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17 Jul 2016, 8:56 pm

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These SJW people are our future low wage workers.

The kind of people I feel sorry for when I go to the grocery store or out to eat.

When analyzing their arguments, remember, they have poor abstract reasoning skills, or they would of picked math/science/medicine/STEM.

Also, their opinions likely change very radically in ten years.


So terribly sorry I had to take a "low wage" job in a restaurant to support myself and my physically disabled mother.

Not all of us had the luxury of having a mommy and daddy who could finance our college educations.


Preach. I would have loved to continue with my university education and become a scientist like I planned when I was a child, but it was not and is still not financially possible for me to do so. Must be nice to have everything in life handed to you--then again, it seems to make people who do get everything handed to them turn into self-righteous insensitive jackasses, and I wouldn't want to give up my ability to understand the majority of other people who haven't had everything handed to them in life (because those are the large majority of people out there.)
There are two ways one can take the old "life isn't fair" adage: as a survival tactic, or to pretend that the world somehow is based largely/entirely on individual agency. As the former, it's very useful; as the latter, it's little more than posturing. Even the purest laissez-faire capitalism frees individuals from much of the responsibility involved in manufacturing their own resources.



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18 Jul 2016, 8:02 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
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These SJW people are our future low wage workers.

The kind of people I feel sorry for when I go to the grocery store or out to eat.

When analyzing their arguments, remember, they have poor abstract reasoning skills, or they would of picked math/science/medicine/STEM.

Also, their opinions likely change very radically in ten years.


So terribly sorry I had to take a "low wage" job in a restaurant to support myself and my physically disabled mother.

Not all of us had the luxury of having a mommy and daddy who could finance our college educations.

I used the "GI Bill".

No one needs to rely on their parents. That's why student loan debt is 1.3 trillion.
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/3663 ... ebt-crisis

My mom reminds me how she drove me to Detroit, showed me bums, and said get an education, or become like these people.


Yeah, I used the GI Bill too, sweetie.

You've led an incredibly sheltered existence if you think only "dumb people" end up in low-wage jobs.


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18 Jul 2016, 8:56 am

XFilesGeek wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
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These SJW people are our future low wage workers.

The kind of people I feel sorry for when I go to the grocery store or out to eat.

When analyzing their arguments, remember, they have poor abstract reasoning skills, or they would of picked math/science/medicine/STEM.

Also, their opinions likely change very radically in ten years.


So terribly sorry I had to take a "low wage" job in a restaurant to support myself and my physically disabled mother.

Not all of us had the luxury of having a mommy and daddy who could finance our college educations.

I used the "GI Bill".

No one needs to rely on their parents. That's why student loan debt is 1.3 trillion.
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/3663 ... ebt-crisis

My mom reminds me how she drove me to Detroit, showed me bums, and said get an education, or become like these people.


Yeah, I used the GI Bill too, sweetie.

You've led an incredibly sheltered existence if you think only "dumb people" end up in low-wage jobs.

I have lived a sheltered life, rarely do I go outside.

However, that's not what I said.

I said SJW (people with those degrees) end up in low wage work.

Liberal Arts/Sociology are listed as one of the worst degrees to get.

"10 Worst College Degrees"
http://www.thesimpledollar.com/10-worst ... n-in-2015/



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18 Jul 2016, 9:30 am

You can get a degree in Social Justice Warrioring?



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18 Jul 2016, 10:46 am

AspE wrote:
You can get a degree in Social Justice Warrioring?

Gender Studies degree---> fight the patriarchy
African Studies degree ---> fight white oppression
Environmental Studies degree ---> fight global warming
Sociology Degree ---> fight white privilege
Social Advocacy Studies ---> fight, fight, fight

Here is an example ...
https://www.umass.edu/uww/areas-study/a ... al-justice



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18 Jul 2016, 11:34 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
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You can get a degree in Social Justice Warrioring?

Gender Studies degree---> fight the patriarchy
African Studies degree ---> fight white oppression
Environmental Studies degree ---> fight global warming
Sociology Degree ---> fight white privilege
Social Advocacy Studies ---> fight, fight, fight

Here is an example ...
https://www.umass.edu/uww/areas-study/a ... al-justice

So, SJW isn't just people people taking things too far? It's now all higher level education? Are you sure anti-SJW isn't just a conservative anti-intellectual movement?



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18 Jul 2016, 12:45 pm

AspE wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
AspE wrote:
You can get a degree in Social Justice Warrioring?

Gender Studies degree---> fight the patriarchy
African Studies degree ---> fight white oppression
Environmental Studies degree ---> fight global warming
Sociology Degree ---> fight white privilege
Social Advocacy Studies ---> fight, fight, fight

Here is an example ...
https://www.umass.edu/uww/areas-study/a ... al-justice

So, SJW isn't just people people taking things too far? It's now all higher level education? Are you sure anti-SJW isn't just a conservative anti-intellectual movement?


Ding-ding-ding. I think you've got it now. :lol:



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18 Jul 2016, 12:53 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
AspE wrote:
You can get a degree in Social Justice Warrioring?

