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11 Feb 2016, 9:48 pm

100000fireflies wrote:
Wordpress. Not remotely factual or empirical despite the word "FACT" being typed.


...did you actually look at the references? :?

And yes, it occurs to me that a lot of this page has racial slurs, though pretty much all of the facts listed are rooted in studies.

An edit, wanted to add this in;

"Black and the White 21⁄2- to 6-year-old children in the U.S. standardization sample
of the Differential Aptitude Scale have a 1 standard deviation mean difference. No
data are available for East Asian children at the youngest ages. On the Differential
Aptitude Battery, by age 6, however, the average IQ of East Asian children is 107,
compared with 103 for White children and 89 for Black children (Lynn, 1996).
The size of the average Black–White difference does not change significantly over
the developmental period from 3 years of age and beyond (see Jensen, 1974,
1998b).
Serious questions have been raised about the validity of using tests for racial
comparisons. However, because the tests show similar patterns of internal item
consistency and predictive validity for all groups, and because the same differences
are found on relatively culture-free tests, many psychometricians have
concluded that the tests are valid measures of racial differences, at least among
people sharing the culture of the authors of the test (Jensen, 1980; Wigdor &
Garner, 1982). This conclusion was endorsed by the APA Task Force’s statement:
“Considered as predictors of future performance, the tests do not seem to be
biased against African Americans” (Neisser et al., 1996, p. 93)."


https://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/3 ... 0years.pdf


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11 Feb 2016, 9:58 pm

Did you?

Soldier of Fortune, The Dangers of Interracial Marriage, America: Free, White and Christian, and How the Greatest White Nations Were Mongrelized are not scientific sources.


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11 Feb 2016, 10:00 pm

100000fireflies wrote:
Did you?

Soldier of Fortune, The Dangers of Interracial Marriage, America: Free, White and Christian, and How the Greatest White Nations Were Mongrelized are not scientific sources.



See above^

"Black and the White 21⁄2- to 6-year-old children in the U.S. standardization sample
of the Differential Aptitude Scale have a 1 standard deviation mean difference. No
data are available for East Asian children at the youngest ages. On the Differential
Aptitude Battery, by age 6, however, the average IQ of East Asian children is 107,
compared with 103 for White children and 89 for Black children (Lynn, 1996).
The size of the average Black–White difference does not change significantly over
the developmental period from 3 years of age and beyond (see Jensen, 1974,
1998b).
Serious questions have been raised about the validity of using tests for racial
comparisons. However, because the tests show similar patterns of internal item
consistency and predictive validity for all groups, and because the same differences
are found on relatively culture-free tests, many psychometricians have
concluded that the tests are valid measures of racial differences, at least among
people sharing the culture of the authors of the test (Jensen, 1980; Wigdor &
Garner, 1982). This conclusion was endorsed by the APA Task Force’s statement:
“Considered as predictors of future performance, the tests do not seem to be
biased against African Americans” (Neisser et al., 1996, p. 93)."


https://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/3 ... 0years.pdf


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11 Feb 2016, 11:08 pm

I don't generally watch these things, but I watched the superbowl half time show, with Beyonce's corporatist black pride shtick and dome effeminate white guy. Were her Black Panther Mousekateer backup dancers supposed to be referencing the original Marxist Panthers, or the phase 2 version with zero class consciousness? I'm just curious. I actually dislike both versions.

Beyonce's line about Black women aspiring to be like Bill Gates was really inspiring, especially in a decaying capitalism, where the tech industry acts as an appendage of the surveillance state.

On a side note, please stop trying to come up with justifications for why it's okay to hate on people for their race. I think the problem is that not a lot of people grow up around different races that share the same cultural background as them. If they did, they would know that racial differences are only skin deep.



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11 Feb 2016, 11:16 pm

TheExodus wrote:
100000fireflies wrote:
Did you?

Soldier of Fortune, The Dangers of Interracial Marriage, America: Free, White and Christian, and How the Greatest White Nations Were Mongrelized are not scientific sources.



