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13 Feb 2022, 4:40 am





wellllllllll remember the steep sheep fines, \high as the house worth\back in 2008?ish, the newly-mandatory vac for sheep, the nay-sayers faced these huge fines too, at the first hearing it was unbelievable scary, an army of geared up police for a handfull of public attendees :roll:



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13 Feb 2022, 5:45 pm

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This is apparently being sponsored teachers union for the Seattle public schools meaning it is not a Jewish teachers union. The affinity groups are for white teachers and white Jewish members of the teachers union.
I specifically said that anti racism training is not CRT but is based heavily on CRT principles. I would assume those that attend these groups are supporters of these “provocative” principles and that being human some of these beliefs will slip into the lessons.


There seems to be an attempt to find something "woke" in the education system to justify all these crazy parents storming school board meetings demanding the schools remove non-existent curriculum or (what's quite likely) attempting to remove actual historical events from the social studies curriculum.

I've been watching some amazing videos from a podcaster called Hezakaya who has downloaded videos from the 1940s all the way up to the 1990s from news programs and documentary makers from the time and what is apparent is how much social upheaval the population of the US has experienced through out it's history.

Learning about how/why people live in the circumstances they do in 2022 is fundamental to school social studies. There is a simple saying that if people forget the terrible things that was done in the past they are doomed to repeat them. The great mantra after WWI was "never again". But governments and leaders around the world manipulated the populace of Europe and America not addressing the root of conflict that caused war in the first place.

Watching hezakaya I did not even know that in 1919 there was a civil war in the USA where the entire country (both north and south) was in a state of war between US police and returned African America soldiers. Many hundreds (the actual number will never be known because there was a north Korean style cover up and embargo on journalists reporting it) of innocent black civilians were murdered across the country and their property stolen. Even African Americans only have an oral tradition but the event was so traumatic on that generation that those who survived were forced to suppress memory of it.

The roots of the events of 1919 were never addressed and the purpose of subjects like social studies in school is to at least make teachers and students aware of the true history of a country so they understand why America was and still is a fractured disunited country in 2022.

The teachers are the ones who have to deliver content so it makes sense they are able to cover material in a fair and unbiased way before passing it on to their students.

I have watched some of Hezakaya's documentaries. Amazing finds.

Some anti-wokes want to whitewash history, others disagree with 1619 Project version of history and others object to "guilt-tripping" teaching methods. While the sources for most of these are obviously anti-woke, most of these specific instances are not debunked.


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13 Feb 2022, 6:42 pm

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Some anti-wokes want to whitewash history, others disagree with 1619 Project version of history and others object to "guilt-tripping" teaching methods. While the sources for most of these are obviously anti-woke, most of these specific instances are not debunked.


I think for many teachers and parents the "herd invisibility" of how they benefit from a society which enslaved/relegated a whole population to subhuman status (there is some debate based on the World trade Fair in 1901 whether PoC were even considered human by most Americans up to the 20th century).

When you benefit from a system that has entrenched systemic bias toward a whole tract of the population its preferable to not look too deeply if doing so doesn't benefit you. This likely contributes toward the resistance toward teaching anything remotely controversial (even if it's true) as creates discomfort or dissonance.



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25 Apr 2022, 3:09 am

A very good video on how the American public has been brainwashed about CRT



I would make it mandatory for American kids to watch John Oliver's take on CRT to deprogram their thinking promulgated by their brainwashed parents.

America has gone through a series of historic brainwashing whether it be about race, communism, homosexuality or beliefs about guns.

Rather than the "woke generation" it explains why we have the "MAGA" generation. And America isn't the only English speaking country to be brainwashed by these stupid beliefs.



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25 Apr 2022, 7:30 pm

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A very good video on how the American public has been brainwashed about CRT



I would make it mandatory for American kids to watch John Oliver's take on CRT to deprogram their thinking promulgated by their brainwashed parents.

America has gone through a series of historic brainwashing whether it be about race, communism, homosexuality or beliefs about guns.

Rather than the "woke generation" it explains why we have the "MAGA" generation. And America isn't the only English speaking country to be brainwashed by these stupid beliefs.


For an anti-bigotry video, Oliver sure engages in a lot of stereotypes. And mandating this video would understandably validate paranoia. And he is wrong in that the anti CRT movement gained real momentum in Biden voting districts, and the MAGA's followed them.


Actually for the most part CRT is yesterday's news. The right has moved on It is all about "grooming" kindergarteners to be trans these days(SMH)


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26 Apr 2022, 4:15 am

You do realise that despite being proven to be a non-existent problem, there are a total of 35 states so far have signed into law or proposed legislation banning or restricting the teaching of critical race theory,

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/map-ant ... d=83619715

In addition a total of 16 states so far have signed into law bills restricting education on race in classrooms or state agencies. As a result a number of teachers (some were interviewed in the video I posted) have been sacked for simply teaching American history, The last time such wide spread draconian laws banning/outlawing the teaching of facts was in the 1930s.



