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22 Aug 2007, 1:10 pm

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I believe in god in my own way.
But think about the old religions, like the greek gods. Do we have more proof then them?


I personally do, and many of my friends and family personally do.


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22 Aug 2007, 1:11 pm

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That Jesus existed is historical fact.


What is the evidence for this?

Use the internet if you're really interested. Jesus' historical existence is a well known, secularly-documented fact.


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22 Aug 2007, 1:22 pm

Blah blah. Even if he was a real human person, that's no proof god exists.

How can anyone believe in God without feeling like an idiot in this day and age?


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22 Aug 2007, 1:28 pm

Ragtime wrote:
LKL wrote:
JonnyBGoode wrote:
That Jesus existed is historical fact.


What is the evidence for this?

Use the internet if you're really interested. Jesus' historical existence is a well known, secularly-documented fact.

That seems to be what he was doing. There is proof of a man named Jesus, but no proof he actually did any of the stuff the Bible says or implies.



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22 Aug 2007, 1:41 pm

EatingPoetry wrote:
Blah blah. Even if he was a real human person, that's no proof god exists.

How can anyone believe in God without feeling like an idiot in this day and age?


What does "this day and age" have to do with the probability of God?


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22 Aug 2007, 1:42 pm

Perhaps you've heard of Science?


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22 Aug 2007, 1:43 pm

Hadron wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
LKL wrote:
JonnyBGoode wrote:
That Jesus existed is historical fact.


What is the evidence for this?

Use the internet if you're really interested. Jesus' historical existence is a well known, secularly-documented fact.

That seems to be what he was doing. There is proof of a man named Jesus, but no proof he actually did any of the stuff the Bible says or implies.


Lack of evidence is usually not the reason people don't believe in Jesus as God. That they have every worldly incentive not to usually comes into play.


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22 Aug 2007, 1:45 pm

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Perhaps you've heard of Science?


Yes.


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22 Aug 2007, 1:48 pm

Good. Now try studying it. And don't be afraid if all the questions in the Universe aren't immediately answered. God was born of fear. There can be unanswered questions, it's okay.


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22 Aug 2007, 1:50 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Hadron wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
LKL wrote:
JonnyBGoode wrote:
That Jesus existed is historical fact.


What is the evidence for this?

Use the internet if you're really interested. Jesus' historical existence is a well known, secularly-documented fact.

That seems to be what he was doing. There is proof of a man named Jesus, but no proof he actually did any of the stuff the Bible says or implies.


Lack of evidence is usually not the reason people don't believe in Jesus as God. That they have every worldly incentive not to usually comes into play.

So what is the reason people don't believe in Jesus and God, according to you?


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22 Aug 2007, 1:56 pm

Ragtime, how the f**k do you know why other people don't believe in your god?



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22 Aug 2007, 1:57 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Hadron wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
LKL wrote:
JonnyBGoode wrote:
That Jesus existed is historical fact.


What is the evidence for this?

Use the internet if you're really interested. Jesus' historical existence is a well known, secularly-documented fact.

That seems to be what he was doing. There is proof of a man named Jesus, but no proof he actually did any of the stuff the Bible says or implies.


Lack of evidence is usually not the reason people don't believe in Jesus as God. That they have every worldly incentive not to usually comes into play.


Yes, pray tell, what is my worldy incentive not to? This should be good.


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22 Aug 2007, 1:58 pm

This thread stinks of religion.



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22 Aug 2007, 1:59 pm

Ragtime wrote:
TheMidnightJudge wrote:
I believe in god in my own way.
But think about the old religions, like the greek gods. Do we have more proof then them?


I personally do, and many of my friends and family personally do.

Yes I've read you said before that you personally know God, I wonder how that works exactly.

I remember you saying something about being spiritual and stuff like that, but this "spiritual" experience seems to be part of the pscychological experience from religion to me.


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22 Aug 2007, 2:23 pm

EatingPoetry wrote:
Good. Now try studying it. And don't be afraid if all the questions in the Universe aren't immediately answered. God was born of fear. There can be unanswered questions, it's okay.


Actually, I'm quite calm and secure about the most major matters of my life.

"For God has not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind" (2 Tim 1:7).


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22 Aug 2007, 2:25 pm

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Ragtime, how the f**k do you know why other people don't believe in your god?


How do I know human nature? Don't most people? People would rather be their own god than worship another; that's basic!


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