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12 Aug 2007, 6:57 pm

Sedaka wrote:
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YOU'RE the one playing the victim by claiming you're going to be bullied for the rest of your life. :lol:


People with AS will be. Bet on it. (That's what I meant.)


you're not even really DXed for AS or BPD like you like to claim everywhere you go (i just mean you've been saying you think you're so bpd lately in many threads ect... even going as far to say you have it... like you has AS)......

that speaks a lot to me for your standards on many things...

no wonder you think you've experience gayness too :roll:

or were you lying when you said you weren't really DXed :roll:


Ooo! And another right cross from Sedaka!

If I went to a practitioner, I would be DXed. There is simply no room for doubt that I am an Aspie. People can decide what they like about that; I don't care.

Kind of low of you to mention, BTW.


not really since it pertains to the topic of the thread

HUH? The topic of the thread is "Homosexuality", not AS. Forget which thread you're in again? ;)
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and isnt just blatant sexual dregrading and joking about my character for no real reason..... as that was the tactic you were using cause you had nothin else to say of any worth


Everyone, the above is a very good example of the inner benefits of Christianity. I sent Sedaka a lengthy, heartfelt apology for my going a bit overboard with things which -- let's face it -- she had already disclosed quite casually on WP, meaning things which were fair game to talk about. But, for the great offense she took, which seemed/seems genuine enough to me, I let her know that I had no intent in offending her on a personal level. My first instinct was to quibble over my rights to banter, which I could well have done, but in such instances where another person has taken severe offense, it's more prudent and loving to give them the benefit of any doubt. So I apologized.

Now, if she were a Christian, she would have forgiven me, just as I hold her no malice for the many personal low blows she has dealt me publicly, indeed continuing on into the present. So, that's one benefit right there to my religion, is that you never have to let things other people do eat you up inside. We believe we've been forgiven a much greater debt by God, so we're commanded not to quibble over the smaller stuff that people do to us. "A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger" (Prov 15:1) is one of those very clear verses anyone can understand without deep study, and was written by King Solomon, a wise man of peace. It generally works, but not always. It allows the other person to let go of malice if they want to. They're free to hold onto it, however.

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everything vindictive i say about you i mean.... whereas again... you put no thought into all your jests.... which is why it bothered me in the first place

I'll check again... but I don't think you're inside my brain. :? Whence comes this special knowledge?
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you have no regard for so many things....

i chose not to show you my regard

that's the diff.


I'm not impressed. :? I'm still a man of peace, with a clear concience after apologizing, and you're left holding the grudge.


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12 Aug 2007, 7:04 pm

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HUH? The topic of the thread is "Homosexuality", not AS. Forget which thread you're in again? ;)

well, this thread wasn't initially asking about Bible lectures either, was it?

The very point of this thread was about Kilroy feeling confused, and you came with your things, which are everything but supportive.


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12 Aug 2007, 7:09 pm

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HUH? The topic of the thread is "Homosexuality", not AS. Forget which thread you're in again? ;)

well, this thread wasn't initially asking about Bible lectures either, was it?

The difference is I never claimed it was.
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The very point of this thread was about Kilroy feeling confused, and you came with your things, which are anything but supportive.


I'm not a bra. I'm here mainly to listen and give my opinion, not to support whatever needs it.


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12 Aug 2007, 7:54 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
YOU'RE the one playing the victim by claiming you're going to be bullied for the rest of your life. :lol:


People with AS will be. Bet on it. (That's what I meant.)


you're not even really DXed for AS or BPD like you like to claim everywhere you go (i just mean you've been saying you think you're so bpd lately in many threads ect... even going as far to say you have it... like you has AS)......

that speaks a lot to me for your standards on many things...

no wonder you think you've experience gayness too :roll:

or were you lying when you said you weren't really DXed :roll:


Ooo! And another right cross from Sedaka!

If I went to a practitioner, I would be DXed. There is simply no room for doubt that I am an Aspie. People can decide what they like about that; I don't care.