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26 Apr 2022, 11:09 am

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You do realise that despite being proven to be a non-existent problem, there are a total of 35 states so far have signed into law or proposed legislation banning or restricting the teaching of critical race theory,

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/map-ant ... d=83619715

In addition a total of 16 states so far have signed into law bills restricting education on race in classrooms or state agencies. As a result a number of teachers (some were interviewed in the video I posted) have been sacked for simply teaching American history, The last time such wide spread draconian laws banning/outlawing the teaching of facts was in the 1930s.

The anti CRT (and “Don’t Say Gay’) laws are addressed here.


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21 Dec 2022, 2:51 am

Stanford Slammed for Putting 'American' on Forbidden Word List

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A list of forbiddennwords recently published by Stanford University is drawing ire, even among faculty members at the institution.

The changing use of the words, part of what Stanford officially refers to as the Elimination of Harmful Language Initiative (EHLI), stems from a multi-phase, multi-year project that began in 2020.

Stanford explains as part of the EHLI published Monday that the intent of the initiative "is to eliminate many forms of harmful language, including racist, violent, and biased (e.g., disability bias, ethnic bias, ethnic slurs, gender bias, implicit bias, sexual bias) language in Stanford websites and code."

"The purpose of this website is to educate people about the possible impact of the words we use," the EHLI says. "Language affects different people in different ways. We are not attempting to assign levels of harm to the terms on this site. We also are not attempting to address all informal uses of language."

The website even includes a bolded disclaimer: "Content Warning: This website contains language that is offensive or harmful. Please engage with this website at your own pace."

Among the myriad changes is a shift from "American" to "U.S. citizen," due to the insinuation "that the U.S. is the most important country in the Americas" even though the Americas are composed of 42 countries overall.

Dee Mostofi, a spokesperson for Stanford University, told Newsweek that the university's style guidelines are meant for internal use, often for individual workgroups.

Other words and terms that should no longer be used, according to the ELHI, include: "lame," "tone deaf" and "walk-in" as they "can trivialize the experience of people living with disabilities."

The term "spirit animal" is also nixed, as equating it with an animal that guides or protects "is to demean the significance of the term." As is the word "tribe," as Stanford says it has been "historically used to equate Indigenous people with savages."


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21 Dec 2022, 5:02 am

Other words and terms that should no longer be used, according to the ELHI, include: "lame," "tone deaf" and "walk-in" as they "can trivialize the experience of people living with disabilities."

The term "spirit animal" is also nixed, as equating it with an animal that guides or protects "is to demean the significance of the term." As is the word "tribe," as Stanford says it has been "historically used to equate Indigenous people with savages."

Some of these open the flood gates.

Disabilities - idiot, halfwit, dumb, legless, tiny, giant, bigfoot, numbskull, brainless, imbecile, fool, empty head, jarhead, slow, clumsy (I can think of hundreds more)

Indigenous - chief, brave, moccasins, native, tomohawk, talisman, shaman, medicine man, holy man, witch, zombie, witch doctor...plenty of others



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21 Dec 2022, 6:04 am

cyberdad wrote:
You do realise that despite being proven to be a non-existent problem, there are a total of 35 states so far have signed into law or proposed legislation banning or restricting the teaching of critical race theory,

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/map-ant ... d=83619715

In addition a total of 16 states so far have signed into law bills restricting education on race in classrooms or state agencies. As a result a number of teachers (some were interviewed in the video I posted) have been sacked for simply teaching American history, The last time such wide spread draconian laws banning/outlawing the teaching of facts was in the 1930s.


Hardly. 8)



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Stanford Slammed for Putting 'American' on Forbidden Word List
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A list of forbiddennwords recently published by Stanford University is drawing ire, even among faculty members at the institution.

The changing use of the words, part of what Stanford officially refers to as the Elimination of Harmful Language Initiative (EHLI), stems from a multi-phase, multi-year project that began in 2020.

Stanford explains as part of the EHLI published Monday that the intent of the initiative "is to eliminate many forms of harmful language, including racist, violent, and biased (e.g., disability bias, ethnic bias, ethnic slurs, gender bias, implicit bias, sexual bias) language in Stanford websites and code."

"The purpose of this website is to educate people about the possible impact of the words we use," the EHLI says. "Language affects different people in different ways. We are not attempting to assign levels of harm to the terms on this site. We also are not attempting to address all informal uses of language."

The website even includes a bolded disclaimer: "Content Warning: This website contains language that is offensive or harmful. Please engage with this website at your own pace."

Among the myriad changes is a shift from "American" to "U.S. citizen," due to the insinuation "that the U.S. is the most important country in the Americas" even though the Americas are composed of 42 countries overall.

