Bethie
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12 Apr 2011, 9:07 am
12 Apr 2011, 9:18 am
You have Robert Nozick to thank for that, he was one of the american philosophers who was against Rawls and his principle of equal chances (ow, memory is being more or less correct, feel free to correct me <.<). I reckon he was the one who said that the state shouldn't have to tell you what you can do with your own body, such as prostitution. In the same line of thought*, he'd say that the state can't force you to jeopardize your life if someone is drowning, for example. among other examples, that the state couldn't force you to wear a helmet when you're riding a bicycle or a motorcycle. 
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12 Apr 2011, 9:23 am
How do you justify the arrogance of thinking that your own personal preferences should dictate policy for the entire country? I do not agree with our military spending or our presence in I don't even know how many countries (I think it's around 150 countries), but I don't recall having an opt-out box on my tax return.
It really serves to show how deeply-ingrained is the concept of private property,
when such a "right" is literally more important than someone else's life.
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12 Apr 2011, 9:30 am
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12 Apr 2011, 9:32 am
on the other hand I like the idea of punishment for a stupid wacko who let's someone cum in her vagina without contraception
Wow. That's interesting...state-mandated pregnancy and childbirth as punishment for forgetting my pill.
12 Apr 2011, 9:37 am
on the other hand I like the idea of punishment for a stupid wacko who let's someone cum in her vagina without contraception
Wow. That's interesting...state-mandated pregnancy and childbirth as punishment for forgetting my pill.
I have to say I never understood the whole "You do the crime, you do the time" consequence for pregnancy. It doesn't seem to really consider the "child" at all.
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12 Apr 2011, 9:42 am
on the other hand I like the idea of punishment for a stupid wacko who let's someone cum in her vagina without contraception
Wow. That's interesting...state-mandated pregnancy and childbirth as punishment for forgetting my pill.
I have to say I never understood the whole "You do the crime, you do the time" consequence for pregnancy. It doesn't seem to really consider the "child" at all.
It's simply the most blatant way to express the "reason" to oppose abortion rights:
we just cannot have a society where women can have consequence-free sex.
12 Apr 2011, 9:44 am
on the other hand I like the idea of punishment for a stupid wacko who let's someone cum in her vagina without contraception
Wow. That's interesting...state-mandated pregnancy and childbirth as punishment for forgetting my pill.
I have to say I never understood the whole "You do the crime, you do the time" consequence for pregnancy. It doesn't seem to really consider the "child" at all.
It's simply the most blatant way to express the "reason" to oppose abortion rights:
we just cannot have a society where women can have consequence-free sex.
I think both parents should be held responsible if it is not a case of rape. Both parents are responsible for the child's wellbeing, not just the mother and not just the father.
12 Apr 2011, 9:46 am
12 Apr 2011, 9:46 am
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12 Apr 2011, 9:50 am
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12 Apr 2011, 9:51 am
yeah....that's absurd.
12 Apr 2011, 10:05 am
In Communist Romania, the law was you had to have 4 children before you could even get contraceptives, and abortions were not allowed. It led to children being put in decrepit conditions in the very infamous orphanages, so bad they were thought to have autism when they were adopted and came to the UK. They did not. It was unfathomable to me that a child would be born knowing that they would just be sent there because their parents could not take care of them.
It was not punishment for forgetting contraceptives, but they were still state-mandated pregnancies to GET contraceptives. Your statement reminded me of that. So it could be worse. I don't agree with that view at all though.
12 Apr 2011, 10:16 am
12 Apr 2011, 10:18 am
12 Apr 2011, 10:20 am
people on welfare ≠ person
fixed for you
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