See above^

"Black and the White 21⁄2- to 6-year-old children in the U.S. standardization sample
of the Differential Aptitude Scale have a 1 standard deviation mean difference. No
data are available for East Asian children at the youngest ages. On the Differential
Aptitude Battery, by age 6, however, the average IQ of East Asian children is 107,
compared with 103 for White children and 89 for Black children (Lynn, 1996).
The size of the average Black–White difference does not change significantly over
the developmental period from 3 years of age and beyond (see Jensen, 1974,
1998b).
Serious questions have been raised about the validity of using tests for racial
comparisons. However, because the tests show similar patterns of internal item
consistency and predictive validity for all groups, and because the same differences
are found on relatively culture-free tests, many psychometricians have
concluded that the tests are valid measures of racial differences, at least among
people sharing the culture of the authors of the test (Jensen, 1980; Wigdor &
Garner, 1982). This conclusion was endorsed by the APA Task Force’s statement:
“Considered as predictors of future performance, the tests do not seem to be
biased against African Americans” (Neisser et al., 1996, p. 93)."


https://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/3 ... 0years.pdf


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/02/scien ... .html?_r=0
arthur jensen didn't really do very well in accounting for all the variables, this is not a credible source.



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11 Feb 2016, 11:17 pm

Nebogipfel wrote:
I don't generally watch these things, but I watched the superbowl half time show, with Beyonce's corporatist black pride shtick and the effeminate white guy. Were the Black Panther Mousekateer backup dancers supposed to be the original Marxist Panthers, or the post cointelpro phase 2 version with zero class consciousness? I actually dislike both versions. I'm just curious.

Beyonce's line about Black women aspiring to be like Bill Gates was really inspiring, especially in a decaying capitalism, where the tech industry acts as an appendage of the surveillance state. Malcolm X would have really approved of this performance.

On a side note, please stop trying to come up with justifications for why it's okay to hate on people for their race. I think the problem is that not a lot of people grow up around different races that share the same cultural background as them. If they did, they would learn that racial differences are only skin deep.

there's only one race of humans. If anyone tells you otherwise, they're either ignorant or lying.
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https://europeanmediacentre.wordpress.com/2013/08/19/100-facts-for-differences-between-human-races/
nice blog you have there. where's the link you were indicating was your source?

edit: oh here it is, at the bottom of this blog..

http://whiteresister.com/index.php/anal ... uman-races
oh...



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11 Feb 2016, 11:26 pm

TheExodus wrote:
I have black friends. Or do you think I'm a colonist time traveler come to enslave the blacks once more?


I think you should show your sources to your black friends (if they actually exist, which I seriously doubt). See if they are still willing to be your friends when they find out what you really think about them.



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11 Feb 2016, 11:59 pm

TheExodus wrote:

That is quite an interesting website:

Here are a few more gems from it:

European Independant Media Centre wrote:
An interesting passage from one of my favourite William Shakespeare plays, The Merchant of Venice.
This passage gives a good insight into how wise the English once were to the deceptive, manipulatively shrewd and malicious ways of the Jew.

European Independant Media Centre wrote:
But of course that was in the days before these “Chosen People” had our governments in their pockets and made politicians create laws banning criticism of Jews as “Hate Speech”.

They have however deleted other great literary works from history. Great parts of our culture, gone because they expose this insidious parasite for what it is, and at all costs we, the white European cattle must never again wake up from our waking coma (look what happened last time we woke up to them).

European Independant Media Centre wrote:
The “Holocaust” has been proved to be a lie, but the Jews will not allow anyone to mess with their money, nor their victim status, so woe betide any Goyim who dares to point out the outrageous lies and scams of these people.


Source:
https://europeanmediacentre.wordpress.c ... our-minds/
https://europeanmediacentre.wordpress.c ... survivors/

I'll spare everyone the other gems of the website... such as the typical caricatures of hook-nosed greedy Jews and the celebrations of Nazi Germany and Apartheid...



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12 Feb 2016, 2:17 am

The part i do like best is that as per Norton, the white power site they reference for the many <cough> "facts" is Full of viruses and trojans. It gives me great joy to think of the nazi a$$wipes who go there getting their computers owned and their personal files exposed.


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12 Feb 2016, 3:40 am

TheExodus wrote:

Much understood. The studies were conducted in a time of rife racism and could easily have been skewed. However, I believe all of the studies attached to these facts have been conducted at earliest around the 1940's and 50's.

