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With all the problems we're having with our govts, Russian army is quite the opposite of cure to them.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine ... ays-2022-6

Cases of desertion are growing among Ukrainian forces suffering significant losses in Russia's artillery onslaught, report says

One hundred seven days into Putin's invasion of Ukraine, reports are emerging that the Ukrainian military is experiencing "massive losses," and cases of desertion are growing, an intelligence report says.

A military report by The Independent has shown that, for every artillery piece Ukraine has, Russia has 20, in the worsening situation in the Donbas, in eastern Ukraine.

The report also shows that Russia has 40 times the supply of artillery ammunition. They also have a longer range.

Deputy head of military intelligence in Ukraine, Vadym Skibitsky, has said that the force is almost "out of ammunition," the Guardian reports.

"Our western partners have given us about 10% of what they have," he said, explaining that Ukraine is now dependent on Western donations of supplies.

While the courage and resistance of the Ukrainian military have been a theme since the start of the war, there is concern that it's starting to waver.

The North Vietnamese and Vietcong, combined, had maybe 10% of the firepower of the combined American and South Vietnamese forces.

Yet.....they fought the US/South Vietnamese to a draw for a long time. Through guerilla tactics. Maybe Ukraine will do the same?

That might happen but the human cost would be monumental. The more international support in the form of conventional military assets as well as humanitarian aid, the better.

Definitely.
There are reasons why American Vietnam veterans seems to have more prominent psychological trauma.
The way of warfare used there and the breadth of war involved the participants of every force facing the war were traumatized. Of course, the biggest victims are local people, and the corresponding subjects of this thread, are Ukrainians.
No one would like to see such a tragedy happen in the 21st century.

In addition, such a situation requires complex campaign terrain as a prerequisite.
Ukraine is a great plains.

Except for the agressors :/
Okay, they would also like to have it easy - but they didn't step back when the easy route failed.

In the South.
Around Kyiv, it's marshes, forests and countless rivers.
Cities are good terrain for guerilla fighting - that's probably why Russians attempt to raze them to the ground with artillery before attacking with land units.

I believe I've said before that I think the assault on Kyiv was a feint. The people they sent on that mission were expendable. They have sent the élite units to the East.

Unlikely.
There were about 30 000 men, including special operation units, airborne forces and Kadyrovites involved in assault on Kyiv.
Russians captured the airport and were awaiting transport of reinforcements that failed to land because of successful Ukrainian counter-attack on the airport.

The assault on Kyiv failed not because they didn't try but because they massively underestimated the resistance.

Well if that had been their strategy it seems to be working.

The Russians wanted to take over the capital, Kiev, and establish a puppet government in Ukraine.

I think starting with 190 000 troops, they could really have done better if they used any realistic strategy right from the start.
They started with a false assumption that they were "liberating Ukrainian people from corrupted nazis of a failed state" or something like this, so they expected to be welcome and supported by the local population.
When planning a war, you should never believe in your own propaganda.

You are correct, although the assault on Kyiv had two purposes :

1. An attempt to collapse the Ukraine leadership via shock of being in the capital and ending the war without a fight, this failed. It this was a bit like the failed attempt by US in trying to take out Sadam on the first day before the 1993 invasion.

2. A feint. Ukraine forces totalled around 600,000 approx everything included, Russia 200,000 aprox. The accepted rule of war states an invasion force needs a 3 to 1 numerical advantage over a defensive force. Russia had around 30,000 men or so near Kyiv which is about the attendence of a mid level local football game here in the UK, but an absurdly low amount needed to fight and take a capital city of a few million. The objective was to keep the Ukrainian army fixed & busy protecting the capital while they shaped the battlefield in their favour & took the south.

This is confirmed by Scott Ritter. He`s a controversial figure and im not sure i like him much, but he knows war as a former marine who`s also been around top levels of the military intelligence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qQrQCBYQXE

Another good video this man appears to know what he’s talking about

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=01vmBRfp4wQ

↑ William Scott Ritter Jr. was the subject in two law enforcement sting operations in 2001.  He was charged in June 2001 with trying to set up a meeting with an undercover police officer posing as a 16-year-old girl.  He was charged with a misdemeanor crime of "attempted endangerment of the welfare of a child".

Ritter was arrested again in November 2009 over communications with a police decoy he met on an Internet chat site.  Police said that he exposed himself, via a web camera, after the officer repeatedly identified himself as a 15-year-old girl.  The next month, Ritter waived his right to a preliminary hearing and was released on a $25,000 unsecured bail. Charges included "unlawful contact with a minor, criminal use of a communications facility, corruption of minors, indecent exposure, possessing instruments of crime, criminal attempt and criminal solicitation".  Ritter rejected a plea bargain and was found guilty of all but the criminal attempt count in a courtroom in Monroe County, Pennsylvania, on April 14, 2011.  In October 2011, he received a sentence of 1½ to 5½ years in prison.  He was sent to Laurel Highlands state prison in Somerset County, Pennsylvania, in March 2012 and paroled in September 2014.

On April 6, 2022, Ritter was suspended from Twitter for violating its rule on "harassment and abuse" after he posted a tweet accusing Ukraine of "crimes against humanity," questioning events surrounding the Bucha massacre and calling U.S. President Joe Biden a "war criminal" for allegedly "seeking to shift blame for the Bucha murders" to Russia.

Mr. Ritter has some serious problems with his credibility, ethics, integrity, and morals.

He is not to be trusted.

Like I say I don’t particularly like him much however professionally he does know war and he’s popular on alternative media and appears to know what he’s talking about.

All we have been hearing from the media is that Ukraine is winning.

This is clearly a lie and now that lie is falling apart as more Ukrainian cities get captured and now the media is now admitting things are not going well after all.

Publishing lies like the ghost of kyiv and the “F**k you russia warship” incident.

Although I support Ukraine, I’m neither Slav or Ukrainian so don’t have a dog in this fight myself but would rather listen to someone who told it as it was from the beginning than the media that changes it’s story and publishes propaganda pieces.

Anyway Col Douglas McGreggor is saying the same thing anyway.

Another man who knows war.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sG_8QYURhn0

I don't know what media you look at but my standard set - two Polish and three English-language media, all considered mainstream - is not saying Ukraine is winning, it's saying Ukraine is capable of winning with enough Western support (but not without it). Current most urgent military need: long-range artillery, current most urgent non-military need: grain export.

Russia losing is not the same as Ukraine winning. Wars are very often lose-lose.