initiate 70% of divorces

most custody cases of children goes to women

governments have government programs, ministries, and departments that exclusively caters to women

women get lighter sentences than men for the same crimes committed


etc




what about threats of violence, genocide, enslavement, mass murder against men on twitter which are labelled are label as jokes and dark humor by the feminists here on WP?


nobody here is saying sexual harassment in the workplace don't exist.




they are bogus because they don't present any peer reviewed research to back them up.








female pedophiles are also common.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8022861.stm








False Rape Allegations: An Assault On Justice

http://www.theforensicexaminer.com/archive/spring09/15/

Although there is no doubt that false rape allegations occur, it is extremely difficult to determine what percentage of rape reports is intentionally false. This is due to many factors, including jurisdictional variation in definition, criteria, and reporting practices, as well as the fact that not all rapes are reported. Although the FBI had set 8% as the average rate of false (actually, unfounded) accusations during the late 1990s, there is remarkable variation in the estimates of false allegations of rape found in the literature (Kanin, 1994; Epstein, 2005). A review of those studies on false rape accusations conducted between 1968 and 2005 showed a percentage range from 1-90% (Rumney, 2006).

Miss, an honest citation would have been:



My "stated opinion" was "I'll respond to this and the next one together," which I did. That response rebutted just the sort of skewed statistics that cannotthinkoff likes to trivialize.

It doesn't matter if the statistics are "overwhelming," as she put it. In a free, fair country, you can only accuse people of things that they actually did. It doesn't matter if they're guilty of something else, or a hundred other things; they still have the right to defense (both legal and reputational) against any charge that you level against them.

It's been claimed here that feminists are egalitarian, and concerned about freedoms and rights. Deny that key right, and you will eventually have destroyed them all - including for yourself.



Yes, and you have spent quite a bit of time on my posts. In fact, I'm flattered

You say women rape as much as men do? :> Maybe more?

Sorry you had to go through this, I am definitely not justifying women sexual offenders nor I am denying their existence. But these are rather rare pathological cases.

It is a well-known fact that sexual abuse that has been perpetrated by women gets reported a lot less often. Especially when it is a boy that is being abused. The kind of shame that is attached with sort of abuse is overwhelming, considering how rigourously people hold up traditional gender roles in such high esteem.

I probably should not be making arguments in this debate, however. I have my own axe to grind, and it probably is impossible for me to think about the whole MRA situation with a level head at this point in my life. On one hand, the MRA movement looks appealing to me for obvious reasons. On the other hand, I read a lot of what is on their websites, and I realize that a lot of what they are saying is incredibly unfair, putting some of these men on the same exact same moral level as the predatory females I knew earlier in my life.

I will step out of this thread now.

And you just made one up, congrats


Sure because they have babies. thats obvious

FALSE. go look it up, women professors are rare, and so what if there are more women in college?

because men are cheaters and rapists. and you statistics are made up

because they birthed them, men dont give a sh*t and i bet 90% dont want them, and women put all their time and enrgy into the child.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics

lots of survivors, myself included, of abuse and sexual assault of both genders never see justice for what was done to them. no one is arguing that female predators don't exist, or that they don't sometimes escape justice just like lots of male predators do. whoever is telling you not to be angry at your abusers is wrong: you have a right to deal with your experiences however you see fit and your feelings are legitimate. it is perfectly normal and understandable to feel angry at someone that has violated you; it's part of the process of healing, getting angry. anger is a healthy response to injustice--what you do with that anger, however, can be healthy or unhealthy. you can learn to harness it and use it productively or you can let it consume you.

I would even bother respond to this blanket anti-male response. this is typical feminist claim to support equality and a couple sentences later post anti-male statements calling men rapists, cheaters and not give a damn about their children.

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I would not say they are always angry.

However it is hard to keep your head up when your talks keep being interrupted by fire alarms(3 times in 2 years and that is only on Canada) and the only solution they find is to charge you more for the inconveniences people that do not like your talks cause.

Light joking aside:

MRAs seem to be angry most of the time, just as feminists, because they want you to react to what they are saying in a certain way and an angry tone that talks about all your "issues" causes a stronger reaction than someone just talking plainly

Sex-drive also isn't the only reproductive urge that people let get the better of them.

There are plenty of creepers angling for money and emotional control. Some of the women that I knew growing up would take out the latter on their own kids. I knew a girl who'd been sexually abused by her grandfather when she was little, and the damage in the two cases is almost identical - eroded demarcation of self, misunderstanding what healthy members of the opposite sex want, heightened basal fear...

Thanks. I know I said I would drop out of this thread just a couple of posts above, but this warrants a response.

Frankly, I would have been right at home in any MRA group about a decade ago. I can't really say it would have been because of hate. It would have been because I was outright terrified of females. I really wonder how many men in those groups really know the same kind of fear I experienced, and how many of them are just oversheltered whiners with too much time on their hands, or how many of them are making a pathetic attempt to blame their own victims.

I have a strong distrust of females, even today. I am starting to think that the whole reason I turned to homosexuality is because I found most men to be non-threatening, while the opposite sex frankly scared the hell out of me. But I am trying. I am really trying to let that go. Of course, therapy helps. As well as being a member of a 12-step group. I hope to one day reach the point where my kneejerk emotional reactions are not as unfair as they have been for most of my life.

And like I said earlier, the MRA groups did look appealing to me for a short while..... I think it was their claims of an epidemic of false rape charges that turned me away, though. False rape charges are an atrocity, but I was once ridiculed when I reported my own sexual abuse experiences, and nobody deserves an experience like that. The more I read, the more I realized that a lot of these guys were most likely blaming the victim to cover their own tracks, proving to me that kind of behavior happened a lot in both genders.

So, I have this frustration over what I went through, and some kneejerk reactions that were recently diagnosed as PTSD attached to it. I am at a point where I can understand why the MRA movement is appealing for many men..... Yet, they also turn me away because a lot of them behave in predatory ways that I want absolutely nothing to do with. I am totally against blaming the victim in any circumstance. I've been on the receiving end of that before. I wish that upon nobody.

baby, your anti-woman response deserves nothing but what you got. You gave me nothing constructive or rational, so have that in return! You should go to college and attend discussion 101. Because who responds with memes. KIDS, and apparently hurt men.

It's a fact, that men are rapists, cheaters and dont give a damn about their children. a cold hard fact. you can deny that all you want, and maybe you should if you're a good decent person and you just cant see past yourself. Really you are no better than those feminists, no better AT ALL.