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11 Dec 2015, 3:11 am

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Considering the possibility of a Republican win, I'd like to see the most competent, sanest candidate, which is probably John Kasich.

Even then, you'd still be stuck with a President lacking the proficiency in English to read the Establishment Clause of the 1st Amendment to the United States Constitution:

Source: Mr. Antidisestablishmentarianism (includes Kasich's exact quote)

... And for the lulz..

While Kasich insists that Judeo-Christian values are (as quoted in the link) "human rights, democracy, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and freedom of association", this is what happened *the last time* the US government explicitly decided to back Judeo-Christian values:

1996 House of Representatives Report on the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) wrote:
Civil laws that permit only heterosexual marriage reflect and honor a collective moral judgment about human sexuality. This judgment entails both moral disapproval of homosexuality, and a moral conviction that heterosexuality better comports with traditional (especially Judeo-Christian) morality.

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... that being said, Kasich got nothing on Trump when it comes to the 1st Amendment...

The Man Who Will Make America Great Again wrote:
"We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that Internet up in some way. Somebody will say, 'Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people."

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... first he came for the illegal immigrants... Then he came for the Muslims...



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11 Dec 2015, 9:00 am

So on the internet treating ISIS like kiddie porn is wrong?

The Lefts response to everything is everything you think is wrong, and you are a Racist.

In less than a year we will elect someone to guide America for four years.

ISIS has struck in France and California recently, it is just beginning.

We know for sure that ISIS has 90 pounds of radioisotopes. Some from a research lab in Iraq, some from medical centers. Five pounds would be a lot in a dirty bomb. One pound would cause a large area to be off limits to humans. Ground to a fine powder, something breathed, the best defense would be to close off the area, for a long time.

For the non bombers, a dirty bomb is radioactive material and fire crackers, like Boston, but the result is worse than an atomic bomb, over a small area. Consider it super fallout. No one could enter say, Central Park in New York, for a few hundred years. Cleanup is impossible.

Imagine the World Trade Towers, with the rubble too radioactive for humans to get near. It would not stay in one place, when the wind blows it spreads, and one Atom inhaled is death, slow and horrible.

"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice." Barry Goldwater.

We have to respond to the threat, hopefully it never happens, but we are dealing with intelligent media sophisticated people who post videos of cutting peoples heads off.

We missed the moment, but my own take on 9/11 was, no Muslim can fly. A total ban. They can take ships, trains, busses, but they are forever banned from the sky. A whole people blocked from using modern technology because their religion is against it. Excessive? Perhaps, but it would have brought up the question, do you want to be part of our world, or destroy it?

In all surveys, they have said they wish to destroy us. 25% of American Muslims say that violence against Americans is permitted as part of Global Jihad. 51% say that Muslims in America should be ruled by Sharia.

An even larger percentage say that America has to be replaced by Islam.

I do not think we need more of them.

While some have become American, it is their children who become radicalized. Second generation have been most of our internal attacks.

We rightfully condemn Mexicans who kill Americans, but none of them has done so for political reasons. None for religious reasons.

Some people, we should ban, and others, in the country, Citizens, should be hung.



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11 Dec 2015, 9:36 am

Legally, we can discriminate however we want when it comes to immigration and who we let in this country. This has been confirmed by congress and the supreme court, non-citizens are not entitled to US constitutional rights outside US territory. Calvin Coolidge signed the Immigration Act of 1924 that metered annual number of immigrants from any one country to 2% of the current population from that country already living here. It also banned immigration from Asia entirely. What Trump proposed was quintessentially American if you know history. This was the law of the land until 1965; FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, and JFK. I have no interest in a humanitarian immigration policy, I care about my quality of life and think this government should stop "worrying" about these people in other countries when we're failing our own downtrodden as it is.

If multiculturalism is so great then what about our own? Why can't we preserve our own culture? Only the most backward third world cultures are worth preserving? We can have an open border policy with Muslims when Israel and Japan open theirs. I think that the Syrian Christians and other persecuted minorities do not pose a security threat and will have a much easier time integrating some Salafi. Big business or some bleeding heart shouldn't dictate our immigration policies, look at Europe and say you want the same problem where the number of ISIS fighters that are EU citizens are in the five figures. More British Muslims join ISIS in the UK than they do the British military, it is a scary unmanageable situation in Europe right now. Merkel is destroying the continent, the EU is going up in flames. The UK should leave, France probably will as well, it's all coming apart.

We need an immigration policy that fits the interests of the American people, not the Democratic Party or the Chamber of Commerce or some weird cabal of robed dudes in Eyes Wide Shut masks that worship a goat headed god. It is our right to make these decisions.



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11 Dec 2015, 9:55 am

Just because a practice is traditionally "American" does not make the practice right.

Remember, the United States of America was founded on the principles of slavery, subjugation of women, and conquest by genocide - these are also traditional American practices. Shall we bring them back, too?

And for those who claim that America was founded on "Christian" values, you're wrong! While the Colonies of England in America were founded on Puritan Christian values, the Puritans eventually lost control to secular forces long before the first shot of the American Revolution was fired.



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11 Dec 2015, 10:01 am

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Hello?! Anyone have any better ideas? All the current president can come up with is taking away our guns more. He's already decreased our country's armed forces by sending them everywhere else in the world but here in America! Anyone could take us over - we are like sitting ducks! So someone on the Left better come up with some brilliant ideas instead of just calling names!

