Will religion die out?

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The problem is not with religion in and of itself.

It's with the people who abuse it and twist it around for their own gain.

How true is that? That is a simple truth that explains so much of human history, in one neat little sentence.

Posting as neither atheist or religious person :

If the phrase "history repeats itself" rings true, then I would predict atheists would kill others who hold other belief systems once they organised themselves into a strong institution.

Christians, for example, went from persecuted to persecutors (crusades, inquisition, etc.) but only because they were properly organised under an extremely powerful institution that was the Catholic Church, who, being the highly adaptable system that it is, knew very well how to maintain it`s influence.

I hope that my post doesn`t hold any major inaccuracy and I especially hope it makes sense - verbal thoughts are particularly difficult to organise today.

The Catholic Church is not the murderous monster it once was, although it has yet to rid itself of corruption. We all know there is basically a pedophile ring operating from within its ranks, and who knows how deep this conspiracy goes? All the way to Ratzinger?

That`s possibly partly because it`s been fragmented and is no longer hand in hand with any State.

As for the pedophiles, I find that to be only a small part of the whole irony linked with religion and moral codes.

This whole thing with the pedophile priests is a perfect illustration of how Satan delights in mocking God.

To me it just says how no matter how hard you try, God will never be found wandering in the depths of human nature.

One strong reason why religion is so meaningless to me. It`s just incomprehensible.

Religion would be pretty incomprehensible and meaningless if you didn't understand people. I think I see where you're coming from.

What I believe is the exact opposite of this ^

Religion will never die out though I believe that it will develop and become less institutional and dogmatic and more mystical and spiritual.

Karl Marx wrote that religion is "the heart of a heartless world." Here is the whole quotation: http://www.age-of-the-sage.org/quotatio ... eople.html .

Anyway consumerism is now the prevailing religion, the opium of the people.

People are more real. They`re way easier to understand. Even my overly abundant imagination can`t get me closer to understanding the impossible.



Which of the opposites are you referring to?

That it is a metaphorical Satan who lurks there? That human nature will never find God? Or that if you try hard enough, human nature will find God?

All of the above, but I'd rather not argue about it.

Consumerism is more a matter of people following their greedy and materialistic instincts. I'd say it's default behaviour and hardly constitutes a 'religion'.

It's like everything else left in the hands of man. Somebody's bound to f**k it up.