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01 Mar 2017, 7:38 am

Liberal boogeyman don't hold up when held against the light, people that have actually listened to Trump speak are never surprised by his performances. Trump is a gifted orator and he has amazing speech writers, Stephen Miller has been a guy on my radar since the first time I saw him and he's delivered when counted on to write Trump's biggest speeches. Other people have noticed this which is why they have tried to target Miller, they don't attack the people they aren't afraid of and don't challenge their status quo.

CNN being forced to give Trump some positive coverage is pretty funny, they can't hide the pained look on their faces.

I have a lot of high hopes for what Trump can get done, Democrats need to work with him as he is not a traditional Republican and can reasoned with if treated with respect. Do Democrats care about their constituents or do they only cynically care about power & politics? They need their voice in crafting a replacement to Obamacare, they need their voice when crafting an infrastructure bill, trade or any number of things too so the time for their petty 'resistance' should be over as there is real work to get done.



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01 Mar 2017, 7:45 am

Chuck Schumer is still being an ass. Like I said already, the Demos don't want to try to work with Trump. THEY are the reason Trump can't do his job.

This just proves that NOTHING Trump does well be good enough for the Left. Trump has the power, he needs to just leave them in the dirt and do the job he was elected to do. Don't kiss the Left's ass.


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01 Mar 2017, 7:50 am

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Chuck Schumer is still being an ass. Like I said already, the Demos don't want to try to work with Trump. THEY are the reason Trump can't do his job.


Schumer's face and voice are just permanently stuck that way, I can't stop myself from laughing at him when I see the guy with his glasses hanging half way down his nose. Democrats are really bad a picking national party leaders.



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01 Mar 2017, 8:28 am

Jacoby wrote:
Trump is a gifted orator ...

Hahaa ....yeah, he's big league. 8O



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01 Mar 2017, 8:30 am

I don't think Trump himself would call himself a "gifted orator."



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01 Mar 2017, 8:42 am

guy went around the country giving hour long speeches to crowds of 30k+ almost everywhere he went

he's a gifted orator for sure, maybe the New York Times wouldn't describe him that way but nobody takes NYT elitism and snobbery seriously at this point.



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01 Mar 2017, 8:45 am

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guy went around the country giving hour long speeches to crowds of 30k+ almost everywhere he went

he's a gifted orator for sure, maybe the New York Times wouldn't describe him that way but nobody takes NYT elitism and snobbery seriously at this point.


The length of the speech has nothing to do with the giftedness of the orator. Not sure why you brought up the Times.



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01 Mar 2017, 8:51 am

Trump has been criticising his own oratory skills this week. He gave himself an A+ for effort but only a C for presentation.

His sentences rarely make sense, he struggles to stay on message, and the way he frequently misspeaks has given his opponents plenty of rods for his back. Most notably, he accidentally announced a ban on Muslims coming into America when apparently he meant no such thing. He just wants to ban Muslims from seven countries.

He is good at projecting his voice and making use of gestures, and as long as he doesn't feel under pressure then he is good at emphasising a simplistic point. He has difficulty with nuance and he lets himself get clouded by emotion too easily.



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01 Mar 2017, 8:54 am

There were many great Presidents who weren't "gifted orators."

One example: Harry Truman.

George Washington wasn't regarded as a "gifted orator" when he was President.

Trump is a guy whose appeal lies in the fact that he "talks from the hip."

Obama was a relatively gifted orator, but a very average President.

If Trump were a "gifted orator," I doubt that he would have been elected, frankly.



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01 Mar 2017, 9:50 am

Right now most hate both Trump and the Left. The left is committed to resist in every way, at every time possible. If the Trump we saw last night is for the most part what we see the rest of the way he will be in office eight years the left and never Trump in general will be near outlier status. People will disagree fundementally with policy here and there but a lot of the fear and panic will subside and what remains will look increasingly fanatical. If as I expect last nights Trump is trotted out for certain occasions and the petty, whiney, bullying Trump we have seen for the last 2 years returns America will continue to divide and crash.


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01 Mar 2017, 10:08 am

Another record high in the stock markets today.

Middle class Americans are raking in thousands of dollars in just a few months on the "Trump surge".



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01 Mar 2017, 10:31 am

There was a "surge" in the 1920s. That led to the Great Depression.



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01 Mar 2017, 1:43 pm

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Oh yeah! The Demos are tearing Trump apart.

I say screw them and go around them. That's the only way Trump will get things done.

What a doofus (the Demo governor that was replaced by a Republican - I think he sounded pissed off - a man scorned) :mrgreen:


I get it. You have the joneses for Trump. But do you have to rub those of us who oppose the man faces in excrement?

Yeah, I know....Reported. BE MY GUEST!


I don't report you anymore. You aren't as offensive as you used to be. I'm done reporting people. I just ignore them now. You and I actually agreed on something in one of these threads - forgot exactly what it was though.


