Are you afraid to die?

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17 Oct 2018, 4:30 pm

Maybe I'm wrong then.

But it feels so unfair that some people do experience tremendous pain while dying. Why can't all death just be painless? :cry:

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17 Oct 2018, 4:33 pm

TW1ZTY wrote:

Maybe I'm wrong then.

But it feels so unfair that some people do experience tremendous pain while dying. Why can't all death just be painless? :cry:

I agree. I wish it was always painless. I doubt everyone has been as lucky as my father, although he did suffer terribly from his illness itself. Pain should all be eradicated, emotionally too!

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17 Oct 2018, 5:01 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:

Magna wrote:

TW1ZTY wrote:

Magna wrote:

I would separate the act of dying from being dead. I think everyone to a person would fear the act of dying.

The only thing I fear about being dead is any pain or sadness my wife and kids would feel and any struggle they may have getting on without me.

If I was exactly the same person as I am now but without having any family, I would have no fear of being dead at all. When I'm gone, I'm gone.

I think the one thing everybody fears about the act of dying is the pain and the fear.

There really is no "painless" way to die, only quick death or slow death. People always put up a struggle when they are dying no matter what that method of dying is.

Also I think the idea of not knowing what happens to us after death can be terrifying for some people.

Some people do die in their sleep. Others die in a manner that's so instantaneous that their nervous system doesn't have time to register pain.

My father was in a coma for nearly a month and regained consciousness. He claimed to have been back to his childhood home in _____, and that he had 'flown' there with wings. He didn't believe us that he had been in hospital the whole time. He was adamant that he was with his parents playing with his dog, and being a little boy. No one had ever heard of my father's family having a dog. In fact, my father and his parents didn't like dogs at all. But, my father insisted and said it had been a big black dog named _____. (His parents had passed by this time and couldn't confirm). Dad described flying over the hospital and how nice it was to go back in time. Of course he wasn't 'dead' during this but it still gives me comfort. This was 17 years ago. About two years ago my family found a black and white picture of my father as a four year old boy sitting on a front step of a house with a big black dog behind him. I'm debating attaching it for you guys.

When my father was in the stages of final death (8 months after the coma), he reported he was on a cruise ship watching the waves and that his parents were there waiting for him. I hold these memories dear. He wasn't in imminent pain at the end. In fact, he was quite at peace mentally.

Thank you for sharing this.

Also, I find that emotional pain can be more painful than physical pain by quite a margin.

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17 Oct 2018, 5:29 pm

I don't think my father was in pain, per se. But he was uncomfortable with the trach tube.

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17 Oct 2018, 6:09 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

I don't think my father was in pain, per se. But he was uncomfortable with the trach tube.

((hugs))

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17 Oct 2018, 6:36 pm

Yep. My father wanted a better quality of life. So he tried to get a trach which would enable him to talk and eat.

It was during the surgery to get the new trach that he passed away.

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17 Oct 2018, 6:38 pm

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Yep. My father wanted a better quality of life. So he tried to get a trach which would enable him to talk and eat.

It was during the surgery to get the new trach that he passed away.

I'm sorry Kortie. I shouldn't have mentioned my father. It's too soon for you

((double hugs)) :cry:

(I'm so dumb sometimes)

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17 Oct 2018, 6:45 pm

Why shouldn't you mention your father? You loved him so much.

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17 Oct 2018, 6:48 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

Why shouldn't you mention your father? You loved him so much.

(inserts foot in mouth) Thanks, Korts.
I am sorry though. I wish I hadn't brought up the topic at this point in your grief.

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18 Oct 2018, 3:30 pm

TW1ZTY wrote:

As much as I fear death I think I wouldn't care about dying if my life was completely destroyed. Like if I was locked away in prison for the rest of my life

From that point of view the death penalty doesn't seem so bad. It should at least be offered to prisoners as an option. Optionally they could donate their organs to people who need them.

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18 Oct 2018, 7:37 pm

you'd think by now somebody woulda thought of a totally benign [other than causing premature death] method of execution. if it was just a pill or an elixir one could drink and then in a few minutes one would fall to permanent sleep without any discomfort. that would be humane.

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18 Oct 2018, 7:42 pm

No.

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19 Oct 2018, 8:06 am

I used to think that one day, maybe in our lifetime medical science would come up with a way to greatly prolong our lives. Lately I've been reading a book that completely destroyed that notion. It will never happen.

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19 Oct 2018, 8:52 am

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What book is that? They do think the new generation will live to 120 or so.

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19 Oct 2018, 8:55 am

All I can say is: we shall see.

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19 Oct 2018, 6:45 pm

mrspock wrote:

RetroGamer87 wrote:

What book is that? They do think the new generation will live to 120 or so.

The Third Chimpanzee. It had a chapter discussing how aging is caused not by one thing wearing out but many different things that wear out at roughly the same time (since having a heart that lasts for 500 years would be of no use if the rest of the body can only last for 120 years).

True that people will live for 120 years. At least one person has already done so and it's entirely possible that a lot of people (mostly women) will do so in the near future. That would be more people living to the maximum range rather than extending the range.

But better medicine and safer living conditions won't help us live past 120 years anymore than better medicine and safer living conditions will help a mouse live past 2 years. In the wild a mouse might live for 2 years or it might be eaten by a hawk after 2 months. In captivity a mouse has a pretty good chance of living to the end of its maximum lifespan. No amount of medicine can help mice or men live beyond their maximum range of 2 and 120 years respectively.

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