Kind of low of you to mention, BTW.


not really since it pertains to the topic of the thread

HUH? The topic of the thread is "Homosexuality", not AS. Forget which thread you're in again? ;)
Sedaka wrote:

and isnt just blatant sexual dregrading and joking about my character for no real reason..... as that was the tactic you were using cause you had nothin else to say of any worth


Everyone, the above is a very good example of the inner benefits of Christianity. I sent Sedaka a lengthy, heartfelt apology for my going a bit overboard with things which -- let's face it -- she had already disclosed quite casually on WP, meaning things which were fair game to talk about. But, for the great offense she took, which seemed/seems genuine enough to me, I let her know that I had no intent in offending her on a personal level. My first instinct was to quibble over my rights to banter, which I could well have done, but in such instances where another person has taken severe offense, it's more prudent and loving to give them the benefit of any doubt. So I apologized.

Now, if she were a Christian, she would have forgiven me, just as I hold her no malice for the many personal low blows she has dealt me publicly, indeed continuing on into the present. So, that's one benefit right there to my religion, is that you never have to let things other people do eat you up inside. We believe we've been forgiven a much greater debt by God, so we're commanded not to quibble over the smaller stuff that people do to us. "A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger" (Prov 15:1) is one of those very clear verses anyone can understand without deep study, and was written by King Solomon, a wise man of peace. It generally works, but not always. It allows the other person to let go of malice if they want to. They're free to hold onto it, however.

Sedaka wrote:
everything vindictive i say about you i mean.... whereas again... you put no thought into all your jests.... which is why it bothered me in the first place

I'll check again... but I don't think you're inside my brain. :? Whence comes this special knowledge?
Sedaka wrote:
you have no regard for so many things....

i chose not to show you my regard

that's the diff.


I'm not impressed. :? I'm still a man of peace, with a clear concience after apologizing, and you're left holding the grudge.


i said what i said about you claiming your AS status because it's relevant to how you claim to have experienced gay attraction in earnest... cause you have said several times that it's easily ignored... my point is that you think you experience a lot of state of beings.......

i dont care what you wanna say about your apology... i was gonna (and still am going to) respond to your pm... i just havent had time (so you're assuming that chalks up to my non-christian qualities :roll: ...you know nothing of my forgiveness... cause i do ralize you're like a child, you just dont have the maturity to understand the implications of your actions... im sure you know WHY YOU do them... but not much beyond that). but like i said, you represent yourself entirely different in your PMs vs here on the forums... so w/e

and you don't put a lot of initial thought into what you said or else you wouldnt have erased your intial response and blamed it on your blackberry... or said any multitude of the lame smartass cheap shots that you do ALL THE TIME.........

and THAT is why i don't let it eat me up inside.... cause i know you have no real comprehension on the things you say or do...

cause you're just so sure whatever you do is SO christlike...



and FYI - it's not the content of the posts i make on WP that i was livid over you divulging... as i did clearly state it on WP (and noted in my post)... im fine sharing my experiences with people here

it's the fact that you'd make any sort of off-handed remark about me possibly being sexually interested in you (and integrating those other factoids from my posts to give it a flare of validity and closeness) and you being in a position of power to reject me in order to make me appear less of a person and doing so in a public manner in front of our peers (as you put it in PM)... cause you were making "guy jokes" with hadron about me doing sexual favors for you... or w/e OFF TOPIC thing you felt gave you some sort of potence in this thread.


parade your christian pride around all you like....


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12 Aug 2007, 9:11 pm

Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
YOU'RE the one playing the victim by claiming you're going to be bullied for the rest of your life. :lol:


People with AS will be. Bet on it. (That's what I meant.)


you're not even really DXed for AS or BPD like you like to claim everywhere you go (i just mean you've been saying you think you're so bpd lately in many threads ect... even going as far to say you have it... like you has AS)......

that speaks a lot to me for your standards on many things...

no wonder you think you've experience gayness too :roll:

or were you lying when you said you weren't really DXed :roll:


Ooo! And another right cross from Sedaka!

If I went to a practitioner, I would be DXed. There is simply no room for doubt that I am an Aspie. People can decide what they like about that; I don't care.

Kind of low of you to mention, BTW.


not really since it pertains to the topic of the thread

HUH? The topic of the thread is "Homosexuality", not AS. Forget which thread you're in again? ;)
Sedaka wrote:

and isnt just blatant sexual dregrading and joking about my character for no real reason..... as that was the tactic you were using cause you had nothin else to say of any worth


Everyone, the above is a very good example of the inner benefits of Christianity. I sent Sedaka a lengthy, heartfelt apology for my going a bit overboard with things which -- let's face it -- she had already disclosed quite casually on WP, meaning things which were fair game to talk about. But, for the great offense she took, which seemed/seems genuine enough to me, I let her know that I had no intent in offending her on a personal level. My first instinct was to quibble over my rights to banter, which I could well have done, but in such instances where another person has taken severe offense, it's more prudent and loving to give them the benefit of any doubt. So I apologized.

