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21 Apr 2012, 5:02 pm

Festivus for the rest of us!



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21 Apr 2012, 5:04 pm

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Hmm I have never heard that befor I thought it was all Charles Darwins theory never knew some one else came up with the same theory.....so Darwin and Alfred both deserve credit for a theory that has yet to be disprooven interesting.


Both Darwin's abstract and Wallace's papers were read in front of the scientific society of naturalists. Neither was present when the abstracts were read. The papers did not make all that much of a splash, but Darwin''s book "Origin of Species" sold out very quickly on the first printing and several other printing sold out rapidly.

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Interesting I do enjoy the book "Origion of Species" never knew neither was present when the abstracts were read. Why didn't the papers make that much of a splash?



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21 Apr 2012, 7:14 pm

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I'm not saying there aren't, but it's not enough.

I'm going to take your advice and look it up really quick.

First Church
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Hmm, I just might have to get ordained. Many atheists are unaware of what atheism really is, and I'd like to spread the message in our special gathering place via skype.

Now if only I could get some cash to get me motivated to start, any givers? All donor will receive a stamped envelop for your good deed. S&H will apply in all cases.

After my first $5,000, I will consider a face to face meeting in front of my local public library, in front of the security cameras.


I am keeping this post bookmarked so when a Christian complains about their views being attacked by atheists randomly on PPR threads they made, I can show them this (note what the OP is) and say it goes both ways and they have no argument to get special treatment. Thanks!

I appreciate you making me look good, it is rather hard to do, but you are doing a good job at it. Keep it up!

Now you might have some response to this, and my response to your obvious reply is the subliminal message in this video:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHy7DGLTt8g&feature=relmfu[/youtube]


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22 Apr 2012, 12:48 pm

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I am keeping this post bookmarked so when a Christian complains about their views being attacked by atheists randomly on PPR threads they made, I can show them this (note what the OP is) and say it goes both ways and they have no argument to get special treatment. Thanks!

I appreciate you making me look good, it is rather hard to do, but you are doing a good job at it. Keep it up!


Well, thanks for the ego boost, I guess. So my single post equals that of every posts that makes funny of theism? Like my post was the great equalizer in the slap fight between atheists and theists. Hmm...

I don't know what the OP is, you're going to have to enlighten me about that.

How is my post about making you look good?

Anyways, I'm not trying to attack anyone, I'm just illustrating my point that atheism won't be able to agree on anything as far as organizing something like a holiday, and much less, a push for power in the government, at least openly. We'll have to wait for that.

I think I've done a pretty good job.


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22 Apr 2012, 1:02 pm

Joker wrote:
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Hmm I have never heard that befor I thought it was all Charles Darwins theory never knew some one else came up with the same theory.....so Darwin and Alfred both deserve credit for a theory that has yet to be disprooven interesting.


Both Darwin's abstract and Wallace's papers were read in front of the scientific society of naturalists. Neither was present when the abstracts were read. The papers did not make all that much of a splash, but Darwin''s book "Origin of Species" sold out very quickly on the first printing and several other printing sold out rapidly.

ruveyn


Interesting I do enjoy the book "Origion of Species" never knew neither was present when the abstracts were read. Why didn't the papers make that much of a splash?


I was less under the impression that the papers 'didn't make a splash,' but other theories of change over time (the most famous, but not only, being Lamarck). The reason that Darwin is remembered for the theory rather than Wallace, and the reason that it's 'Origin' that is linked to the theory, is that, at the time Wallace contacted Darwin, Darwin had spent decades refining and collecting evidence for the theory of evolution. 'On the Origin of Species' put together such an iron-clad argument, with so many concrete examples, that it provided the 'extraordinary evidence' that Sagan more recently said must accompany extraordinary claims.



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22 Apr 2012, 3:04 pm

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt196366.html


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22 Apr 2012, 3:13 pm

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ruveyn wrote:
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Hmm I have never heard that befor I thought it was all Charles Darwins theory never knew some one else came up with the same theory.....so Darwin and Alfred both deserve credit for a theory that has yet to be disprooven interesting.


Both Darwin's abstract and Wallace's papers were read in front of the scientific society of naturalists. Neither was present when the abstracts were read. The papers did not make all that much of a splash, but Darwin''s book "Origin of Species" sold out very quickly on the first printing and several other printing sold out rapidly.

ruveyn


Interesting I do enjoy the book "Origion of Species" never knew neither was present when the abstracts were read. Why didn't the papers make that much of a splash?


I was less under the impression that the papers 'didn't make a splash,' but other theories of change over time (the most famous, but not only, being Lamarck). The reason that Darwin is remembered for the theory rather than Wallace, and the reason that it's 'Origin' that is linked to the theory, is that, at the time Wallace contacted Darwin, Darwin had spent decades refining and collecting evidence for the theory of evolution. 'On the Origin of Species' put together such an iron-clad argument, with so many concrete examples, that it provided the 'extraordinary evidence' that Sagan more recently said must accompany extraordinary claims.


Interesting just when I thought I knew things about Darwin I get taken by surprise. I never cared for Sagan though.



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22 Apr 2012, 3:21 pm

April 1st.


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22 Apr 2012, 3:24 pm

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Another good holiday so tp speak would be clebebrating the history of science.
Yes! Especially the dates of scientific advances that are important to you.


Two cheers for Einstein's Birthday. No cheers for Carl Sagan's birthday.

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You don't like Carl Sagan?



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22 Apr 2012, 3:26 pm

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Another good holiday so tp speak would be clebebrating the history of science.
Yes! Especially the dates of scientific advances that are important to you.


Two cheers for Einstein's Birthday. No cheers for Carl Sagan's birthday.

ruveyn
You don't like Carl Sagan?


I know of alot of agnostics that do not like Carl Sagan.



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22 Apr 2012, 3:31 pm

What about Vladimir Posner? Seems like a good person to based it on. We can do it on his birthday.


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22 Apr 2012, 3:50 pm

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What about Vladimir Posner? Seems like a good person to based it on. We can do it on his birthday.


Not sure really how about a Charles Darwin day.



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22 Apr 2012, 3:57 pm

It doesn't even have to be about the same person each year, and it doesn't have to celebrate the day of their birth.

We could do the birth of Vladimir Posner one year, and the death of John G. Jackson another year.

It's educating for the public.


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25 Apr 2012, 11:15 pm

3/14 Pi Day!