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21 Oct 2014, 8:58 am

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Would some moderator please put an end to the people who post responses that fill the page with quotations? It is very annoying. There is no need to dissect each argument point by point. It is really not that difficult to just formulate a concise response. I know I have seen a moderator address this issue before, but the offenders, thinking themselves above the rules and terms of WP, just refuse to comply. What they want to do is drown out the truth because they have no real response to truth and facts other than to try to shout over everyone who disagrees with them. And anyone who disagrees with them who uses the same tactics will be threatened with banishment by the moderators who side with above mentioned members members instead of remaining impartial.

A much higher quality of argument can be achieved with a point-by-point rebuttal. It's also much easier to follow the conversation. There is certainly a need and I would invite you to point out where in the "rules and terms of WP" is says that you can't do it.

Point-by-point responses do not "drown out the truth". If anything they come closer to the truth than the blind, blithe assertions made by the more-partisan or less-evidence-based posters.

The bigger problem is people quoting a long post and giving a one-line response, or not trimming out embedded quotes. This is worst in the Film And TV forum but still applies here.


Glory be, for once I agree with you!


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21 Oct 2014, 9:27 am

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I don't get it. :?


I took it to mean he thinks you and I are the same person. As you've had your picture on your avatar before, and I've had pictures of my family and I on another thread, I think that notion could be easily discounted. But if that delusion drives him buggy, I will do all I can to indulge him in it! :P :twisted:

I don't understand people who are one way in person but another way online.


It's easy to be rude online. No responsibility for good manners.

at the risk of seeming dense- the difference is, this person KNOWS me, has MET me, and was exceedingly easy to like, but online I don't get the same thing. THAT is what I have a hard time understanding. what has changed just because each party is on one end of a wire?


Having been in several threads where you and "this person" were involved, it's plainly clear that "this person" has been far more fair and civil to you than you have been to him. I could type several paragraphs on what I've observed but to synopsize, in your eyes anyone not a liberal/democrat or at least scathingly critical of all things conservative/republican is out to get you personally.


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21 Oct 2014, 10:03 am

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Would some moderator please put an end to the people who post responses that fill the page with quotations? It is very annoying. There is no need to dissect each argument point by point. It is really not that difficult to just formulate a concise response. I know I have seen a moderator address this issue before, but the offenders, thinking themselves above the rules and terms of WP, just refuse to comply. What they want to do is drown out the truth because they have no real response to truth and facts other than to try to shout over everyone who disagrees with them. And anyone who disagrees with them who uses the same tactics will be threatened with banishment by the moderators who side with above mentioned members members instead of remaining impartial.


1. You're not even in this thread.
2. There's nothing in the terms of use about fisking as it is common practice for tidily addressing multiple points. It's no one's fault if you have a persecution complex.
3. Where's the shouting? THIS IS SHOUTING ON A MESSAGE BOARD OR LIVE CHAT, not this.
4. If I'm not mistaken, one of the mods has chastised you for accusing them of being partisan when you got all butthurt over one of the gun rights debate threads that you started and resorted to personal attacks.
5. Three mods have resigned in the past week or so.


Fisting you say? (In my best William Burroughs imitation.)


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21 Oct 2014, 10:05 am

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Is there an echo in here? If I didn't know for a fact that one of you existed, I'd suspect something.


If you want to think blabby and I are the same person, you just go right ahead.


Jesus Christ, I know you can read because your responses sorta follow my posts, but come on, this isn't the first time, tenth time, or fiftieth time you've completely misread a post of mine. Clearly, since I've met Blabby, and say so right in the post, I don't think you're the same person, I just think someone could make that mistake watching you two talk, it's like watching someone talk to themself.


You said reading blabby and me post to one another was like listening to one person talking to himself - THAT'S THE VERY DEFINITION OF BEING ONE PERSON!


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21 Oct 2014, 12:02 pm

/\ More like siamese twins joined at the brain.


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21 Oct 2014, 1:30 pm

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/\ More like siamese twins joined at the brain.



Well, then we could be on American Horror Story: Freak Show.


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21 Oct 2014, 1:31 pm

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Would some moderator please put an end to the people who post responses that fill the page with quotations? It is very annoying. There is no need to dissect each argument point by point. It is really not that difficult to just formulate a concise response. I know I have seen a moderator address this issue before, but the offenders, thinking themselves above the rules and terms of WP, just refuse to comply. What they want to do is drown out the truth because they have no real response to truth and facts other than to try to shout over everyone who disagrees with them. And anyone who disagrees with them who uses the same tactics will be threatened with banishment by the moderators who side with above mentioned members members instead of remaining impartial.

thank you :hail: it would surely be nice if more people were willing to discuss gov. nikki.



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21 Oct 2014, 1:34 pm

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khaoz wrote:
Would some moderator please put an end to the people who post responses that fill the page with quotations? It is very annoying. There is no need to dissect each argument point by point. It is really not that difficult to just formulate a concise response. I know I have seen a moderator address this issue before, but the offenders, thinking themselves above the rules and terms of WP, just refuse to comply. What they want to do is drown out the truth because they have no real response to truth and facts other than to try to shout over everyone who disagrees with them. And anyone who disagrees with them who uses the same tactics will be threatened with banishment by the moderators who side with above mentioned members members instead of remaining impartial.

thank you :hail: it would surely be nice if more people were willing to discuss gov. nikki.


