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28 Feb 2017, 9:16 pm

My brain is an absolute hodgepodge, then, and probably patchwork, too.

I have both conservative and liberal viewpoints.



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28 Feb 2017, 9:17 pm

Nancy Pelosi looks pissed. :mrgreen: That's always a delight to see.


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28 Feb 2017, 9:18 pm

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Misslizard wrote:
Why don't the prolifers on here put their money where their mouth is.Any of you adopted or taken in a foster kid?Why not?You care so much about a few cells but nothing for the kids once they are born.Why don't you have a foster kid? Maybe becuse you just don't want to be bothered with one,doesn't fit into your plans.Well guess what,you are no better than the woman that has an abortion for the same reasons.If you truly gave a s**t about the kids,you'd do something real for them instead of worrying so much that a woman has a clump of cells that aren't even a child yet aborted.Adopt,be a foster parent,show you really care and it's just not lip service.Don't say oh I have a job,I can't take care of a kid.Well,you are expecting the same of single mothers.
https://www.fosterclub.com/article/stat ... oster-care

It is not about logic, or genuine concern for other people. They want to hurt people who do things they find disgusting.


An article on a number of studies on brain structure and political affiliation. I should note that none of these studies, as far as I am aware, could determine cause and effect. It's notable that political preference tends to group geographically so I suspect a person raised in a conservative environment would more likely be conservative, and a person raised in a liberal environment, would more likely be liberal. However I believe there is also some degree of intentional grouping. I believe liberals from more conservative environments are more likely to gravitate towards liberal environments, and conservatives from liberal environments are more likely to gravitate towards conservative environments.

The general takeaway from the argument is that among those who consider themselves conservative, you find a greater number of people who have an emotional basis and among those who consider themselves liberal, you find a greater number of people who have a more analytical basis.

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First, let's take a look at the liberal brain. Studies have found that, on average, the brains of liberals have greater volume in a region known as the anterior cingulate cortex (ACC). This area has been linked to several functions, including conflict detection, which enables us to regulate our behavior by identifying discrepancies between instinctual, habit-driven impulses and our actual intentions. So whether you're swerving to dodge a deer that's abruptly run onto the road, or halting before eating that one rotten grape from the fruit bowl, you can thank your ACC for its conflict detection capabilities.

Beyond its greater size, the ACC of the liberal brain also fires more frequently while detecting these differences between instinct and intention. In a political context, this may enable liberals to approach policy issues with greater sensitivity to when their habitual tendencies are ill suited for addressing the issue at hand.

The conservative brain, on the other hand, has greater volume in a region called the amygdala, an almond-shaped structure implicated in emotional and fear-based learning. In one study, researchers found that when conservatives hear shocking noise stimuli, such as a blast of white noise, they exhibit more fearful instinctual reactions as measured by blink response, an indicator of amygdala activity. These findings have led some to speculate that larger and more sensitive amygdalae in conservatives may cause them to be more driven by fear and emotional rewards.

In another study, researchers investigated the emotional differences between the two groups and found that when faced with risky decision-making, the amygdalae of Republicans fire at a greater rate than those of Democrats. This suggests that Republicans might be relatively more influenced by emotions in their decision-making process. What's more, a study found that conservatives were aroused to a greater extent than liberals when shown disturbing images, such as those depicting infested wounds. Simply put, it appears that the conservative brain is more sensitive to stimuli that carry emotional weight.


Full Article

Jonathan Haidt's book, The Righteous Mind, summarizes the research into even more differences, and suggests that liberals will have to expand their sense of ethics beyond doing harm to others in order to have broader appeal.


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28 Feb 2017, 9:19 pm

Oh come on LOL....it's not like it's the Second Coming or something!

He's just a mortal man.



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28 Feb 2017, 9:19 pm

Yea for the pipeline!


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28 Feb 2017, 9:20 pm

jrjones9933 wrote:
Chronos wrote:
jrjones9933 wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Why don't the prolifers on here put their money where their mouth is.Any of you adopted or taken in a foster kid?Why not?You care so much about a few cells but nothing for the kids once they are born.Why don't you have a foster kid? Maybe becuse you just don't want to be bothered with one,doesn't fit into your plans.Well guess what,you are no better than the woman that has an abortion for the same reasons.If you truly gave a s**t about the kids,you'd do something real for them instead of worrying so much that a woman has a clump of cells that aren't even a child yet aborted.Adopt,be a foster parent,show you really care and it's just not lip service.Don't say oh I have a job,I can't take care of a kid.Well,you are expecting the same of single mothers.
https://www.fosterclub.com/article/stat ... oster-care

It is not about logic, or genuine concern for other people. They want to hurt people who do things they find disgusting.