Now, if she were a Christian, she would have forgiven me, just as I hold her no malice for the many personal low blows she has dealt me publicly, indeed continuing on into the present. So, that's one benefit right there to my religion, is that you never have to let things other people do eat you up inside. We believe we've been forgiven a much greater debt by God, so we're commanded not to quibble over the smaller stuff that people do to us. "A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger" (Prov 15:1) is one of those very clear verses anyone can understand without deep study, and was written by King Solomon, a wise man of peace. It generally works, but not always. It allows the other person to let go of malice if they want to. They're free to hold onto it, however.

Sedaka wrote:
everything vindictive i say about you i mean.... whereas again... you put no thought into all your jests.... which is why it bothered me in the first place

I'll check again... but I don't think you're inside my brain. :? Whence comes this special knowledge?
Sedaka wrote:
you have no regard for so many things....

i chose not to show you my regard

that's the diff.


I'm not impressed. :? I'm still a man of peace, with a clear concience after apologizing, and you're left holding the grudge.


i said what i said about you claiming your AS status because it's relevant to how you claim to have experienced gay attraction in earnest... cause you have said several times that it's easily ignored... my point is that you think you experience a lot of state of beings.......

i dont care what you wanna say about your apology... i was gonna (and still am going to) respond to your pm... i just havent had time (so you're assuming that chalks up to my non-christian qualities :roll: ...you know nothing of my forgiveness... cause i do ralize you're like a child, you just dont have the maturity to understand the implications of your actions... im sure you know WHY YOU do them... but not much beyond that). but like i said, you represent yourself entirely different in your PMs vs here on the forums... so w/e



Of course I do. What Aspie walks into a room full of people, and is capable of acting like he would when alone with a friend? Maybe non-self-conscious ones, but I'm very self-conscious myself. When I'm in an open forum, my communication style becomes an average of those of the main members in the thread. But when I write to someONE, I can attuenuate myself to them.

And as for me experiencing different states of being, you've revealed something about me no one else has, and that is my uber-flexible identity. I don't know how, but I can shift in and out of various personalities. And all of them are the real me:

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Who is the real Ragtime :?:


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"Who is the real Ragtime :?: "

All of them!

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and you don't put a lot of initial thought into what you said or else you wouldnt have erased your intial response and blamed it on your blackberry...

Fine, don't believe me. It will be ~ your 200th error about me so far. :roll: Tell us about how awesome your brain is again. Better yet, f***ing impress me.
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or said any multitude of the lame smartass cheap shots that you do ALL THE TIME.........

"Mr. Kettle? There's a Miss 'Pot' here to see you -- and she's smoking some rolled-up Bible pages..."
"Show her out."
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and THAT is why i don't let it eat me up inside.... cause i know you have no real comprehension on the things you say or do...

Ya, you've really got it out of your system. Did you know that personal letters, like this, can be PMed directly to people? It's the coolest thing -- you don't have to waste everyone's time and thread space with it!
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cause you're just so sure whatever you do is SO christlike...

Never said any such thing. I have a meager ATTEMPT to be Christlike, and that often falters.

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and FYI - it's not the content of the posts i make on WP that i was livid over you divulging... as i did clearly state it on WP (and noted in my post)... im fine sharing my experiences with people here

it's the fact that you'd make any sort of off-handed remark about me possibly being sexually interested in you (and integrating those other factoids from my posts to give it a flare of validity and closeness)

Um, I don't think anyone remotely thought we had somethin' goin' on. Maybe subconsciously part of me wishes there were, but that's my own damn problem, and I suppress it as best I can.
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and you being in a position of power to reject me in order to make me appear less of a person and doing so in a public manner in front of our peers

Now, THAT was wrong of me. There's no way I could casually walk away from you, like I made it seem. I have some male ego issues, like just about every man. And if I did pass you up, that really was meant to reflect on me, not you, but in such scenarios it inevitably comes out as reflecting on both people. As any male with eyes knows, you're hawt, and there's no way I should make a passing reference which seems to devalue that. I REALLY DID mean it to reflect on MY occasional stoicism, not on you.
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cause you were making "guy jokes" with hadron about me doing sexual favors for you... or w/e OFF TOPIC thing you felt gave you some sort of potence in this thread.