FACT #3: The I.Q.’s of American Negroes are from 15 to 20 points, on average, below those of American Whites. (26) (16) (18) (22)

FACT #4: These Black\White differences have been demonstrated repeatedly by every test ever conducted by every branch of the U.S. Military, every state, county, and local school board, the U.S. Dept. of Education, etc. The same ratio of difference has held true over a 40 year period. (18) (26) (24)

FACT #5: With an average I.Q. of 85, only 16% of Blacks score over 100, while half the White population does. The Negro overlap of White median I.Q.’s ranges from 10 to 25 percent– equality would require 50 percent. (31) (27) (16)

FACT #17: Among human races numerous studies have been made of the comparative weight of White and Negro brains with results that fell within the range of about an 8-12 percent lower weight for the Negro brain. Such studies have been conducted by Bean, Pearl, Vint, Tilney, Gordon, Todd, and others. (23) (27)

FACT #18: In addition to the difference in brain weight, the Negro brain grows less after puberty than the white. Though the Negro brain and nervous system mature faster than the white brain, its development is arrested at an earlier age which limits further intellectual advancement. (22) (27)

FACT #19: The thickness of the supragranular layer (the outside layer) of the Negro brain is about 15 percent thinner, and its convolutions are fewer and more simple, on average, than that of the White brain. (9)

FACT #20: The frontal lobes of the Negro brain, responsible for abstract conceptional reasoning, are smaller relative to body weight, less fissured, and less complex than those of the White brain. (9) (27) (23) (22)

(Number 4 is most notable; there have been studies numerous times that have addressed the same result, in modern day).


By the way, you still haven't gotten back to me on the wage gap thing.

EDIT; forgot the link. :lol:

https://europeanmediacentre.wordpress.c ... man-races/




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12 Feb 2016, 8:15 am

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I'm exhausted and not feeling the least bit generous. Our resident know-it-all teenager, TheExodus, has been given a one month ban.

Seeing as I doubt he'll improve his behavior in that time, I expect I'll be smacking down a permanent ban in 30 days time.

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12 Feb 2016, 8:26 am

GGPViper wrote:
TheExodus wrote:

That is quite an interesting website:

Here are a few more gems from it:

European Independant Media Centre wrote:
An interesting passage from one of my favourite William Shakespeare plays, The Merchant of Venice.
This passage gives a good insight into how wise the English once were to the deceptive, manipulatively shrewd and malicious ways of the Jew.

European Independant Media Centre wrote:
But of course that was in the days before these “Chosen People” had our governments in their pockets and made politicians create laws banning criticism of Jews as “Hate Speech”.

They have however deleted other great literary works from history. Great parts of our culture, gone because they expose this insidious parasite for what it is, and at all costs we, the white European cattle must never again wake up from our waking coma (look what happened last time we woke up to them).

European Independant Media Centre wrote:
The “Holocaust” has been proved to be a lie, but the Jews will not allow anyone to mess with their money, nor their victim status, so woe betide any Goyim who dares to point out the outrageous lies and scams of these people.


Source:
https://europeanmediacentre.wordpress.c ... our-minds/
https://europeanmediacentre.wordpress.c ... survivors/

I'll spare everyone the other gems of the website... such as the typical caricatures of hook-nosed greedy Jews and the celebrations of Nazi Germany and Apartheid...


Wondered when you'd show up to take a whack at the pinata.

Nice having you back, Viper.


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12 Feb 2016, 11:33 am

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I'm exhausted and not feeling the least bit generous. Our resident know-it-all teenager, TheExodus, has been given a one month ban.

Seeing as I doubt he'll improve his behavior in that time, I expect I'll be smacking down a permanent ban in 30 days time.

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I was wondering if he's yet another troll or if he legitimately believes all that racist BS. I'm white but I really hate anti-black racism.



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12 Feb 2016, 12:08 pm

I can't find the source, but I seem to recall reading that the greatest genetic variation in humans is actually between various groups within Africa, which makes sense since the prevailing theory is that we're all descended from splinter groups of emigrating africans. So it's actually even less coherent to say "all black people are X" than it is for the same to be said of other alleged human "races".


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12 Feb 2016, 12:11 pm

Fugu wrote:
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Correlation does imply innate causality, princess.
oh really? so these graphs actually have meaning? woah 8O

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That's neither here nor there. You cannot *prove* anything with statistics. All you can do is show likelyhood. Where there is correlation the next step is to empirically demonstrate the cause.

By your logic we should believe that black Americans are hardwired to be violent ( because blacks commit more violent crimes than whites do in the US ) instead of examining the evidence and considering other explanations for their behavior that are environmental rather than hereditary.



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I'm exhausted and not feeling the least bit generous. Our resident know-it-all teenager, TheExodus, has been given a one month ban.

Seeing as I doubt he'll improve his behavior in that time, I expect I'll be smacking down a permanent ban in 30 days time.

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No one should get a permanent ban. People change. I got a permanent ban on another website and it hurt me deeply. I lost friends there because there was no way for me to return and correct anything. That was over 6 months ago and I still haven't gotten over it. Some Aspies only have these forums for socializing. No matter what someone says, they should never be permanently banned.


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