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Feyokien
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05 Nov 2020, 1:20 am

Biden is now only down by 23,000 votes in Georgia.

In Pennsylvania the gap is 175,000 votes with a full 11% left to count



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05 Nov 2020, 2:16 am

The longer this drags out the more stinky it gets.



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05 Nov 2020, 2:37 am

Revealed
California 55
Colorado 9
Connecticut 7
Delaware 3
District of Columbia 3
Hawaii 4
Illinois 20
Maine 3/4
Maryland 10
Massachusetts 11
Michigan 16
Minnesota 10
Nebraska 1/5
New Hampshire 4
New Jersey 14
New Mexico 5
New York 29
Oregon 7
Rhode Island 4
Vermont 3
Virginia 13
Washington 12
Wisconsin 10
(Arizona 11 ?)

Alabama 9
Arkansas 6
Florida 29
Idaho 4
Indiana 11
Iowa 6
Kansas 6
Kentucky 8
Louisiana 8
Maine 1/4
Mississippi 6
Missouri 10
Montana 3
Nebraska 4/5
North Dakota 3
Ohio 18
Oklahoma 7
South Carolina 9
South Dakota 3
Tennessee 11
Texas 38
Utah 6
West Virginia 5
Wyoming 3


55+9+7+3+3+4+20+3+10+11+16+10+1+4+14+5+29+7+4+3+13+12+10=253 (+11=264 ?)
9+6+29+4+11+6+6+8+8+1+6+10+3+4+3+18+7+9+3+11+38+6+5+3=214

Waiting
(Arizona 11 ?)
Alaska 3
Georgia 16
Nevada 6
North Carolina 15
Pennsylvania 20



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05 Nov 2020, 3:02 am

Catlover5 wrote:
Waiting
Alaska 3
Georgia 16
Nevada 6
North Carolina 15
Pennsylvania 20


Fishy.



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05 Nov 2020, 3:11 am

Tempus Fugit wrote:
Catlover5 wrote:
Waiting
Alaska 3
Georgia 16
Nevada 6
North Carolina 15
Pennsylvania 20


Fishy.


On what basis exactly?


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05 Nov 2020, 3:14 am

On the basis that I find it questionable.



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05 Nov 2020, 3:30 am

Why do they have to wait? Why Biden have to win in every state? I don’t understand the numbers.



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05 Nov 2020, 3:40 am

Tempus Fugit wrote:
On the basis that I find it questionable.


So basically, you don't like the outcome therefore it's questionable? :?


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05 Nov 2020, 3:50 am

There hasn't been an outcome. That's the problem.

To be clear so you don't take me down the wrong path, I don't have much preffernce of one canidatde over the other.



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05 Nov 2020, 4:13 am

Tempus Fugit wrote:
The longer this drags out the more stinky it gets.

There's nothing "stinky" about the fact that this election is taking an unusually long time. The reason for the long wait is simply the following:

1) An unusually large number of people voted absentee/mail-in, due to the CoViD crisis.
2) Absentee/mail-in ballots take longer to process than regular ballots.
3) Some states, such as Pennsylvania, have a law requiring that the count of absentee/mail-in ballots cannot even start until Election Day.

It was already known back in October that this was going to be a problem. But the Republican-dominated legislature of Pennsylvania refused to change the law to allow vote-counting to happen in a more timely fashion.

For details, see In Swing States, Officials Struggle To Process Ballots Early Due To Strict Local Laws, NPR, October 14, 2020.

For more recent info, see Why Vote Counting In Pennsylvania And Michigan Takes So Long, NPR, November 4, 2020.


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05 Nov 2020, 4:41 am

Arizona appears to be in play again, as Trump gained on Biden in the latest batch of votes.

Biden is still leading, but it may have been premature by Fox and AP to call it so early.



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05 Nov 2020, 5:13 am

I edited my list to highlight the uncertainty regarding Arizona.



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05 Nov 2020, 6:45 am

Trump still has the lead in Georgia, but the margin (0.4 % and less than 19,000 votes) is now so small that a recount is likely regardless of the eventual winner.



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05 Nov 2020, 6:51 am

GGPViper wrote:
Trump still has the lead in Georgia, but the margin (0.4 % and less than 19,000 votes) is now so small that a recount is likely regardless of the eventual winner.


Only just over 18,000.



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05 Nov 2020, 9:16 am

The Trump campaign has said that they will make a "Major Announcement" in Las Vegas, Nevada at 08:30 PST ... which is 30 minutes before Nevada officials are scheduled to announce the official outcome of voting in that state.

The Trump announcement is likely to be either a declaration of victory, or an announcement of a lawsuit declaring the Nevada results invalid.

The question we all need to ask is, "Why is Donald Trump trying to hijack or obstruct the voting process?"



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05 Nov 2020, 9:30 am

Mona Pereth wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
The longer this drags out the more stinky it gets.

There's nothing "stinky" about the fact that this election is taking an unusually long time. The reason for the long wait is simply the following:

1) An unusually large number of people voted absentee/mail-in, due to the CoViD crisis.
2) Absentee/mail-in ballots take longer to process than regular ballots.
3) Some states, such as Pennsylvania, have a law requiring that the count of absentee/mail-in ballots cannot even start until Election Day.

It was already known back in October that this was going to be a problem. But the Republican-dominated legislature of Pennsylvania refused to change the law to allow vote-counting to happen in a more timely fashion.

For details, see In Swing States, Officials Struggle To Process Ballots Early Due To Strict Local Laws, NPR, October 14, 2020.

For more recent info, see Why Vote Counting In Pennsylvania And Michigan Takes So Long, NPR, November 4, 2020.

Delays are not necessarily a matter of corruption but are often a matter of incompetence. As noted abovemany states have never had to deal with remotely this level of mail in ballots.
N.Y. mail-in voting deluge leads to confusion, June results delayed until August
Nearly 100,000 New York City voters have been sent invalid absentee ballots, with wrong names or addresses.


Note that New York is in no way a swing state. Their electoral votes are going to Biden. No need to “fix” the result. Unlike some other states New York has little to no history of early voting and use of absentee ballots had been minimal.


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