SJW and autism

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To say that that Trump is the "next Hitler" is absurd.

However, I believe his buffoonery could lead to major problems down the road.

What Godwin had to say about how his law is used and Trump Hitler comparisons

....Hitler was a socialist?

He was only accepted by the 'conservative elite' after 1933 because the conservative elite had minimal power to begin with - with each passing election typical conservative views faltered and it became a race between the Nazi Party and the Communist Party, both of whom are more or less socialists with varying degrees of marxism by todays standard. The social democrat party - the 'old guard' party, was quickly loosing its power. They staked their bets on Hitler (lesser of two evils) but had minimal effect in his rise to power; it's why he was able to dispose of them so quickly after achieving it.

That said, you easily could compare Nazi Germany to a communist state in more ways then one. It was just masked as a capitalist society, but the extent of crony capitalism (the government had the control to remove all company heads and replace them with party members who would put the party first) more or less achieves the definition of communism - the government - and the Nazi party specifically, had achieved seizing the means of production and redistributing them.

Last edited by docfox on 26 Jan 2017, 10:48 am, edited 1 time in total.

All right, guilty. It's just that this whole election/Trump madness keeps giving me flashbacks to high school. I have the fortunate or unfortunate ability to remember a lot of stuff I read or heard years and years ago, and we did delve rather deeply into the interwar years and WW2, reading a lot of original sources. Trump gives me the heebiejeebies.

I particularly recall the testimony of one woman, as far as I can remember she was part of the German aristocracy, and she was invited to a dinner where Hitler was also a guest. They regarded him as common and vulgar, rather a bit of a frothing lunatic. She said he kept quiet all through the dinner, and at the end he was invited to hold a speech, in which he started attacking various 'traitors'. She said that his whole being was transformed; he electrified people with his energy and piercing eyes, and even his crazy mannerisms. She was shocked to see the influence he had on people.

Also, the Republican party of today reminds me a lot of the German Conservatives of the Weimar republic; it's the same aristocratic hubris.

I have little belief in Trump's innate decency, but I suppose that democracy is rather more entrenched in the US than in the Weimar republic.

Ummm, where does socialism come into this discussion?



Being selected as Chancellor was a big thing. Don't underestimate the value of the stamp of approval from the old guard; Germany was a very authoritarian society at the time, and that meant something. And yes, I did mean after 33. I don't mean that they ever agreed with his politics.



I think there is rather a lot of crony capitalism in the US today. That's just how capitalism works in a weak legal system. Except that in the US it's often the other way around, which is hardly democratic.

Sorry for the Godwin moment, guys. It's just the parallels started getting really intrusive.

The 'trump is hitler' comparison when they're literally on opposite ends of the political spectrum. Hitler took the guns, trump wants citizens to have more firearms - hardly what you want if you're planning on being the next Hitler. Hitler was a socialist who heavily regulated the economy to further his agenda, Trump wants to deregulate it - again, hardly what you want if your goal is to be the next authorative hitler. I can go on and on.

Being a authorative ruler - "fascist" - requires a control on the population. Trumps actions are directly resulting in LESS government control on the population - hardly what one would want if their goal is to be the next Hitler.

He was only selected as Chancellor after he steamrolled the 1933 elections. It wasn't a real stamp of approval if they had no real choice but to appease him, and he obviously didn't need them to begin with and everyone knew this.


Elaborate please?

Ok, I'll write all at the end, otherwise it'll get crazy:

1. I don't know about socialism. I didn't bring it up. And I doubt you could find a serious historian who would call Hitler a socialist. From my knowlegde, the socialist dicators tend to have a slightly different flavor than the fascist ones. The core of fascist thinking is 'might is right', which their socialist counterparts are more reluctant to voice, although they might think it. Trump criticizing prisoners of war for getting caught is right in line with this thinking. I don't think anybody really knows what Trump plans to do about the economy. It depends a lot on whether he manages to start a war or not. He may not plan to become a dictator, but it might end up being the most practical option

I don't think we'll see any old fashioned fascist dicatorship, but rather a copying of Putin's Russia:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... erica.html

I wouldn't call Putin either fascist or communist, but democratic is certainly not a word I'd use. There is simply less ideology than there used to be in the past; that doesn't change the feeling of being ruled.

