White Muslims?

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Go with it.
Maybe these guys are employed by the companies that put all the logo's on "western" clothing. I certainly can't think why someone in traditional clothing should even turn a head. Look at previous posts and you'll find people can't tell Muslims by appearance. Still, funny old thing prejudice, they now recant and claim it looks strange.

What? im not sure what your trying to say but if you have an allegation to make about me try to be a bit clearer about it.

If you wish to give fashion advice then perhaps finding someone interested in fashion would be a good place to start.

If you want to give anyone advice then perhaps finding someone interested in it would be a good place to start.

Sorry, I took this as a request for clarification/

If you look more carefully you will see i didnt give fashion advice. Maybe you should read what i posted first.

i go away for a few days, and the MEN turn it into a fashion debate. do i need to state the obvious...?

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going back to the origional topic, in my opinion if it is regards to religious belief and does not pose a danger to others or break any laws, it is the individuals decision what they wear.

If there is a traditional dress for your religous belief and you wish to dress in that manner, who am i to say that you may not do so.

what does get me steamed up is people who take the mickey out of others religious belief by imitating the way they dress.

just my tuppence worth

baby

First of all i don know anyone who would go to all that bother unless it is a comedy sketch or a fancy dress occasion. Everything else in the world, particularly dress, gets the mickey taken out of it all the time in these situations. What makes religious dress so special that it should avoid going through the same?

ok firstly as i stated what i wrote is purely my opinion, not related to what anybody else should or should not think in anyway.

personally i feel how a person wishes to dress is their own decision and should not be influenced by others although in todays society it often is, however if someone is dressed in a certain way due to their religion what right do i have to say that it is not allowed,

okay perhaps a better way of saying this is that people should not be singled out due to their religious dress, unfortunatly sometimes people are subjected to things because they for example are wearing a hajib (hope i spelt that right) i have heard it said, well it doesn't require them to wear that all the time in their religious writings, their just doing it for attention so on and so forth.
but if that person feels that they need to wear that type of garment because of their belief then it is up to them.

sorry if i caused any confusion in my origional post hope this irons it out

baby

people can be muslim if they want. cat stevens, for example? they can convert if it's what they truly believe as opposed to what they were raised to believe. well, that's just my way of putting it at least. some people convert for their families, some for their beliefs. everyone has a good reason, right?

I go to school with a white Muslim. He's half Palestinian-Lebanese and half American.

Yes, we need to do something about it. We need to fight the terrorists and the regimes that sponsor them.

As for the rest of your post, I totally disagree. These terrorist acts that are being carried out by Islamofascists are acts of evil. It’s that simple. It’s a total fallacy to believe that just because people are prepared to commit acts of barbarism that they must have a legitimate grievance. And trying to appease these people will not stop them. It will only encourage them, because it will show them that terrorism works.

And saying that these terrorist acts are political and not religious doesn’t make sense, because for the Islamofascists there is no separation between religion and politics. They want the whole world to submit to Islam.

The Iraq war might have been used by these Islamists as a recruiting tool -- as a way of brainwashing fellow Muslims into believing there’s some sort of Judeo-Christian anti-Muslim conspiracy at work in the world today (never mind the fact that in recent years the West has come to the aid of Muslims in Kuwait, Bosnia, Kosovo and Somalia) – but what excuse do the Islamists have for all the terrorist acts they committed before the Iraq war?

What about 9/11? Please don’t mention Palestine. The Palestinian conflict is solely a result of the Arabs’ refusal to acknowledge Israel’s right to exist. The Arabs were given over a million square miles of land after the break up of the Ottoman Empire, and they refuse to acknowledge the right (enshrined in international law) to exist of one tiny Jewish state among them, despite the fact that Jews had lived in the area continuously for thousands of years.
The Palestinians were offered a state in 1937, 1948, 1967 and 2000, and each time they said no, because it would have meant agreeing to a peace with Israel. The Palestinians have been defeated in wars of aggression they've started against Israel in 1948 and 1967, not to mention their siding with the Nazis in World War 2, and they still expect to be treated as equals around the negotiating table.

So what about Bali (both times)? Or what about the recent foiled terrorist plot to attack the Paris Metro? (That’s Paris, France – a country that opposed the Iraq war. Note that Islamists also attacked the Paris Metro in 1995.)

As Hussein Massawi, the Hezbollah leader behind the Beirut bombings 20 years ago, said: “We are not fighting so that you will offer us something. We are fighting to eliminate you.” This is the Islamofascist mindset.

At least the IRA and ETA actually each have realistic demands, namely independence for the Irish and the Basques (not that I think they should be met - not as a reward for terrorism). The Islamofascists won’t stop till the whole world under Islamic rule and they are free to persecute Jews, Christians, homosexuals and other infidels (if there are any non-Muslims still alive that is).
And people can bang on about the nasty old Crusades 900 odd years ago and all the evils committed in the name of Christianity (all undeniable), but the truth is that in the modern world Islamic terrorism has no equal. It would be helpful if more moderate Muslims could accept this rather than contributing to the mass Muslim persecution complex. Instead we get some moderate Muslims saying that Islamist terrorism has nothing to do with Islam, and others saying the West is somehow partly to blame for it all. Both are untrue.

By the way, the Tibetans have been persecuted by the Chinese for decades, but where are all the Buddhist terrorists?

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It's convenient to assume that, isn't it?

No law of physics prevent it

Eggman, why did you bump a 4 year old thread?

and Tom, Im so very disapointed in you for making this thread!