It was a mild reference -- no sexual activity was spoken of. An "on her knees" entendre, which could easily only mean the classic position of beg. I leave things open to other meanings sometimes; shame on me.
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parade your christian pride around all you like....

I STILL don't know where you get this from -- or why you can't see your own self-imagined 10-ft diameter cranium, as you congratulate your brain while insulting mine in post after post.
Genius need not stoop to such. Its demonstration is its own commercial.


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12 Aug 2007, 9:37 pm

you still take the wrong accents and play down the things i find most offensive

i dont care anymore.

i accept your apology for what it's worth... coming from you

edit: and quit crying about me keeping this here on the forums.... you're the one who decided to make lude jokes about me here on the forums... reap what you sow


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12 Aug 2007, 10:25 pm

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you still take the wrong accents and play down the things i find most offensive

i dont care anymore.

i accept your apology for what it's worth... coming from you

edit: and quit crying about me keeping this here on the forums.... you're the one who decided to make lude jokes about me here on the forums... reap what you sow


We have Theory of Mind issues, you and I. To be honest, I don't understand where you're coming from half the time, even though we each know what we're trying to communicate.


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12 Aug 2007, 10:37 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
you still take the wrong accents and play down the things i find most offensive

i dont care anymore.

i accept your apology for what it's worth... coming from you

edit: and quit crying about me keeping this here on the forums.... you're the one who decided to make lude jokes about me here on the forums... reap what you sow


We have Theory of Mind issues, you and I. To be honest, I don't understand where you're coming from half the time, even though we each know what we're trying to communicate.


im not even gonna touch this one.....................

you're beyond reach


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12 Aug 2007, 10:42 pm

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Sedaka wrote:
you still take the wrong accents and play down the things i find most offensive

i dont care anymore.

i accept your apology for what it's worth... coming from you

edit: and quit crying about me keeping this here on the forums.... you're the one who decided to make lude jokes about me here on the forums... reap what you sow


We have Theory of Mind issues, you and I. To be honest, I don't understand where you're coming from half the time, even though we each know what we're trying to communicate.


im not even gonna touch this one.....................

you're beyond reach


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12 Aug 2007, 11:01 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
you still take the wrong accents and play down the things i find most offensive

i dont care anymore.

i accept your apology for what it's worth... coming from you

edit: and quit crying about me keeping this here on the forums.... you're the one who decided to make lude jokes about me here on the forums... reap what you sow


We have Theory of Mind issues, you and I. To be honest, I don't understand where you're coming from half the time, even though we each know what we're trying to communicate.


im not even gonna touch this one.....................

you're beyond reach


8)


quite sad actually... there's so many things you'll never understand


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12 Aug 2007, 11:12 pm

Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
you still take the wrong accents and play down the things i find most offensive

i dont care anymore.

i accept your apology for what it's worth... coming from you

edit: and quit crying about me keeping this here on the forums.... you're the one who decided to make lude jokes about me here on the forums... reap what you sow


We have Theory of Mind issues, you and I. To be honest, I don't understand where you're coming from half the time, even though we each know what we're trying to communicate.


im not even gonna touch this one.....................

you're beyond reach


8)


quite sad actually... there's so many things you'll never understand


That's what Heaven is for.


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That's what Heaven is for.


super


actually, i think your heaven will do you quite nicely


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quite sad actually... there's so many things you'll never understand


That's what Heaven is for.


Hey Ragtime, could you reconnoiter Heaven for us and tell us what it's like??

/snicker



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quite sad actually... there's so many things you'll never understand


That's what Heaven is for.


Hey Ragtime, could you reconnoiter Heaven for us and tell us what it's like??

/snicker


You're not going? "Hell no", right?


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quite sad actually... there's so many things you'll never understand


That's what Heaven is for.


Hey Ragtime, could you reconnoiter Heaven for us and tell us what it's like??

/snicker


You're not going? "Hell no", right? K, remember to pack your flameproof undies, etc.


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