Are NTs/humans becoming more easily offended as time passes?

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Economic compliance is definitely detrimental to Democracy. That's why the American project worked, because it was founded on the premise of individual economic independence.
The more the time passes the less that is the case.

The majority makes the "rulz".
NTs are the majority.
Social climbing is in their nature.
Blame the evolutionary process.

Hopefully we'll out-evolve them one day then

Don't hold your breath.
Evolution loves "dick heads" irrational people who like to reproduce.
Studies have estimated/identified that the global IQ has gone backwards as a result.

The history books are about what the men did, but the way I see it, there's an analogy to the weak and strong atomic forces, or to gravity vs magnetism. I am a typical man, and I have very little control over the patriarchy, although I might influence it anywhere. My mother was a typical woman, and she had extreme control over a small matriarchy. The purpose of the patriarchy is to protect the homes of the men, and those homes are matriarchies - like the raisins in a muffin. The hand that rules the cradle rocks the world.
One joke that keeps coming around is the blank book titled "Everything that Men know about Women," while women often regard men as simple and easy to control. We get sent out to do all the hard and dangerous work, and are far less likely to be noted if we die trying to support and protect our families. A chance at glory is our compensation, while the women get security as a birthright.

This is one of the reasons why we absolutely need a better-organized autistic adult subculture exists, to create and protect a milieux in which personal individuality is respected.

If "someone got offended," you might be banned from the site, either temporarily or permanently, or you might just get a PM from one of the moderators, but you probably would NOT just be getting glitches like what you describe. If you're able to post here at all, what you're experiencing is almost certainly just a technical glitch of some kind.

What do you think that looks like though?

I almost think it would require something like a DAO. We're distributed widely through society, few of us have the ability to pick up and move. If someone here does well enough financially to buy a small condo or apartment complex for people on the spectrum who need assistance that's wonderful but it's an isolated event rather than a full-on autistic town or city (to which I don't necessarily think there would ever be one short of an organic attractor like a Mayo or Cleveland Clinic known the world over for autism research in that city).

It is also a result of modern healthcare technology. Most people survive now because of that. So people can do more and more stupid things e.g. get blind drunk, and know they will be saved by the doctors.

In the past, until quite recently, stupid people just died because they did stupid things and the more clever ones survived through skill and judgement.

Now days, stupid people survive. We are victims of our own success.

There's nothing more dangerous to a human body than pregnancy and giving birth. Men can run away from wars, work, anything external...but women cannot run away from things happening internally within their own bodies, we have to go through with them whether we like it or not, we are trapped and helpless.

The death rate was 50:50 for pregnant women in the past until fairly recently. Now due to modern healthcare, most mothers survive, luckily. But not always.

Pregnancy and birth are never noted, celebrated or even mentioned in life. They are just accepted as a woman's lot, even though we nurture and give birth to actual, live humans. What an amazing talent that is and how it should be celebrated widely. Some hope of that though in the world designed by and for men.

There was certainly a very high childbirth mortality rate in the 1800s----but it wasn't 50-50. This article estimated the rate at 1 in 8 passing away in the 1880s (a way too high number!)

https://curioushistorian.com/the-realit ... -the-1800s

Obviously, men do not have to go through the trial and pains of pregnancy.

Quite true. Men's curse is to labor for their and their families' bread by their sweat 6 days per week.

See my Longterm visions for the autistic community. See also Autistic Workers Project.


We don't need a full-on autistic town or city. We don't need a fancy blockchain-based DAP either (although some groups within the autistic community might decide to use a DAP).

Instead, we should study the examples of the organized LGBTQ+ community/subculture and various ethnic minority subcultures. These exist in numerous places around the country, primarily in the larger cities.

These subcultures are decentralized, consisting of many groups, both formal and informal, plus many small businesses.

There are also groups that bring many smaller groups together for specific purposes. For example, here in New York City, the annual LGBTQ+ Pride march is coordinated by Heritage of Pride, which annually puts together and trains a team of parade marshals including representatives of the few hundred other groups that will be marching in the parade. (My point here is NOT necessarily that the autistic community should have an annual march. I'm just mentioning this as an example of the LGBTQ+ community's occasional activities involving numerous smaller groups. Large noisy events like the LGBTQ+ Pride march would probably NOT be the autistic community's forte.)

In some cities, once enough groups have formed, it might be possible to raise money for a community center, a place where numerous groups could each hold their meetings/events, similar to NYC's LGBT Community Center. But this would not be able to happen until the community is already much better developed as an organized subculture than it is now.

I'd never heard of a 50% death rate. That does not seem sustainable, and is certainly not observed in any other species. However, I agree that dealing with a womb is a huge burden, and one that is hard to avoid. My mother gave birth under general anaesthesia, and remarked that her first baby felt like a total stranger. She seems to have felt the same about me.

For most of history, humans could barely maintain their population numbers, so every womb was precious, and men died to protect them. Even now, when a boatload of parched refugees is found, experienced rescue workers head straight for the young fathers, who are always the closest to death from dehydration. Men also go on lonely journeys to work and support a family, while getting scant comfort from it. Men die from suicide at much higher rates than women. In Canada, we have a much-celebrated study on the missing and murdered indigenous women and girls, while twice as many men and boys are adamantly ignored.

I had a few thoughts hit me when I read the articles you wrote lined under the first blurb:

1) Establishing basins of attraction would be very important. What's needed are structural incentive-drivers for that, of the kind that would establish positive feedback loops in terms of growth.

2) If there's any voting schema within these groups you'd probably want to look at quadratic voting - that's been quite a hot concept lately and Luis Razo Bravo had Michael Freedman on recently to discuss that.

3) Well worth looking at GameB, The Consilience Project, and a lot of what Daniel Schmachtenberger has been discussing - pretty much anywhere he goes. Great discussions regarding 'Moloch' dynamics and his variety of thoughts on what technologies can actually be used to combat multipolar traps both impinging on and within organizations.

4) For autistic to autistic social skills and 'syncing' in terms of authentic communication look up Guy Sengstock's 'Circling'. It might be a bit much for some people but some format similar to that where the rules encourage honest and authentic communication between people, such as telling people what's 'live' for them at the moment, is helpful for establishing norms between people that allow for that. If there also needs to be a commons for communication which isn't like that they'd have to be clearly delineated by open and close signals. Forrest Landry has also written some things for GameB regarding proto-B's and ideas for governance.

The gist is that a lot of what you're probably looking for in terms of social technology and ideas related to that are very much things that GameB is involved with. Really I think if there's a massive autism advocacy network and even support structure it would probably in its own ways have a lot of overlap with GameB and GameB ways of thinking.

I'm in the middle of a work crisis, had a brief moment to key this up, but I'll see if I can come up with anything a bit more specific on some of these later.

Thanks for calling my attention to these matters.

I've taken some brief notes on the above and will Google some of this stuff later. Also, I would appreciate it very much if you could post links to sources you especially recommend.

Perhaps some of it will be worth discussing in future chat meetings of the Autistic Peer Leadership Group?

Note: For the purpose of being discussed in an online chat meeting, online text-based articles (non-paywalled) are better than videos or podcasts. Concise, well-organized, short yet substantive articles are best.

Some of the issues you mentioned, e.g. voting procedures, don't look especially relevant to informal small groups, but will become important as groups grow big to become formally organized.