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12 Aug 2008, 4:02 am

Why O Why is this still an Issue in the 21 century. For f***s sake move on, peoples sexuality is there own affair. :wall: :wall:


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12 Aug 2008, 1:18 pm

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i swear man....it seems like the hatred towards homosexuality all goes back to an irrational fear of the penis.

you don't see lipstick lesbians getting nearly the hate that homosexual men get.


the dykish lesbians get some hate but, well, who doesn't hate an ugly person? (j/k)


i agree lesbians don't nearly get as much attention/hate/recognition as male homosexuals. there is even the train of thought that female homosexuals are not 'true' homosexuals like their male counterparts who are born into their sexuality. what's with that? a lot of people even immediately assume the term 'gay' soley refers to men.

i'm not gay...well...maybe a little bit :wink: ...but either way I'm so glad I don't live anywhere near the types of people who actively hate gays. in fact just recently, and right down the street even, there was the 30th anniversary of the gay pride parade...could watch it from my doorstep 8) ...unfortunately being far from the "enemy" doesn't often do much to deter them.

sorry i'm not really contributing much to the actually question. i'm just enjoying the conversation :jester:


eh, i'm gonna be getting pretty close to the thick of it pretty soon. moving over to plano, tx (actually about 10 miles north) and that's pretty deep into the bible belt. not looking forward to it.

from the sounds of it....i'm guessing you're in austin? i can't picture many other places in texas actually having a gay pride parade.



Gay Pride Parade- Houston Texas :)

Austin is too much of a drinking/party town. lived there for a year...blech. I did love the environment though...trees, greenbelts, nice weather, hills...etc. just not down with the massive college town I guess. like it more spread out....looking for a town like Austin, but not like it....you know?

but I'm back in Houston now...where the 30th anniversary gay pride parade took place a couple months ago 8)



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13 Aug 2008, 10:34 am

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Sweetie, 500 AD was a LONG time ago. The pope, at the Christian Youth convention in Toronto just a few years ago, condemned homosexuality, and he's supposed to be the infallible authority on christianity.


He IS NOT. Contrary to ignorant blatherings by the mindless, the Pope is only the leader of ONE Christian group, NOT OF ALL OF CHRISTIANITY. He has never been the leader of my Church, and my Church goes back as far as his does.



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13 Aug 2008, 3:01 pm

stephaniecatherine wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
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i swear man....it seems like the hatred towards homosexuality all goes back to an irrational fear of the penis.

you don't see lipstick lesbians getting nearly the hate that homosexual men get.


the dykish lesbians get some hate but, well, who doesn't hate an ugly person? (j/k)


i agree lesbians don't nearly get as much attention/hate/recognition as male homosexuals. there is even the train of thought that female homosexuals are not 'true' homosexuals like their male counterparts who are born into their sexuality. what's with that? a lot of people even immediately assume the term 'gay' soley refers to men.

i'm not gay...well...maybe a little bit :wink: ...but either way I'm so glad I don't live anywhere near the types of people who actively hate gays. in fact just recently, and right down the street even, there was the 30th anniversary of the gay pride parade...could watch it from my doorstep 8) ...unfortunately being far from the "enemy" doesn't often do much to deter them.

sorry i'm not really contributing much to the actually question. i'm just enjoying the conversation :jester:


eh, i'm gonna be getting pretty close to the thick of it pretty soon. moving over to plano, tx (actually about 10 miles north) and that's pretty deep into the bible belt. not looking forward to it.

from the sounds of it....i'm guessing you're in austin? i can't picture many other places in texas actually having a gay pride parade.



Gay Pride Parade- Houston Texas :)

Austin is too much of a drinking/party town. lived there for a year...blech. I did love the environment though...trees, greenbelts, nice weather, hills...etc. just not down with the massive college town I guess. like it more spread out....looking for a town like Austin, but not like it....you know?

but I'm back in Houston now...where the 30th anniversary gay pride parade took place a couple months ago 8)



ah....hope you're enjoying my fellow misplaced new orleanians. i still giggle a bit thinking about how much houston's crime rate shot up after the hurricane.

new orleans has a more interesting gay thing...not a pride parade...the southern decadence festival.



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13 Aug 2008, 3:02 pm

Dogbrain wrote:
michel wrote:
Sweetie, 500 AD was a LONG time ago. The pope, at the Christian Youth convention in Toronto just a few years ago, condemned homosexuality, and he's supposed to be the infallible authority on christianity.


He IS NOT. Contrary to ignorant blatherings by the mindless, the Pope is only the leader of ONE Christian group, NOT OF ALL OF CHRISTIANITY. He has never been the leader of my Church, and my Church goes back as far as his does.


unless you're greek orthodox, i seriously doubt it goes back as far.



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13 Aug 2008, 4:01 pm

Dogbrain wrote:
michel wrote:
Sweetie, 500 AD was a LONG time ago. The pope, at the Christian Youth convention in Toronto just a few years ago, condemned homosexuality, and he's supposed to be the infallible authority on christianity.


He IS NOT. Contrary to ignorant blatherings by the mindless, the Pope is only the leader of ONE Christian group, NOT OF ALL OF CHRISTIANITY. He has never been the leader of my Church, and my Church goes back as far as his does.