I realize you are just a Trump supporter, so there are many things you don't know, but the military isn't allowed to operate domestically due to the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878.



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11 Dec 2015, 11:09 am

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Just because a practice is traditionally "American" does not make the practice right.

Remember, the United States of America was founded on the principles of slavery, subjugation of women, and conquest by genocide - these are also traditional American practices. Shall we bring them back, too?

And for those who claim that America was founded on "Christian" values, you're wrong! While the Colonies of England in America were founded on Puritan Christian values, the Puritans eventually lost control to secular forces long before the first shot of the American Revolution was fired.



It's in response to those that say that this goes against American values, no these are are American values. Personally I don't think the United States before 1965 was such a bad place, if you think about when this country stagnated and started to decline it would probably be right around then.

I see no problem with deciding who to let in and who to not, I think the potential to integrate and not upset national unity are more important qualifications than who will vote for X party or the economic interests of thtose that have destroyed American industry and workers. Now, I think there are some people on Wall Street, Silicon Valley, and the Beltway that probably should have their citizenship stripped too but I make no qualms about being an extremist, you can reference the great Barry Goldwater quote if you like.

No, I do not want to import millions of Muslims into this country because the fascists are already in power! What they need is a fifth column, it's all controlled opposition, oh we have no choice but to expand mass surveillance and the rapidly militarizing police state! Now about your guns... We're not all so stupid.



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11 Dec 2015, 11:14 am

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nurseangela wrote:
Hello?! Anyone have any better ideas? All the current president can come up with is taking away our guns more. He's already decreased our country's armed forces by sending them everywhere else in the world but here in America! Anyone could take us over - we are like sitting ducks! So someone on the Left better come up with some brilliant ideas instead of just calling names!

I realize you are just a Trump supporter, so there are many things you don't know, but the military isn't allowed to operate domestically due to the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878.


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11 Dec 2015, 11:30 am

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I don't equate Trump with Hitler.....but the guy has a penchant for saying really stupid things.

Imagine if he were at a summit meeting? Imagine the offense he could cause?

Talk about international incidents!

Trump didn't turn his daddy's millions into billions being stupid.

Trump is GREAT at reading his audience and pandering to them.

I don't think Trump is Hitlerian, but what he's doing right now, manipulating the mob by scapegoating muslims, comes rigth out of the fascist playbook.


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11 Dec 2015, 11:44 am

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the fascists are already in power! What they need is a fifth column

quoted for irony.


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11 Dec 2015, 12:03 pm

Care to respond to the whole post or do you just want to be quipy?



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11 Dec 2015, 12:07 pm

GGPViper wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Considering the possibility of a Republican win, I'd like to see the most competent, sanest candidate, which is probably John Kasich.

Even then, you'd still be stuck with a President lacking the proficiency in English to read the Establishment Clause of the 1st Amendment to the United States Constitution:

Source: Mr. Antidisestablishmentarianism (includes Kasich's exact quote)

... And for the lulz..

While Kasich insists that Judeo-Christian values are (as quoted in the link) "human rights, democracy, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and freedom of association", this is what happened *the last time* the US government explicitly decided to back Judeo-Christian values:

1996 House of Representatives Report on the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) wrote:
Civil laws that permit only heterosexual marriage reflect and honor a collective moral judgment about human sexuality. This judgment entails both moral disapproval of homosexuality, and a moral conviction that heterosexuality better comports with traditional (especially Judeo-Christian) morality.

Source: A**holes

... that being said, Kasich got nothing on Trump when it comes to the 1st Amendment...

The Man Who Will Make America Great Again wrote:
"We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that Internet up in some way. Somebody will say, 'Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people."

Source: The Man Who Will Make America Great Again

... first he came for the illegal immigrants... Then he came for the Muslims...



Well, let's put it this way: the other Republican candidates make Kasich look good. :lol:


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11 Dec 2015, 5:32 pm

Is this how the Left wins an election? (Intended as a joke my ass. This is how the Left really thinks - dirty)

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29237 ... suggesting


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11 Dec 2015, 5:36 pm

Both the Left and the Right fight dirty.

Trump might not be dumb---but he does say stupid things.

There is an element of the Fascist to him--but I don't believe he advocates the extermination of multiple races of people.

I think he's a clown, a buffoon, etc. I don't feel an incentive to defend the guy.



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11 Dec 2015, 8:59 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Both the Left and the Right fight dirty.

Trump might not be dumb---but he does say stupid things.

There is an element of the Fascist to him--but I don't believe he advocates the extermination of multiple races of people.

I think he's a clown, a buffoon, etc. I don't feel an incentive to defend the guy.


Actually, Mr. K, what that guy said is illegal in the state of Kansas - he should be in jail. That's why he stepped down. And like it says in the article, some people might take him literally and decide to carry out his threat themselves. So far, I haven't heard anyone on the Right saying such things.


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12 Dec 2015, 12:26 am

I'm sure no one would have taken it seriously, Angela.

But it was a trifle insensitive so soon after the tragic events in Colorado Springs in which three people lost their lives.


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12 Dec 2015, 3:29 am

If it gets you what you want, saying stupid things is only smart.


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