In the former Communist republics, Russia included, it's not so much a question of a ruling dictator as of a ruling class, which the US already has the beginnings of, and where the Trump family are members. All you need is an elite that has special access to politicians, better access to education and all the things you can buy with money. The absolute dominance of the Democratic and Republican parties makes it possible to buy politicians on both sides

2. About Hitler being elected Chancellor, his opponents could have cobbled together a coalition or created some kind of minority government supported by a party or parties outside the government itself. Multiparty democracies have a few more options available than two party systems (and I know the US is not technically a two party system, but for all practical purposes it is).

3. About crony capitalism, Halliburton's role in the Iraq war comes to mind. The way certain companies dominate certain towns. The water scandal in Flint. Again, the way large corporations fund both political parties so as to get special treatment. When govenment becomes weak, businesses becomes strong. So it's really a question of whether you want to be ruled by an elected governement or a corporation only answerable to a board.

Am leaving, have things to do. Have a nice night, guys, and sorry about the Hitler incident.

He does? If Trump wanted a deregulated economy he wouldn't be talking about putting tariffs on imports. It seems like he wants to control the economy and remake it so America's goods are made internally.

I hope concerts consisting of bands from other countries wont be considered 'foriegn imports' and wont have a tariff put on them when they preform here...otherwise I imagine tickets would cost a lot more. I am a metalhead thus lots of music I listen to is from all over because metal is a worldwide thing. I don't agree with this isolationism direction he is going in...I guess I am more of a globalist, imagine that.

And what about the seasonal alpaca store: https://www.facebook.com/alpacaworld1/ at the nearby mall, with handmade products from Peru I think it is, which will be on the other side of that stupid wall he proposes.

i wanna add that i am on tumblr and i am self dx but i have done over 2 years of extensive research, i am 99% positive i am on the autistic spectrum and i have been for a while. i can see where ppl are coming from and how "sjws" are not handling autism correctly, but i dont think just because someone runs a tumblr blog and is self diagnosed means theyre a bad sjw that only feels autistic. i know theyres also a trend with the "are you a ___ autistic or a ___ autistic?" and ppl in the comments are saying its weird/silly and i get tht too not everyone views their autism in a positive light but i like things like this because it makes me feel more comfortable with who i am because other people relate to it and dont take it too seriously so i dont feel isolated. idk i can see why a lot of ppl would see the 'sjw' autism community as obnoxious but it helped me a lot discover who i am and not feel weird bc there are people like me, because a lot of ppl were accepting and didnt accuse me of being fake. maybe there are fakers (i hope not) but i dont think i am. also on the topic of autistic headcanons, alot of the time i project on characters and view them as autistic if i relate to them, i personally try to find a lot of proof or similarities to me/autistic traits but sometimes there are characters like ash's pikachu that i see as autistic for my own personal comfort that dont have any proof (like. pikachu isnt a human! i dont have any evidence that most ppl would agree with, seeing pikachu being sensitive to touch and releasing electric shocks is my only reasonable arguement) but thats just for me personally. i think people that say characters are autistic because they relate to them and i think thats okay. i dont really know if this comment was worth anything but i just wanted to share my opinion on this stuff

SJW's are all around disgusting

I'm on a pop culture forum and they are rabid over there. They literally chant when a Trump supporter is attacked and think they deserve it.

I also come up with autism headcanons for a similar reason. I know that all the characters in these headcanons are probably neurotypical but it's interesting to imagine how they would handle different situations. Like, I'm working on a fanfiction right now with (Equestria Girls) Twilight Sparkle being diagnosed with autism and coming to terms with it. As long as people accept that headcanons are just headcanons and don't get upset if they're disproven or attack people who believe otherwise, I think it's perfectly fine.

If they don't have an official diagnosis, why does this concern you? In a court of law, you can bring up being autistic and they can't. In an academic or work environment you can request provisions for your eccentricity while they may not as easily justify it. In the end being autistic is just a case of struggling to understand the majority of humans as the wiring in the autistic person's brain is about understanding systems, not interactions. If they feel their brain is wired this way, instead of raging at them for daring to self-diagnose, gently encourage them to actually seek psychiatric analysis of their personality. If it is found they really have it, good on you and them for finding it out together.

There is no 'enemy' here, they are not wrong to do what they do.

The W does stand for warrior after all.

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