Ask him (the pope), according to him, he is. He had stated before that only Catholics are "real" Christians, anyway, what would be your Church's views on homosexuality, if it's not too much to ask?


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15 Aug 2008, 2:30 am

DentArthurDent wrote:
Why O Why is this still an Issue in the 21 century. For f**** sake move on, peoples sexuality is there own affair. :wall: :wall:
I wonder this myself, but then I remember that me being multiracial is still reason enough for people to shun or attack me here.



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15 Aug 2008, 7:13 am

skafather84 wrote:
Dogbrain wrote:
michel wrote:
Sweetie, 500 AD was a LONG time ago. The pope, at the Christian Youth convention in Toronto just a few years ago, condemned homosexuality, and he's supposed to be the infallible authority on christianity.


He IS NOT. Contrary to ignorant blatherings by the mindless, the Pope is only the leader of ONE Christian group, NOT OF ALL OF CHRISTIANITY. He has never been the leader of my Church, and my Church goes back as far as his does.


unless you're greek orthodox, i seriously doubt it goes back as far.


Guess what, I'm Orthodox. MINE DOES GO BACK AS FAR! Chew on that one.



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15 Aug 2008, 7:13 am

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Dogbrain wrote:
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Sweetie, 500 AD was a LONG time ago. The pope, at the Christian Youth convention in Toronto just a few years ago, condemned homosexuality, and he's supposed to be the infallible authority on christianity.


He IS NOT. Contrary to ignorant blatherings by the mindless, the Pope is only the leader of ONE Christian group, NOT OF ALL OF CHRISTIANITY. He has never been the leader of my Church, and my Church goes back as far as his does.

Ask him (the pope), according to him, he is.


And he's wrong.



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15 Aug 2008, 7:50 am

The Nazi Pope infallable??? What a joke!


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15 Aug 2008, 8:13 am

Malsane wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
Why O Why is this still an Issue in the 21 century. For f**** sake move on, peoples sexuality is there own affair. :wall: :wall:
I wonder this myself, but then I remember that me being multiracial is still reason enough for people to shun or attack me here.



People attack others because they don't like others being different so they lash out as a way to comfort the fact they are uncomfortable with difference. Its human nature to fear difference but its also human nature to accept difference once we learn it is ok some people never let their brain and heart talk.



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18 Aug 2008, 1:31 am

no. no. Though my religous belief do not see homosexuallity as bad.



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18 Aug 2008, 1:36 am

philosopherBoi wrote:
Malsane wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
Why O Why is this still an Issue in the 21 century. For f**** sake move on, peoples sexuality is there own affair. :wall: :wall:
I wonder this myself, but then I remember that me being multiracial is still reason enough for people to shun or attack me here.



People attack others because they don't like others being different so they lash out as a way to comfort the fact they are uncomfortable with difference. Its human nature to fear difference but its also human nature to accept difference once we learn it is ok some people never let their brain and heart talk.


The only reason sexuality seems to be such a big issue today is because it's been disproportionately trumped up. Whatever happened to "love thy neighbor as thyself"?



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18 Aug 2008, 4:46 am

ToadOfSteel wrote:
philosopherBoi wrote:
Malsane wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
Why O Why is this still an Issue in the 21 century. For f**** sake move on, peoples sexuality is there own affair. :wall: :wall:
I wonder this myself, but then I remember that me being multiracial is still reason enough for people to shun or attack me here.



People attack others because they don't like others being different so they lash out as a way to comfort the fact they are uncomfortable with difference. Its human nature to fear difference but its also human nature to accept difference once we learn it is ok some people never let their brain and heart talk.


The only reason sexuality seems to be such a big issue today is because it's been disproportionately trumped up. Whatever happened to "love thy neighbor as thyself"?


It got trammeled all over by the church mainly a certain one that's HQ is is Rome and starts with a V.

As social beliefs changed so did the church's views in two ways.

First of all priest, preachers, monks etc. died who did not believe homosexuality was a sin they were replaced by those who did.
Second the Church caved in under pressure it feels good when people praise you but it feels bad when they look down upon you. So as public option changed slowly acceptance died and those in front of the congregation changed what they were talking about until it was the same as the social belief.


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18 Aug 2008, 5:38 am

People fear what they don't understand. Myself, I think it's silly from an evolutionally perspective. From unbiased and non religious perspective, I don't care what they do.



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18 Aug 2008, 10:47 pm

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The Bible says "No man shall live in with another man."

The Bible also says, "Love thy neighbor."

So is The Word of God contradicting itself?


Yes and no.

This one of many challenges of Scripture, trying to reconcile Jesus' simple commandment with other, more complex exhortations found elsewhere in the Bible. The Bible can easily become hate-literature if you forget that you are commanded by Christ to love your neighbour. If, as a Christian, you allow yourself to become a persecutor of homosexuals because of Leviticus, you've failed. The Christian faith is not simply an ongoing crusade against gayness. If you can love your gay neighbour, if you remember that every man's salvation is between him and God, then you will be on the straight and narrow. Loving your neighbour takes priority over any condemnation you might hurl at him.