Dee Mostofi, a spokesperson for Stanford University, told Newsweek that the university's style guidelines are meant for internal use, often for individual workgroups.

Other words and terms that should no longer be used, according to the ELHI, include: "lame," "tone deaf" and "walk-in" as they "can trivialize the experience of people living with disabilities."

The term "spirit animal" is also nixed, as equating it with an animal that guides or protects "is to demean the significance of the term." As is the word "tribe," as Stanford says it has been "historically used to equate Indigenous people with savages."


It is actually called "The United States of Ammmeria", not the United States of Argentina or Columbia. :mrgreen:

Does Canada, Mexico or South Ameeria have a problem, or is this simply an ivory tower academic group hunting for self-importance and virtue-signalling points? :scratch:



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21 Dec 2022, 9:29 am

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Stanford Slammed for Putting 'American' on Forbidden Word List
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A list of forbiddennwords recently published by Stanford University is drawing ire, even among faculty members at the institution.

The changing use of the words, part of what Stanford officially refers to as the Elimination of Harmful Language Initiative (EHLI), stems from a multi-phase, multi-year project that began in 2020.

Stanford explains as part of the EHLI published Monday that the intent of the initiative "is to eliminate many forms of harmful language, including racist, violent, and biased (e.g., disability bias, ethnic bias, ethnic slurs, gender bias, implicit bias, sexual bias) language in Stanford websites and code."

"The purpose of this website is to educate people about the possible impact of the words we use," the EHLI says. "Language affects different people in different ways. We are not attempting to assign levels of harm to the terms on this site. We also are not attempting to address all informal uses of language."

The website even includes a bolded disclaimer: "Content Warning: This website contains language that is offensive or harmful. Please engage with this website at your own pace."

Among the myriad changes is a shift from "American" to "U.S. citizen," due to the insinuation "that the U.S. is the most important country in the Americas" even though the Americas are composed of 42 countries overall.

Dee Mostofi, a spokesperson for Stanford University, told Newsweek that the university's style guidelines are meant for internal use, often for individual workgroups.

Other words and terms that should no longer be used, according to the ELHI, include: "lame," "tone deaf" and "walk-in" as they "can trivialize the experience of people living with disabilities."

The term "spirit animal" is also nixed, as equating it with an animal that guides or protects "is to demean the significance of the term." As is the word "tribe," as Stanford says it has been "historically used to equate Indigenous people with savages."


It is actually called "The United States of Ammmeria", not the United States of Argentina or Columbia. :mrgreen:

Does Canada, Mexico or South Ameeria have a problem, or is this simply an ivory tower academic group hunting for self-importance and virtue-signalling points? :scratch:

It was late at night, but I not heard of much if any objection, from Central and South Americans, or Canadians to the hijacking of the name.

They are supposed so highly educated yet they don’t understood that a word or a phrase often can have two totally separate meanings. Tone-Deaf can mean a physical problem, or a thinking problem.

On that guideline “Hispanic” was good and “Latinix” bad despite most people in that demographic finding “Latinix” offensive. That is an example of being tone deaf.

To their credit they got a few words right. “Indian Giver” is a racist term in ascribing a negative character trait to a race of people. I was pleasantly shocked to find “Karen” on the list. For most wokes that is the go to own the MAGA’s word that they just can not use enough.


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21 Dec 2022, 10:36 am

Yeah I despise the term 'Karen' as well. It's not only racial but it's a pretty sexist insult too when you think about it. I just don't like the idea of targeting females with insults just because they're white and white = evil in today's "woke" generation.



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Yeah I despise the term 'Karen' as well. It's not only racial but it's a pretty sexist insult too when you think about it. I just don't like the idea of targeting females with insults just because they're white and white = evil in today's "woke" generation.

And ageist.


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21 Dec 2022, 12:34 pm

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Yeah I despise the term 'Karen' as well. It's not only racial but it's a pretty sexist insult too when you think about it. I just don't like the idea of targeting females with insults just because they're white and white = evil in today's "woke" generation.

And ageist.


That too.

And the thing is not every woman who gets frustrated with employees at places like Walmart or McDonald's is doing so out of pure racism or entitlement. Believe it or not there are some pretty crappy employees who are the first ones to get a nasty attitude no matter how courteous a woman tries to be with them, and I think when you are a woman a lot of businesses assume they can take advantage of you because society thinks nice women are stupid but women who refuse to be stupid are essentially b*****s. So for women, especially white women nowadays thanks to this Karen crap, it's become a sort of "damned if you do, damned if you don't".

I may be a guy but I have seen my own mom put up with this crap from businesses way too many times.



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21 Dec 2022, 1:01 pm

I have seen someone say Karen online as some kind of insult but I don't think its used here in the UK. How did it start? Who is the patient X Karen that started it all?