I fear this has broken down into such a personal slugfest that the governor has been forgotten. :cry:


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21 Oct 2014, 1:36 pm

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Would some moderator please put an end to the people who post responses that fill the page with quotations? It is very annoying. There is no need to dissect each argument point by point. It is really not that difficult to just formulate a concise response. I know I have seen a moderator address this issue before, but the offenders, thinking themselves above the rules and terms of WP, just refuse to comply. What they want to do is drown out the truth because they have no real response to truth and facts other than to try to shout over everyone who disagrees with them. And anyone who disagrees with them who uses the same tactics will be threatened with banishment by the moderators who side with above mentioned members members instead of remaining impartial.

thank you :hail: it would surely be nice if more people were willing to discuss gov. nikki.


I fear this has broken down into such a personal slugfest that the governor has been forgotten. :cry:

'tis unfortunate that people refuse to get along. I just don't get how so many people can support pols who are working against their interests? is the horatio alger meme ["get rich or die trying"] that strong?



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21 Oct 2014, 1:36 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
khaoz wrote:
Would some moderator please put an end to the people who post responses that fill the page with quotations? It is very annoying. There is no need to dissect each argument point by point. It is really not that difficult to just formulate a concise response. I know I have seen a moderator address this issue before, but the offenders, thinking themselves above the rules and terms of WP, just refuse to comply. What they want to do is drown out the truth because they have no real response to truth and facts other than to try to shout over everyone who disagrees with them. And anyone who disagrees with them who uses the same tactics will be threatened with banishment by the moderators who side with above mentioned members members instead of remaining impartial.

thank you :hail: it would surely be nice if more people were willing to discuss gov. nikki.


I fear this has broken down into such a personal slugfest that the governor has been forgotten. :cry:


Yes, if I may butt in a bit, would you mind, dear folks, to direct your attentions to the subject of this thread?



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21 Oct 2014, 1:46 pm

http://www.wistv.com/story/21284716/pol ... ting-rises

! !! I just don't grok those people. :scratch: :shrug: most people would flee from punishment but in that state they seem to ask for more. you can lead a horse to water.....



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21 Oct 2014, 2:22 pm

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Governor Haley's spokesman said the governor is happy with the results. "Gov. Haley has always said that poll numbers go up and down," said Rob Godfrey. "But her focus is on the state's jobs numbers, and she's thrilled that they keep getting better and better."


What part of people being satisfied with their governor don't you understand?
What part of J-O-B-S don't you understand?
You don't live in S. Carolina so why the obsession?


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21 Oct 2014, 2:50 pm

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From the article:
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Governor Haley's spokesman said the governor is happy with the results. "Gov. Haley has always said that poll numbers go up and down," said Rob Godfrey. "But her focus is on the state's jobs numbers, and she's thrilled that they keep getting better and better."

What part of people being satisfied with their governor don't you understand?
What part of J-O-B-S don't you understand?
You don't live in S. Carolina so why the obsession?

Having worked in politics for 30+ years, I can say that it is just that time of the year when sycophants of all political parties smoke too much of their own dope and start taking aim at anything moving. It usually takes until Thanksgiving for political PMS to end. It also peaks around the time of the State of the Union speeches, legislative sessions and summertime conventions.


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21 Oct 2014, 3:39 pm

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Governor Haley's spokesman said the governor is happy with the results. "Gov. Haley has always said that poll numbers go up and down," said Rob Godfrey. "But her focus is on the state's jobs numbers, and she's thrilled that they keep getting better and better."


What part of people being satisfied with their governor don't you understand?
What part of J-O-B-S don't you understand?
You don't live in S. Carolina so why the obsession?


And yet almost half the citizens there approve of the President's job, and hold congress in low regard. Plus tea baggers are much less popular there, now. Doesn't that just irk your conservative sensibilities?


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Governor Haley's spokesman said the governor is happy with the results. "Gov. Haley has always said that poll numbers go up and down," said Rob Godfrey. "But her focus is on the state's jobs numbers, and she's thrilled that they keep getting better and better."


What part of people being satisfied with their governor don't you understand?
What part of J-O-B-S don't you understand?
You don't live in S. Carolina so why the obsession?


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And yet almost half the citizens there approve of the President's job, and hold congress in low regard.

It's still a red state and will probably continue to be for the next several elections. If it doesnt i'll still sleep good.

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Plus tea baggers are much less popular there, now.

No s**t. :roll:
The Tea Party got hijacked by the wrong people early on so therefor it's losing and has been losing it's grassroots members.

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Doesn't that just irk your conservative sensibilities?

If I were half as blindly partisan as you are it probably would irk me but that's not the case.
Besides, I don't live in S. Carolina and never have.

Are you by chance trying to take over for ArantPariah?


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21 Oct 2014, 5:46 pm

As far as I'm concerned, the governor simply represents the will of the people, so if the citizens want that flag to fly, that's the position she should take; I take her comments on it not costing them business as just that, pointing out that the policy isn't costing the state any money, as some opponents of flying like to claim.


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