An article on a number of studies on brain structure and political affiliation. I should note that none of these studies, as far as I am aware, could determine cause and effect. It's notable that political preference tends to group geographically so I suspect a person raised in a conservative environment would more likely be conservative, and a person raised in a liberal environment, would more likely be liberal. However I believe there is also some degree of intentional grouping. I believe liberals from more conservative environments are more likely to gravitate towards liberal environments, and conservatives from liberal environments are more likely to gravitate towards conservative environments.

The general takeaway from the argument is that among those who consider themselves conservative, you find a greater number of people who have an emotional basis and among those who consider themselves liberal, you find a greater number of people who have a more analytical basis.

Article wrote:
First, let's take a look at the liberal brain. Studies have found that, on average, the brains of liberals have greater volume in a region known as the anterior cingulate cortex (ACC). This area has been linked to several functions, including conflict detection, which enables us to regulate our behavior by identifying discrepancies between instinctual, habit-driven impulses and our actual intentions. So whether you're swerving to dodge a deer that's abruptly run onto the road, or halting before eating that one rotten grape from the fruit bowl, you can thank your ACC for its conflict detection capabilities.

Beyond its greater size, the ACC of the liberal brain also fires more frequently while detecting these differences between instinct and intention. In a political context, this may enable liberals to approach policy issues with greater sensitivity to when their habitual tendencies are ill suited for addressing the issue at hand.

The conservative brain, on the other hand, has greater volume in a region called the amygdala, an almond-shaped structure implicated in emotional and fear-based learning. In one study, researchers found that when conservatives hear shocking noise stimuli, such as a blast of white noise, they exhibit more fearful instinctual reactions as measured by blink response, an indicator of amygdala activity. These findings have led some to speculate that larger and more sensitive amygdalae in conservatives may cause them to be more driven by fear and emotional rewards.

In another study, researchers investigated the emotional differences between the two groups and found that when faced with risky decision-making, the amygdalae of Republicans fire at a greater rate than those of Democrats. This suggests that Republicans might be relatively more influenced by emotions in their decision-making process. What's more, a study found that conservatives were aroused to a greater extent than liberals when shown disturbing images, such as those depicting infested wounds. Simply put, it appears that the conservative brain is more sensitive to stimuli that carry emotional weight.


Full Article

Jonathan Haidt's book, The Righteous Mind, summarizes the research into even more differences, and suggests that liberals will have to expand their sense of ethics beyond doing harm to others in order to have broader appeal.


You mean as in learning how to appeal to emotionality?



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28 Feb 2017, 9:21 pm

Applause from Warren. Cool. Show me the jobs.


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28 Feb 2017, 9:23 pm

Law at the borders! And THE WALL!


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28 Feb 2017, 9:24 pm

Chronos wrote:
You mean as in learning how to appeal to emotionality?

Yes. He makes a good case for all of use being more ruled by emotionality than we think. However, conservatives have a broader range of issues about which they become emotional. Just appealing to concern about the harm our actions do to other people can't get you a majority, according to my understanding of the research he cites. I enjoyed it a lot, as the book smashed my preconceptions.


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28 Feb 2017, 9:25 pm

Radical Islamic Terrorism! At least this President can say it!


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28 Feb 2017, 9:25 pm

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Law at the borders! And THE WALL!

There seems to be some agreement that all the weirdos outside our borders are the enemy. I think I want to get outside that wall before it gets built.

Also, learn to edit.

Obama was making the country a sanctuary for extremists? Give me a damn break!


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28 Feb 2017, 9:26 pm

The Wall will do nothing. People will still dig tunnels.

But I can't disagree on the "radical Islamic terrorism." But please don't construe that statement as meaning that all Muslims are radical.



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28 Feb 2017, 9:27 pm

Yea for Israel!


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28 Feb 2017, 9:28 pm

The Constitution Rules!


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28 Feb 2017, 9:28 pm

"lawless savages" is simply inaccurate, but I can get behind "extinguishing the vile enemy" of Daesh.


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The Constitution Rules!

I put it to you that this president could list at most 2 entire amendments.


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