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02 Feb 2017, 12:44 am

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It's basic human nature. I think those who claim they've evolved beyond it, would have a big problem if a redneck Confederate flag displaying Breitbart reading family moved next to them, even of that family was very polite and friendly. They'd still want them to move somewhere else, to go back where they came from.


Making a lot of assumptions don't you think?

I'm not aware of any case in the history of the western world where people have lobbied to have a racist white person thrown out of a neighborhood...on the hand we all know white folks do when do when too many "darkies" move into their gated neighborhood...ever heard of white flight? it's very real...



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02 Feb 2017, 1:50 am

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The ordinary citizen doesn't want a bunch of dirt poor, non-English speaking, differently looking, differently cultured people in the neighborhood.

Are you seriously telling me that Arab lives are less valuable than white people's feelings?

You say you don't like seeing brown people in your neighborhood? Syrians are having whole entire neighborhoods flattened by American bombers, so don't expect any sympathy from me.



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02 Feb 2017, 2:10 am

He kept his word, well he negotiated down deliberately to get to this point, he's doing what he promised essentially, I think saudi arabia is as much an open threat as other places included, if you consider the past and follow the dough trail, they've caused the united states trouble previously but I suppose it's considered a 'stable' regime who the west can do business with at the same time lol.



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02 Feb 2017, 2:12 am

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I don't get why people want Muslims in their country.

Because they're human beings?

Because they're refugees fleeing war?

You act like this is a vacation for them.

These are excuses the profiteers give. Those that profit on refugee immigration.

The ordinary citizen doesn't want a bunch of dirt poor, non-English speaking, differently looking, differently cultured people in the neighborhood.


At one time, that description applied to German, Irish, Italian, or eastern European, and Jewish, immigrants. But the descendants of all these people became accepted as Americans. So those bigots who complain about immigration can go pound salt.


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02 Feb 2017, 3:07 am

he is keeping his cards close to his chest which is slightly silly as far as foreign relations are concerned.
he may be a control freak and the size of the business of "america" may be beyond his personal ability to control all aspects of.

i wonder how good he is at delegating entire decision making processes to people of which he has no time to examine?

apparently he hung up on our prime minister today, and that may be incorrectly reported, but it does not congrue with my expectation.

my expectation was that he admires people who are successful, and our prime minister is worth more than $200 million due to his pre political business ventures. he is regarded by many australian citizens as a silvertail who is out of touch with ordinary australians, and he lives in his personal $20 million mansion on sydney harbor rather than pack up and go to the "lodge"

trump should not expect people to wait around for too long for amelioration of his somewhat surprising decisions.



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02 Feb 2017, 3:09 am

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So those bigots who complain about immigration can go pound salt.

or vote for Trump ...



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02 Feb 2017, 3:15 am

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So those bigots who complain about immigration can go pound salt.

or vote for Trump ...


So, we're agreed bigots voted for Trump?


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02 Feb 2017, 3:23 am

cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
It's basic human nature. I think those who claim they've evolved beyond it, would have a big problem if a redneck Confederate flag displaying Breitbart reading family moved next to them, even of that family was very polite and friendly. They'd still want them to move somewhere else, to go back where they came from.


Making a lot of assumptions don't you think?

I'm not aware of any case in the history of the western world where people have lobbied to have a racist white person thrown out of a neighborhood...on the hand we all know white folks do when do when too many "darkies" move into their gated neighborhood...ever heard of white flight? it's very real...


My hypothesis remains the same. I'm talking about how people feel in their heart. There's always going to be one group another group is going to hate. No matter how above hatred and prejudice they pretend to be.



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02 Feb 2017, 3:31 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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So those bigots who complain about immigration can go pound salt.

or vote for Trump ...


So, we're agreed bigots voted for Trump?


Isn't stereotyping Trump voters as bigots, displaying bigotry? Is not using terms like "Trumpanzees" and all the other pejoratives I keep seeing a display of bigotry?



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02 Feb 2017, 3:50 am

Barchan wrote:
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The ordinary citizen doesn't want a bunch of dirt poor, non-English speaking, differently looking, differently cultured people in the neighborhood.

Are you seriously telling me that Arab lives are less valuable than white people's feelings?

You say you don't like seeing brown people in your neighborhood? Syrians are having whole entire neighborhoods flattened by American bombers, so don't expect any sympathy from me.

Trump is just saying they need to temporarily go somewhere else.

If they are so "valuable" as you say, then surely some other country would welcome them.



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02 Feb 2017, 4:45 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
So those bigots who complain about immigration can go pound salt.

or vote for Trump ...


So, we're agreed bigots voted for Trump?

Does the sun shine



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02 Feb 2017, 4:47 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
So those bigots who complain about immigration can go pound salt.

or vote for Trump ...


So, we're agreed bigots voted for Trump?


Isn't stereotyping Trump voters as bigots, displaying bigotry? Is not using terms like "Trumpanzees" and all the other pejoratives I keep seeing a display of bigotry?

No not all Trump voters, maybe at least 62% of them
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 69519d8e50



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02 Feb 2017, 4:55 am

cyberdad wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
So those bigots who complain about immigration can go pound salt.

or vote for Trump ...


So, we're agreed bigots voted for Trump?

Does the sun shine


you have your eyes rolled back in your head like pit bull terriers who are engaged in some mindless pursuit.

to be quite lesser than your current level of conversation, i was watching a tv show in bed last night about the 2nd world war, and one fellow said "i looked up into the sky and i saw a dog fight"

immediately i thought they both must have been pit bull terriers, because only they would continue to fight without realizing they are both falling to their deaths.



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02 Feb 2017, 5:04 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
So those bigots who complain about immigration can go pound salt.

or vote for Trump ...


So, we're agreed bigots voted for Trump?


Isn't stereotyping Trump voters as bigots, displaying bigotry? Is not using terms like "Trumpanzees" and all the other pejoratives I keep seeing a display of bigotry?


I didn't say all Trump voters were bigots; rather, I was just asking if it was agreed that bigots voted for Trump.


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02 Feb 2017, 5:20 am

my own video. not taken from anywhere but my own head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CgMjjIynwI