21 Feb 2020, 9:53 pm
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21 Feb 2020, 10:01 pm
...With the tradition of " balancing the ticket " who might/should be the VP choice of anyone here/any others 
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22 Feb 2020, 3:35 am
imgilbertthefilberttheknutwithak wrote:
...With the tradition of " balancing the ticket " who might/should be the VP choice of anyone here/any others ?
?Hmm, tricky.
There are lots of things to look at “balancing”:
- Ideology
- Age
- Regional appeal
- Ethnic appeal
- Gender
- Outsider/Insider
For Biden, I think the ideal is probably someone like Kamala Harris who can appeal to young voters and also help with minority turnout.
For Warren, she has a real issue in... well basically everywhere that isn’t solidly blue. She could go for someone like Beto or one of the Castro brothers to help her win the South, or for a Midwesterner. I don’t think she’d go for another woman so that rules out Klobuchar, but maybe somebody like Bob Casey or David Loebsack.
Bernie will probably throw balance out the window and go for Ed Markey. More realistically, he’ll go for someone like Rashida Tlaib and still throw practical balance out the window while superficially looking balanced.
Buttigieg would probably want someone 1) established, 2) with lots of appeal to minority and particularly black voters, and 3) a woman. Kamala Harris or Maxine Waters?
Bloomberg will probably want someone with a working-class background or at least a story of overcoming adversity. Not many of them to choose from. Ayanna Pressley might be an interesting choice but I’d be shocked if she agreed to work with him!
24 Feb 2020, 5:55 pm
The_Walrus wrote:
imgilbertthefilberttheknutwithak wrote:
...With the tradition of " balancing the ticket " who might/should be the VP choice of anyone here/any others ?
?Hmm, tricky.
There are lots of things to look at “balancing”:
- Ideology
- Age
- Regional appeal
- Ethnic appeal
- Gender
- Outsider/Insider
For Biden, I think the ideal is probably someone like Kamala Harris who can appeal to young voters and also help with minority turnout.
For Warren, she has a real issue in... well basically everywhere that isn’t solidly blue. She could go for someone like Beto or one of the Castro brothers to help her win the South, or for a Midwesterner. I don’t think she’d go for another woman so that rules out Klobuchar, but maybe somebody like Bob Casey or David Loebsack.
Bernie will probably throw balance out the window and go for Ed Markey. More realistically, he’ll go for someone like Rashida Tlaib and still throw practical balance out the window while superficially looking balanced.
Buttigieg would probably want someone 1) established, 2) with lots of appeal to minority and particularly black voters, and 3) a woman. Kamala Harris or Maxine Waters?
Bloomberg will probably want someone with a working-class background or at least a story of overcoming adversity. Not many of them to choose from. Ayanna Pressley might be an interesting choice but I’d be shocked if she agreed to work with him!
I think that Stacy Abrahams has a decent chance of being selected as a VP candidate. She is one of the better known democratic party figures that didn't run for president. She hasn't endorsed any of the candidates, so she avoids the possibility of ill feelings if she had endorced a candidate and another person won. In terms of race, gender, and region, she could balance out Sanders, Biden, Bloomberg, Buttigieg and Steyer. In terms of race and region, she could balance out Warren and Klobuchar. In terms of age, she could balance out Sanders, Biden, Warren, and Bloomberg.
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25 Feb 2020, 3:14 am
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25 Feb 2020, 10:53 am
I have thought of Stacey also 
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26 Feb 2020, 8:44 am
The_Walrus wrote:
imgilbertthefilberttheknutwithak wrote:
...With the tradition of " balancing the ticket " who might/should be the VP choice of anyone here/any others ?
?Hmm, tricky.
There are lots of things to look at “balancing”:
- Ideology
- Age
- Regional appeal
- Ethnic appeal
- Gender
- Outsider/Insider
For Biden, I think the ideal is probably someone like Kamala Harris who can appeal to young voters and also help with minority turnout.
For Warren, she has a real issue in... well basically everywhere that isn’t solidly blue. She could go for someone like Beto or one of the Castro brothers to help her win the South, or for a Midwesterner. I don’t think she’d go for another woman so that rules out Klobuchar, but maybe somebody like Bob Casey or David Loebsack.
Bernie will probably throw balance out the window and go for Ed Markey. More realistically, he’ll go for someone like Rashida Tlaib and still throw practical balance out the window while superficially looking balanced.
Buttigieg would probably want someone 1) established, 2) with lots of appeal to minority and particularly black voters, and 3) a woman. Kamala Harris or Maxine Waters?
Bloomberg will probably want someone with a working-class background or at least a story of overcoming adversity. Not many of them to choose from. Ayanna Pressley might be an interesting choice but I’d be shocked if she agreed to work with him!
People in the real world away from liberal echo chambers don't judge people by their race etc. Bloomberg is another one who was in Epstein's black book, Biden likes sniffing children, bootedge is a massive racist and a fraud/neocon war monger/Warren a pathological liar and fantasist and klob just a nothing dullard. It's absurd and hilarious for anyone to claim superdelegates are democratic. Sanders is awful but it's obviously who Democratic voters want. We've tried your moderate/centrist theory in 2016 and she lost to a game show host. Your predictions on the UK election were hideously wrong too. Just stick to listening to people who know what they're talking about.