Was it because I'm not as liberal as you thought I was? Some of what Trump espouses I've been espousing for at least 45 years, namely, term limits on congress, anti-abortion and the defunding of Planned Parenthood, etc.

I've said it once, I'll say it again: I despise all politicians. Dad was a Borough Councilman when I was in junior high. He rubbed everyone the wrong way, including myself.

You may not be old enough to remember Watergate. I lived through that era, and saw firsthand the bullsh!t on both sides of the aisle in congress, as well as the bullish!t that went on in the Fourth and Fifth estates, as well as the contempt and utter filth that came out of the White House. When one's beliefs are betrayed that badly, one tends to be quite cynical.

Personally, I still think Trump is a horse's ass. That's MY problem. I also think Billery is still a turncoat, ever since she and her husband made the Democratic Party into a poor carbon copy of what used to be the Republican Party of that era. Again, that's MY problem. I'm not even going to discuss Bernie Sanders.

Like I said before, I'm a sour, dour Missouri Synod Lutheran that's also a sour, dour, Pennsylvania Dutchman, who's just tired of catching hell from everybody for being a Mr. Nice Guy, from what my psychologist tells me.


It was the abortion thing and defunding planned parenthood. I actually really liked you over on AC. I don't know exactly where things went wrong, but it was political in nature. I don't mind if people disagree with me, I just don't like any name calling. It's like with Mr. D., we get along just fine, but don't agree on everything. Sounds like the same thing between the two of us. If it wasn't for politics, we'd probably get along just fine.


It was, from the way I saw it, the way you were ripping people a new rear end when they didn't agree with your opinions.

I lived in Northern Illinois and Southern Wisconsin from 1986-1991. One thing I learned while living there was be nice, be polite, and be respectful, even when you disagree. Yes, I had an explosive temper back then. It may take a lot to set me off, but watch out when I blow a gasket. I can still blow a gasket today, but you really got to push me to do so.

In addition, I worked for 5-1/2 years within Department of Defense as a contractor employee. I was sh!t on, like any other contractor, 95% of the time, by the civilian employees. I never had any problems with the uniformed soldiers and sailors, as they were too busy with their assigned duties. The one thing I learned from there, and considering I have relatives that were soldiers, was that, as officers, regardless whether your were enlisted or commissioned, you have to give respect in order to gain respect. To me, the way you were ripping people a new rear end who didn't agree with you, was disrespectful. Therefore, my lost respect comment. My nastiness with you from time to time, was a message to you about your behavior.

In short, and I think you finally figured it out, you don't have to be nasty to be a conservative. If you ever notice between me and Krainchgauer, we don't agree on everything, but we do agree to disagree, and leave it at that. Ditto with Auntblabby, Ass-P, Kraftiekortie, and a few others. Hell, I'd even do the same with Raptor, if he didn't act like a flaming horse's ass most of the time.

Anyhow, after this screed, let's just leave sleeping dog's lie. I have too many other mental, physical and financial problems to worry about, no thanks to some so-called friends, my brothers, and neighbors who consider me to be a jackass for helping a few guys living in a halfway house get to work at Church and Dwight's plant here in York on time. Those bastards won, by threatening to go to PennDOT to have my license permanently revoked for threatening to harm others and commit suicide, and going to the hospital to get help, no thanks to the insults they were hurling against me, as well as those guys for trying to straighten out their lives.


"It was, from the way I saw it, the way you were ripping people a new rear end when they didn't agree with your opinions."

I was trying to be nice, but you just ended up making me mad.

What made me mad with you was that you right out of the blue started calling me a bunch of crap names and even brought up something to the affect of "now I know why you were banned from AC" . You were extremely rude. The "TRUTH" thread is still in print so you can read it - it's all there. Anyone else I got pissed off at was usually because they were coming at me with slurs of Hitler, nazi, bigot, and even using my job against me as being a bad nurse. They have no idea how hard I work. Anyone who is rude to me is going to get it right back. Then you went back to AC and started badmouthing me when I couldn't even stand up for myself. Thank God someone did stand up for me, I still do have friends over there. That's how I remember it.

Forget I even said anything.


Yeah, I should have kept my trap shut. Every time I try to extend an olive branch, people turn around and beat my fat f!cking ass with it. I just got beat with it again this week by my brothers and their wives, just because my car broke down taking people to work. I had to borrow $700.00 from one brother and borrow his wife's Jeep when the timing belt broke in my car last Sunday. The garage it got towed to close to Gettysburg my brother deemed to be a backyard mechanic with a tow truck. The car threw a tensioner pulley for the serpentine belt this past Sunday. The local constabulary called the same towing company, who towed it back to their place of business, and dropped me at my brother's. I got called everything but white for doing that, as well as trying to earn some money taking these people to work. I got the same treatment from another brother and his wife when I asked him to follow me up to the other brother's house. In addition, I got called a lazy mother f!cking bum for being on SSDI. They know I have other medical issues, but they don't give a crock of sh!t. Try explaining to them that it's damn near impossible to land another job at age 60 is like talking to a brick
wall. Ditto for wanting to do a job that I love, namely making and teaching music. Carpal tunnel surgery pretty much eliminated me ever getting my horn out of the case, since the pain is too much. They have 2 low functioning and non verbal kids. They're of the opinion if their kids and others like them can work a 60 hour week, dammit I should be doing 96 hours a week. Excuse me? Doing the 96 hour work week between 3 jobs is how I ended up having a mental breakdown in the first place!

