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20 Jul 2010, 9:12 pm

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Why? Insanity seems to translate to creativity which seems to translate to creation.

Insanity and creativity aren't the same thing though at all by a long stretch though. I mean, if we are talking about a person with paranoia, OCD, and dogmatism, then we don't necessarily see creativity at all and certainly no real creation, but we quite probably have someone insane. Even further, creativity and creation do not mean perfection.

Now, we can argue that the notion of perfection becomes incoherent as it could be that there is no absolutely superior entity that could exist. (Think rock > scissors > paper > rock) However, it still seems rather basic that insanity translates into just being insane.



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20 Jul 2010, 9:15 pm

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Why? Insanity seems to translate to creativity which seems to translate to creation.

Insanity and creativity aren't the same thing though at all by a long stretch though. I mean, if we are talking about a person with paranoia, OCD, and dogmatism, then we don't necessarily see creativity at all and certainly no real creation, but we quite probably have someone insane. Even further, creativity and creation do not mean perfection.

Now, we can argue that the notion of perfection becomes incoherent as it could be that there is no absolutely superior entity that could exist. (Think rock > scissors > paper > rock) However, it still seems rather basic that insanity translates into just being insane.



Who better to write a thriller than a paranoid OCD?


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20 Jul 2010, 9:17 pm

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He is capable of forgiving because the punishment for our sins had to be put on someone. And Jesus is the perfect sacrifice. All the punishment for human's sins were put on Jesus. Now, there is a debate on whether it is all of humanity's sins or only those who will eventually believe in him.

That's the whole point though. It isn't really forgiveness if somebody still has to be punished. It is just insane.

Its supposed to be insane.

Well, great, but I kind of see insanity as being in opposition to perfection.


Why? Insanity seems to translate to creativity which seems to translate to creation.


Insanity is much misunderstood. When people have no imagination they regard major improvements on tradition as inconceivable and therefore insane. Insanity is a brain malfunction. Creation is a superior brain function.



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20 Jul 2010, 9:33 pm

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Who better to write a thriller than a paranoid OCD?

Only if they have writing ability, something not granted by their flaws.



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20 Jul 2010, 9:40 pm

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Not really. The fact that people DO believe in God means that God can be believed.

The fact that atheists do NOT believe in God means that God can be disbelieved.

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The fact that people DID believe Jesus was who He said He was was believable enough for more than a few people to write down an account of the facts they witnessed.

There are people who believe in many things, so it doesn't seem to be much of a justification for it, other than beliefs are beliefs. And the issue is that people believe that other people did believe Jesus.

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SOMEONE believed in God, and apparently they found the Gospel relevant enough to teach it to others as Christ commanded them to do.

YOU may not think it's believable, and that IS your burden to bear.

It may be burden to you, because you have the certainty of what he considers improbable.

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Seriously, a life that doesn't demand strict ceremonial Law that a PERSON/PEOPLE say you must follow in order to reach God is much easier than trying to conform to the impossible. If that wasn't what God desired, He wouldn't even have allowed Jesus any kind of earthly life or ministry.

But if God doesn't exist then you will be trying to conform to the impossible.

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Besides, if you actually go back and really study the Pentateuch, there ARE no strict formalized "rules" for worship. Sure, there were step-by-step procedures for bringing a sacrifice to the inner sanctum. But the spirit of the Law is "to love God" with your entire being (paraphrase, of course) and to "love your neighbor as yourself."

The 10 commandments were very strict, few sins such as adultery and men sleeping with other men deserved the death penalty.

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Geocentrism, for example. It's been PROVEN false, and I don't see anyone willing to put their life on the line to defend it.

Creationism is, as proven to be false as geocentrism, and there seem to be some who are willing to put their life on the line to defend it.
And geocentrism makes as much sense as creationism.


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20 Jul 2010, 10:45 pm

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Human beings are ALWAYS acting seemingly irrationally for those they feel attachment to. It is not unheard of that people will willingly face certain death for those they love. It defies any pure logic or reason. It breaks all the "rules."


Humans murder the ones they love far more often than they die for them... Which also defies logic and reason, and fits quite well with the idea of humans being created in the image of the god of the bible (or vice versa).



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20 Jul 2010, 10:59 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
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Who better to write a thriller than a paranoid OCD?

Only if they have writing ability, something not granted by their flaws.


You hire another writer to clean it up/ghostwrite it.


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20 Jul 2010, 11:04 pm

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You hire another writer to clean it up/ghostwrite it.

They still have to have a good ability to come up with a story and write it down.



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20 Jul 2010, 11:05 pm

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You hire another writer to clean it up/ghostwrite it.

They still have to have a good ability to come up with a story and write it down.


paranoid OCD....they're gonna have a story.


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20 Jul 2010, 11:19 pm

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paranoid OCD....they're gonna have a story.

Conveying stuff in a good manner is a bit more difficult than having a strange mind on the matter. Certainly if they are paranoid, then why should we expect them to write down their information?