26 Feb 2020, 1:09 pm
JohnPowell wrote:
People in the real world away from liberal echo chambers don't judge people by their race etc.
Quite the opposite, actually. Those people are generally, but by no means always, far more racist. It isn't the "liberal elites" who think Obama was born in Kenya, or that the Jews did 9/11.
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We've tried your moderate/centrist theory in 2016 and she lost to a game show host.
We've tried far-left lunatics before and they've lost too, both in the UK and the US.
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Your predictions on the UK election were hideously wrong too.
I openly admitted I was just making stuff up, and I still correctly predicted the Labour collapse to within four seats, the Brexit Party's complete failure, Plaid Cymru's 4, Green 1, and I was only out on the SNP because they expelled a successful candidate before election day. I also correctly predicted that three Northern Irish seats would go to non-abstentionist pro-European candidates although I got the parties wrong (I couldn't possibly have known Hermon was going to stand down). I was wildly optimistic on the Lib Dems and independents but I knew and declared that I was. I also said that my prediction was dependent on polls holding steady and the Lib Dems collapsed. So frankly, I did really, really well.
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Just stick to listening to people who know what they're talking about.
I already do. Give it a try one day
26 Feb 2020, 2:00 pm
The_Walrus wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
People in the real world away from liberal echo chambers don't judge people by their race etc.
Quite the opposite, actually. Those people are generally, but by no means always, far more racist. It isn't the "liberal elites" who think Obama was born in Kenya, or that the Jews did 9/11.
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We've tried your moderate/centrist theory in 2016 and she lost to a game show host.
We've tried far-left lunatics before and they've lost too, both in the UK and the US.
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Your predictions on the UK election were hideously wrong too.
I openly admitted I was just making stuff up, and I still correctly predicted the Labour collapse to within four seats, the Brexit Party's complete failure, Plaid Cymru's 4, Green 1, and I was only out on the SNP because they expelled a successful candidate before election day. I also correctly predicted that three Northern Irish seats would go to non-abstentionist pro-European candidates although I got the parties wrong (I couldn't possibly have known Hermon was going to stand down). I was wildly optimistic on the Lib Dems and independents but I knew and declared that I was. I also said that my prediction was dependent on polls holding steady and the Lib Dems collapsed. So frankly, I did really, really well.
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Just stick to listening to people who know what they're talking about.
I already do. Give it a try one day
Only anti-Semites conflate Israel with "Jews". I have Jewish family members that hate Israel. So stop talking about stuff you have no idea about. It is boring debunking liberals. The birther claims were started by a 'LIBERAL' , Hillary Clinton when she was running against Obama.
They didn't lose to a game show host.
I was talking about the seat numbers. You don't know anything about history or the present, so I'd stay clear of predicting the future.
28 Feb 2020, 3:05 pm
I hate republicans and I despise democrats.
28 Feb 2020, 7:21 pm
Roboto wrote:
I hate republicans and I despise democrats.
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01 Mar 2020, 5:14 am
JohnPowell wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
imgilbertthefilberttheknutwithak wrote:
...With the tradition of " balancing the ticket " who might/should be the VP choice of anyone here/any others ?
?Hmm, tricky.
There are lots of things to look at “balancing”:
- Ideology
- Age
- Regional appeal
- Ethnic appeal
- Gender
- Outsider/Insider
For Biden, I think the ideal is probably someone like Kamala Harris who can appeal to young voters and also help with minority turnout.
For Warren, she has a real issue in... well basically everywhere that isn’t solidly blue. She could go for someone like Beto or one of the Castro brothers to help her win the South, or for a Midwesterner. I don’t think she’d go for another woman so that rules out Klobuchar, but maybe somebody like Bob Casey or David Loebsack.
Bernie will probably throw balance out the window and go for Ed Markey. More realistically, he’ll go for someone like Rashida Tlaib and still throw practical balance out the window while superficially looking balanced.
Buttigieg would probably want someone 1) established, 2) with lots of appeal to minority and particularly black voters, and 3) a woman. Kamala Harris or Maxine Waters?
Bloomberg will probably want someone with a working-class background or at least a story of overcoming adversity. Not many of them to choose from. Ayanna Pressley might be an interesting choice but I’d be shocked if she agreed to work with him!
People in the real world away from liberal echo chambers don't judge people by their race etc. Bloomberg is another one who was in Epstein's black book, Biden likes sniffing children, bootedge is a massive racist and a fraud/neocon war monger/Warren a pathological liar and fantasist and klob just a nothing dullard. It's absurd and hilarious for anyone to claim superdelegates are democratic. Sanders is awful but it's obviously who Democratic voters want. We've tried your moderate/centrist theory in 2016 and she lost to a game show host. Your predictions on the UK election were hideously wrong too. Just stick to listening to people who know what they're talking about.
As a non-American you maybe don't understand how deep-rooted the " balancing the ticket " thing is in the US.
01 Mar 2020, 5:36 am
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01 Mar 2020, 5:53 am
JohnPowell wrote:
I understand normal people. They are more interested in policies, not identity insanity.
The " balanced ticket " tradition in the US goes back a lot further than the " identity politics " (modern-day definition) thing
.And who said politicians were normal
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