And before you say, why not go to OVR? Been there, Done that 3 times. Each time was a disaster. PA OVR doesn't have the foggiest idea how to handle autistics.



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01 Mar 2017, 6:12 pm

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Why don't the prolifers on here put their money where their mouth is.Any of you adopted or taken in a foster kid?Why not?You care so much about a few cells but nothing for the kids once they are born.Why don't you have a foster kid? Maybe becuse you just don't want to be bothered with one,doesn't fit into your plans.Well guess what,you are no better than the woman that has an abortion for the same reasons.If you truly gave a s**t about the kids,you'd do something real for them instead of worrying so much that a woman has a clump of cells that aren't even a child yet aborted.Adopt,be a foster parent,show you really care and it's just not lip service.Don't say oh I have a job,I can't take care of a kid.Well,you are expecting the same of single mothers.
https://www.fosterclub.com/article/stat ... oster-care


This is like saying if you really cared about refugees you would share your home with them. Or adopt/sponsor a refuge kid for life. So unless you do something extremely proactive about it, you don't have the right to feel passionately about it. Put your money where your mouth is et al.

Nope not the same.
The same prolifers are mostly against welfare,plenty here b***h about it so don't say they care.They don't mind telling someone what to do with their body,but they damm sure don't like it when someone signs up for food stamps.
I'm for refugees being allowed here.Bet most prolifers are not.If I had the funds it's very possible I would sponsor a refugee family.I doubt we could all live on my SSI check.So the best I can do is to send letters to my representatives and sign petitions.I do what I can.Have you been to a prolife rally yet?I can respect those that do,they have a right to stand and up for their beleif.Do you do more than post here?Write your representative,call the White House?Put your money where your mouth is.


1) Re: food stamps ... I'm part of a group that helps support a local food pantry. As well, I believe food stamps are fine for those who truly need them.

2) Refugees ... I visited a Laotian refugee family way back when I was a kid, because even then I wanted to reach out. As for modern-day refugees, it's a matter of how it's handled ... keeping the right balance between welcoming those truly in need while at the same time protecting our borders.

3) As for adopting, well, as an Aspie, I do what I can ... My sister and her husband have adopted two children from Latin America who otherwise would have been abandoned, and I'm the godmother of one of them, and very close to the other one as well. :heart:

4) Prolife rally? Why yes ... many times, including traveling from various states to Washington, DC for the annual March for Life. In 2010, I brought my camera along with me ... below is one of the photos I took while I was there:

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5) Write my representative? Well, last year I wrote two letters and sent them to Texas on behalf of David Daleiden. He's the one who did the undercover videos showing Planned Parenthood's involvement in selling baby body parts.

6) Called the White House? Well, I've called my Congressman in the past. Not the President, yet ... but you know, that's a good idea. Call President Trump. Vice President Pence would be good to call, too. Thank you. :D

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Question: Should I do even more?
Answer: Yes.

I can respect all that.You don't just talk the talk,you walk it.
My brother and sister in law are very prolife ( or she was before she passed away) and they did so much for some of the poorer kids in the neighborhood.Took them out to eat,shopping,etc..While I didn't share the same relgious beliefs,I totally respected the ones they held, becuse they lived them.They beleived in attending the local church,becuse that's the right thing,to worship with your neighbor's.It didn't matter to them at all that they were the only white people in the church.They became active members of the congregation.


What an awesome story, Misslizard ... we need more people in the world like your brother and sister in law! :)
(Am sorry to hear of her passing.) :(



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01 Mar 2017, 6:16 pm

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President Trump is getting an "A" from both sides.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.dailymai ... gress.html


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo. ... 09297.html


I love you President Trump!


Dittos, nurseangela! :)

And here's a YouTube video I think you'll enjoy. :D
Maybe not as serious, but I like it anyways ... 8)



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01 Mar 2017, 9:57 pm

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There were many great Presidents who weren't "gifted orators."

One example: Harry Truman.

George Washington wasn't regarded as a "gifted orator" when he was President.

Trump is a guy whose appeal lies in the fact that he "talks from the hip."

Obama was a relatively gifted orator, but a very average President.

If Trump were a "gifted orator," I doubt that he would have been elected, frankly.


His uncouth manner definitely managed to work in his favor.