Gender Studies degree---> fight the patriarchy
African Studies degree ---> fight white oppression
Environmental Studies degree ---> fight global warming
Sociology Degree ---> fight white privilege
Social Advocacy Studies ---> fight, fight, fight

Here is an example ...
https://www.umass.edu/uww/areas-study/a ... al-justice


applied Marxism

this is the origin all these "______ studies"


They can call it anti-intellectual but there isn't anything intellectual about communism, it's never the math or physics majors that cause problems.

it's a crime that they've literally collared these foolish children into hundreds of thousands of dollars for degrees that will get them no jobs and indoctrinates them against their own country and culture.



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18 Jul 2016, 12:59 pm

Jacoby wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
AspE wrote:
You can get a degree in Social Justice Warrioring?

Gender Studies degree---> fight the patriarchy
African Studies degree ---> fight white oppression
Environmental Studies degree ---> fight global warming
Sociology Degree ---> fight white privilege
Social Advocacy Studies ---> fight, fight, fight

Here is an example ...
https://www.umass.edu/uww/areas-study/a ... al-justice


applied Marxism

this is the origin all these "______ studies"


They can call it anti-intellectual but there isn't anything intellectual about communism, it's never the math or physics majors that cause problems.

it's a crime that they've literally collared these foolish children into hundreds of thousands of dollars for degrees that will get them no jobs and indoctrinates them against their own country and culture.


Just like trump collared these foolish wannabe real estate moguls into spending tens of thousands of dollars for useless seminars at Trump U.



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18 Jul 2016, 1:08 pm

Lukeda420 wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
AspE wrote:
You can get a degree in Social Justice Warrioring?

Gender Studies degree---> fight the patriarchy
African Studies degree ---> fight white oppression
Environmental Studies degree ---> fight global warming
Sociology Degree ---> fight white privilege
Social Advocacy Studies ---> fight, fight, fight

Here is an example ...
https://www.umass.edu/uww/areas-study/a ... al-justice


applied Marxism

this is the origin all these "______ studies"


They can call it anti-intellectual but there isn't anything intellectual about communism, it's never the math or physics majors that cause problems.

it's a crime that they've literally collared these foolish children into hundreds of thousands of dollars for degrees that will get them no jobs and indoctrinates them against their own country and culture.


Just like trump collared these foolish wannabe real estate moguls into spending tens of thousands of dollars for useless seminars at Trump U.



Those people paid out of pocket, they weren't given loans from applications their parents filled out that are impossible to discharge in perpetuity. Trump isn't responsible for them succeeding or failing at real estate which is highly dependent on capital to begin with, Trump is not responsible for the housing market collapsing. Not the same as literal Marxist derived subversion.



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18 Jul 2016, 1:16 pm

Any education that isn't specifically dedicated to training folks for careers obviously lacks all value and purpose - amidoinitrite?

Let's see what else we can misidentify as Marxism, maybe in a few pages we'll have the term completely stripped of any and all meaning beyond 'stuff I don't approve of'.


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18 Jul 2016, 1:17 pm

I find it hilarious and telling that you consider charging up to 34,000 dollars for falsely advertised useless seminars is just A.O.K.

Again if this was a school about real estate than it should have been able to advise it's students about capitals and market forces. Also if Trump and his "hand picked" (lie) professors should have been able to see the crash coming and advise their students accordingly. So either Trump and his "school" were grossly incompetent or it was a scam and he didn't care if anybody who attended succeeded or failed. Either way it's not good.



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18 Jul 2016, 1:49 pm

Trump believes in P.T. Barnum's statement that there's a sucker born every minute.

He doesn't feel responsible for the repercussions felt by the suck-ee.



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18 Jul 2016, 1:56 pm

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Any education that isn't specifically dedicated to training folks for careers obviously lacks all value and purpose - amidoinitrite?

That's what the colleges argue.

They argue education has value all itself.

In 2011, Northwestern University student graduates with 200k in debt with 4 year Sociology degree.
http://gawker.com/5822160/what-happened ... dent-loans



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18 Jul 2016, 2:07 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
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Any education that isn't specifically dedicated to training folks for careers obviously lacks all value and purpose - amidoinitrite?

That's what the colleges argue.

They argue education has value all itself.

In 2011, Northwestern University student graduates with 200k in debt with 4 year Sociology degree.
http://gawker.com/5822160/what-happened ... dent-loans


Not exactly, they still argue (correctly, I might add) that college graduates earn more than non-graduates.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/censusand ... gepays.htm

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/02/ ... o-college/



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18 Jul 2016, 2:23 pm

Unemployment rates among college graduates is anywhere from 25% to 50% of the unemployment of those who only graduated from high school. People with "some college" don't fare much better than the high school graduates. When overall unemployment was 10%, the college graduate rate was maybe 2-3%.

The gap has now closed somewhat--but there's still a considerable gap between the two educational levels.

This is from the US Census Bureau. Look it up.