Why people with ASD / Autism / AS should not be a neo nazi

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Nearly everyone agrees nazi’s are bad.

The problem is the media like to use the term “far right” to describe those with traditional or conservative views.

In the UK some people came out to protect the statue of war time hero Winston Churchill. The BBC labelled them all “far right” I saw a you tube video of them and most were just ordinary people.

Of course some may have had racist views and I’m not vouching for all of them but here we see a watering down of what Nazi means.

When I was young far right basically meant a skin head Nazi nut case on the fringes of society with very little support among the population.

Now it seems the term is used to anyone conservative as a slur so it waters down Nazi views to include many peoples religious / moral beliefs that don’t resemble the 1930/40 nazi’s at all.

I think you need to choose your battles. My understanding is that antifa carry weapons and are involved in violence fracas with right wingers. They intimidate those "fine young men" (according to the POTUS) who carry tiki torches and shout "Jews shall not replace us". But you are entitled to ask why they are carrying weapons or staging violent rallies. This isn't my cup of tea either.

BLM supporters have damaged public property and this doesn't have my support either. However the vast number of rallies are peaceful and I find it insidious that Trump has time to attack antifa and BLM but stays quiet as a church mouse when it comes to Dylan Roof or James Alex Fields Jr.

Antifa is deciding who is fascist and who is not. But of course, it is not just Antifa, and not every violent "left wing"incident is Antifa or BLM but they are not discouraging it either. The "Jews For Trump" car caravan that drove around NYC I found odious but it was peaceful but yet a number of people were throwing rocks and eggs at them.

Pick your battles is the bane of being an adult the bane of being Autistic. Pick your battles meant I voted for Biden despite concerns including the hopefully overblown fear of "regressive left" influence. But in my view both the "wokes" and the alt-right are existential threats to the things I value. Existential threats are existential threats and always have to be "battled".

No one should be a Nazi, ever. I would never be a Nazi because it's evil and wrong and just plain creepy.

But there will always be people who hate anyone who is different from them and feel they absolutely must belong to a "group", because they love to feel superior to people they see as sub-human.

But that is what far right is just like the far left is liberal views.



Humans have evolved and so have terms. Back in the 90's, the don't ask and don't tell was a democratic view and was considered a good thing because it allowed gays to join the military and it gave them more human rights.

Now today this would be considered a far right view because they are still forcing gays to not be who they are, want to have human rights, just don't be openly gay, don't have gay relationships, continue to pretend being straight.

As humans keep evolving, the political terms will change as well for views.



Are you seriously admitting to being a racist?

The far left isn't just liberal views.

The far right is Fascist.

The far left is Communist.

Most people are somewhere in between.

Most people are against totalitarianism.

Totalitarianism can be from either side. Or can be religious. Or can be feudal (which is an extreme conservative ideology nobody would agree with today). Or some other excuse that hasn't been tried yet afaik.

Just happens that in the 20th century, totalitarianism in the west was either Fascist or Communist.

ANTIFA is a reaction to right wing violence not being taken seriously enough. If the cops would rather defend and support violent far-right thugs instead of detaining them for their criminal activity that leaves it to we the people to defend ourselves from said violent thugs.

They were more lethal, not less so, back in the days when their views were mainstream in "most of academia, media, and corporate America." Are you familiar with the history of lynching? The Tuskegee experiment? Are you aware that the first major feature-length Hollywood movie (Birth of a Nation, 1915) was a sympathetic portrayal of the Ku Klux Klan and inspired the huge resurgence of the Klan in the 1920's?


Some, but certainly not most kinds of workplaces. The vast majority of employers dislike known "troublemakers" of any stripe.

Also I think you underestimate the potential threat posed by today's white nationalists, neo-Nazis, etc. They are terrified of today's demographic trends (with the people defined today as "white" predicted to become a numerical minority in the U.S.A. in about 30 years from now), and they are doing everything they can to scare other white people about what they see as a nightmare future for white people. I think they'll probably succeed in scaring a lot of working-class white people, especially if the economy doesn't improve drastically very soon.

If the white nationalists / neo-Nazis succeed in growing their movement to any significant extent at all, they do have the potential to become a serious threat to your safety as a Jew, because they and various other extreme right wingers believe in grand conspiracy ideologies of a type that inevitably ends up scapegoating Jews. Today's popular "QAnon" conspiracy theory scapegoats primarily "Satanists" and Democrats rather than Jews, but it will almost certainly end up scapegoating Jews too. (The "Satanic ritual abuse" scare has been intertwined with "Protocols of the Elders of Zion"-style conspiracy-mongering for a long time.)


You are in danger of being harassed on Twitter and other major social media if you take just about any political stand. (For example, some pro-"cure" people here on WP have complained about being harassed on Twitter by neurodiversity proponents, and likewise I've seen complaints elsewhere by some neurodiversity activists about being harassed by pro-"cure" people.)

That's an unfortunate consequence of the structure of today's major social media, which are intrinsically conducive to mob mentality. That's a big problem in and of itself, and is one of the reasons why I really hate today's major social media.

But it's not a good reason to make a moral equivalence between those who want to exclude various minorities (racial or otherwise) and those who want to defend said minorities. (It's also not a good reason to dismiss the fact that the Antifa have not killed anyone.)


No one here is saying you have to join Antifa.


"Calling out Antifa" for some of their strategies and tactics is one thing. Making a moral equivalence between Antifa and white nationalists / neo-Nazis is quite another. Some of the things you've said here come across as not just criticism of Antifa, but making a moral equivalence. I don't object to criticizing Antifa, but I do object to treating them as morally equivalent to the white nationalists and neo-Nazis.

EDIT: Another thing that makes today's white nationalists and neo-Nazis very dangerous out of proportion to their current numbers: their infiltration of quite a few police departments. (See relevant news stories here, here, and here.)

Last edited by Mona Pereth on 27 Oct 2020, 8:22 pm, edited 10 times in total.

Exactly, fighting fascism may be a fight but it's not a fight in the name of fascism.

Even the American Christian Right doesn't resemble the Nazis.

That really depends where you look quite frankly.

There was a dark period in my life when I was very warlike, but I was never really a Nazi. I've gotten myself out of that dark hole. Anyone can die of Covid any time and I decided that I want to be remembered as a Sweet Pea.

I agree with Mona and Funeralempire that Antifa formed as a reaction to the sudden popularity in far-right groups. They are not deciding who is fascist, in Charlottesville the fascists announced themselves emboldened by the perceived "look the other way" attitude from the new POTUS who's primary strategist at the time was a far-right agitator by the name of Steve Bannon.

There was a spate of racist graffiti that was sprayed all over America following Trump's election. The writing was literally on the wall

Not hard to imagine white teens running amok after Trump's election but lets not pretend it hasn't emboldened some erstwhile decent middle class folk to express their inner thoughts
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/20/us/p ... index.html

It is a left-wing tactic to smear those who don't embrace left-wing politics.
Equating conservatives with fascists.
Cheap, nasty, and infantile, but that is politics.
They are doing the same in America.

According to Andrew Bolt, that comment was taken out of context.
From memory, he is right.
But don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Are you talking about the fanatical right or left?