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07 Apr 2008, 9:39 pm

if more were like you I wouldn't be as bitter as I am today (oh well) :lol:



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07 Apr 2008, 9:39 pm

Averick wrote:
Why control someone else's life?



because their invisible friend tells them to and it is an easy justification for biggotry because most people won't challenge religion....which is why i'm starting to more and more..because others don't.



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07 Apr 2008, 9:42 pm

Kilroy wrote:
if more were like you I wouldn't be as bitter as I am today (oh well) :lol:


Like me? There are lots of us. We just don't get equal press coverage.



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07 Apr 2008, 9:45 pm

yeah but whadda gonna do
you can move to an atheist country, though since the fall of the USSR they are hard to find



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07 Apr 2008, 9:51 pm

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you can move to an atheist country

Wrongplanet? :P


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07 Apr 2008, 9:53 pm

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07 Apr 2008, 9:55 pm

greenblue wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
you can move to an atheist country

Wrongplanet? :P


its not a country...yet 8)



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07 Apr 2008, 10:35 pm

11. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

That is why there are 50 states to choose from. This is because the founding fathers were afraid of a theocracy.


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07 Apr 2008, 10:36 pm

Sorry, gentlemen, but Jesus was a 'lil gay.



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07 Apr 2008, 10:37 pm

Aren't we all...

wait..what?


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07 Apr 2008, 10:41 pm

lol


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08 Apr 2008, 8:35 am

I think Jesus was Asexual, to be honest. Christianity teaches that being gay is a sin. I don't think the orientation is anyone's fault, just like AS or having red hair is. It didn't give anyone permission to sleep around like sluts, though. Perhaps some can try Wicca or Peganism instead?

Anyhow, can we all please stop rambling on? Let's pick a different thread for this! Shall I start one?

And if some of you think your killing the thread by being this way, clearly you have prooven your effort to be in vain, as people like to reply to things that get them emotional or offended. Myself being one of them. :twisted: Of course the OP was the smarter person, and probably already left the thread. :lol:



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08 Apr 2008, 10:04 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Zendell, I leave these people with you. I hope you don't get abused. I'm tired of this crap.

After spdjeanne gave you that facts you asked for and I gave you a serious reply to your argument from design, you declare you're tired of this crap? How about explaining why you think it's crap?

Your argument from design depends on the only function of sex being reproduction. I gave you a biological argument why that doesn't apply to humans and why your premise that only anatomy matters is wrong. Please do show me where the crap is.



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08 Apr 2008, 10:06 am

I'll take that as "Yes I want to hash off in a seperate thread to win the battle." Tooshay! :twisted: Anyway, Imaparekeet left, why try to keep him in the thread replying? (you don't have to answer that. :|)



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08 Apr 2008, 10:40 am

zendell, I never trust wikipedia for anything in the least controversial - remember that it can be edited by literally anyone, without peer review or verification of data. When I look for more data regarding homosexuality and genetics, the vast majority ofthe research seems to have been done by partisan groups, which causes me to distrust their conclusions. Guess I'm just going to have to go get that degree in molecular biology and research it myself.... :)

As to Christianity, Christ never said anything about gays. The issue was addressed in Leviticus, along with a lot of other rules that we're told don't apply to Christians any more (did you know that orthodox Judaism recognizes over 600 commandments?), and in the epistles of Paul, along with other issues that modern theologians tell us need to be "reinterpreted for the modern world" (like the heavy sexism, and the bit about slaves not rebelling, but gladly obeying their masters), but in the Gospels, Christ never said word one about sex in any form. He had quite a bit to say about hypocrisy and arrogance, and about people selling things inside the tabernacle, and even about accepting those who seem different from you (dining with sinners, theological opponents, and tax collectors; hanging out with lepers; the parable of the Samaritan), but nothing about sex.

Thus, it is quite possible to be a good Christian, and still accept homosexuality - provided only that you don't necessarily believe in Biblical inerrancy (and if you do believe in that, I'd like an explanation of how to reconcile a number of contradictions...).


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