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Sedaka
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08 Aug 2007, 10:07 am
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
i know what my heaven is very well thankyou... and it's much better than what the bible describes
Well, we can save that for another forum. I'd bet $1,000,000 you don't know and understand the Bible's description of Heaven. Did you know it has specfic measurements, for example? (And no, guys, they're not "36-24-36"
.)Do you know about the specific jewels each of its twelve steps are made of? How about its streets and its sea? What are they made of? What shape is Heaven?
But I digress...
just causee you're ignoring the point to my posts...
You have to respond to posts to the extent that you want responses. It goes both ways.
yeah but i deliever on ultimatums (spelling atrocity is caryring through to today)... i answered your question and doubt you'll answer mine cause you'll consede a very importnant point to your previous argument...
which im sure you're hoping is at least obscured in rememberance by this point
so ill refresh:
you cannot claim that denying homosexual practices is ANYTHING COMPARABLE to denying premarital/extramarital sexual practices
because going against your genetic sexual nature is FORCED!! !! so it's BS to say that just cause you succeed at denying yourself straight sex fairly easily, that it's equivocal to expect the same for homosexuals to deny themselves homosexual sex
TOTALLY DIFFERENT
08 Aug 2007, 10:08 am
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08 Aug 2007, 10:12 am
08 Aug 2007, 10:15 am
greenblue wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Well, it's not just what the Bible says. Gay sex does seem quite odd to me, from what I've seen during my research. 
It just doesn't... jive. The men are clearly in agonizing anal pain, and their faces are so excruciatingly contorted they look like they're about to either run crying to mommy or give birth. this one's harder to criticize aesthetically.
The mechanics are wrong -- there's too much friction and pain, torture, going on.
It just doesn't... jive. The men are clearly in agonizing anal pain, and their faces are so excruciatingly contorted they look like they're about to either run crying to mommy or give birth. this one's harder to criticize aesthetically. The mechanics are wrong -- there's too much friction and pain, torture, going on.
You found that doing research? men agonizing anal pain?
Where did you find this information or how did you come up with this conclusion? A lot of straight couples have anal sex too, you know, so what you just said there doesn't seem to make much sense to me, doesn't sound like a good argument.
Actually, I read that rectal exams are much more painful for men than for women, because of the presence of the prostate. Anal penetration for a man is particularly abusive to the organs involved.
greenblue wrote:
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So I really think heterosexuality is more natural than homosexuality. This is hardly a specifically Christian view. Most people from Islam all the way to science agree.
It is natural, sexuality is a lot more than just for reproduction, and there are animals who have homosexual activity, if animals do this, must be natural, isn't it?
Just because something occurs once or twice in nature doesn't mean it's normal, "natural" in every sense of the word, or by design -- let alone good for you. Getting torn to shreds by a lion is natural, but it's not good for you. Is the elephant man (the guy who is famous for that huge deformity on his face) a normal, natural phenomenon? Freak occurances are just that.
08 Aug 2007, 10:19 am
08 Aug 2007, 10:26 am
08 Aug 2007, 10:45 am
Sopho wrote:
And I doubt gay guys have sex if the only thing they derive from that is pain.
Lust does crazy things. Ever heard the phrase, "It's hurts so good"? I'm just reporting my observations. I also read that gay men have permanently streched and loosened sphincters -- that can't be good, can it? The sphincter is there for control of your crap.
Do they need to wear butt plugs to keep from soiling themselves in public? How else would they hold it in once that muscle is gone?
08 Aug 2007, 10:58 am
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
When I study a woman's ass... I mean, THAT ... GUY ... KNEW ... WHAT ... HE ... WAS ... DOIN', when makin' that lil piece o' heaven!! !
But what if that turns out to be a guy's ass?
and are you now saying ragtime... that your monkey anscestors would have thought that mokey tail was hot too?
My point is of art -- there was clearly an artist behind the design of the female body.
my point was that you superficially will say you acknowledge evolution when the situation suites you but that you dont ACTUALLY believe it...
hence my suggesting you have monkey-like ancestors... which im fairly certain you dont agree with... and if you dont, then you dont believe the first thing about evolution... whatever small random diluted points you concede in hard-pressed moments
The reason I don't get much into evolution with you is that it's not my element, whereas it is yours. It would be like me drawing you into a debate about music technicals, like deceptive resolutions, chromatic figurations, the circle of fifths, the specific overtones of the oboe versus the clarinet, etc. Having written two operas, music is my specialty, so I can only expect you to discuss it so deeply. Likewise, you, having taken countless courses on evolution, very much have a leg up on me (......sorry, lost my train of thought
) in that particular study. So, no, of course I can't discuss it with you in the depth you can -- don't blame me for that. 
08 Aug 2007, 11:03 am
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
i know what my heaven is very well thankyou... and it's much better than what the bible describes
Well, we can save that for another forum. I'd bet $1,000,000 you don't know and understand the Bible's description of Heaven. Did you know it has specfic measurements, for example? (And no, guys, they're not "36-24-36"
.)Do you know about the specific jewels each of its twelve steps are made of? How about its streets and its sea? What are they made of? What shape is Heaven?
But I digress...
just causee you're ignoring the point to my posts...
You have to respond to posts to the extent that you want responses. It goes both ways.
yeah but i deliever on ultimatums (spelling atrocity is caryring through to today)... i answered your question and doubt you'll answer mine cause you'll consede a very importnant point to your previous argument...
which im sure you're hoping is at least obscured in rememberance by this point
so ill refresh:
you cannot claim that denying homosexual practices is ANYTHING COMPARABLE to denying premarital/extramarital sexual practices
because going against your genetic sexual nature is FORCED!! !! so it's BS to say that just cause you succeed at denying yourself straight sex fairly easily, that it's equivocal to expect the same for homosexuals to deny themselves homosexual sex
TOTALLY DIFFERENT
No it's not.
They're both, respectively, sins against our different natures. It's a sin-vs.-desire analogy, Sedaka, not a literal comparison.
08 Aug 2007, 11:14 am
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
And I doubt gay guys have sex if the only thing they derive from that is pain.
Lust does crazy things. Ever heard the phrase, "It's hurts so good"? I'm just reporting my observations. I also read that gay men have permanently streched and loosened sphincters -- that can't be good, can it? The sphincter is there for control of your crap.
Do they need to wear butt plugs to keep from soiling themselves in public? How else would they hold it in once that muscle is gone?Again, not everyone who engages in anal sex is gay, and not everyone who is gay has anal sex. Why are you so obsessed with the sex part of it? What about a gay couple who only have oral sex or neither?
