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08 Jul 2016, 3:14 am

Here, more examples of idiotic SJWs in action:


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08 Jul 2016, 4:21 am

Usually when I hear someone use the slur SJW I assume they are someone who has been accused of racism or misognyny (perhaps fairly perhaps unfairly).

All I really see here is a bunch of people on opposite ends of the spectrum with very different opinions who like to spar with each other. I don't think that SJW's generally self-identify as such so I think it's basically just a slur word used against people you disagree with vehemently.

Well, we give Nazis their freedom of speech. We might as well grant that same freedom of speech to "SJW's."

I watched that video a couple of of the guy ranting about SJW's. Yes, I actually sat and watched over half of it. My conclusion was he was a dickhead. It's just an opinion. Lol.



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08 Jul 2016, 7:56 am

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Usually when I hear someone use the slur SJW I assume they are someone who has been accused of racism or misognyny (perhaps fairly perhaps unfairly).

All I really see here is a bunch of people on opposite ends of the spectrum with very different opinions who like to spar with each other. I don't think that SJW's generally self-identify as such so I think it's basically just a slur word used against people you disagree with vehemently.

Well, we give Nazis their freedom of speech. We might as well grant that same freedom of speech to "SJW's."

I watched that video a couple of of the guy ranting about SJW's. Yes, I actually sat and watched over half of it. My conclusion was he was a dickhead. It's just an opinion. Lol.

Part of it is for the entertainment value, of course, but if you watched a little further you would see him talk about the school that is literally using segregation and giving students more or less privilege based entirely on the color of their skin and nothing more. If that's not racism I don't know what is.

You can still think he's a dickhead I guess, but it's kind of meaningless when you don't have a good reason for thinking so. Do you even disagree with anything said in the video?


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09 Jul 2016, 5:46 am

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I agree. That's why I tried to explain what I meant by SJW. I'm talking about extremes, though I think they are a lot more common than some of you might think. They're not just whiny girls on Tumblr. They actually teach their ideologies and unsupported claims at universities as if they were fact, and now we are seeing things like what happened at Mizzou.


Like how women are just automatically entitled to sex, and men aren't, or how men can't get raped or stalked because men always want sex, or that if your male friend asks you out on a date, it means that he is going to rape you if you say no, and you should go on your little tumblr blogs to make him look like a rapist, and if he ever finds your tumblr blog, justify it, by saying that he was only mad because you denied him sex, and make posts about how good guys are bad, because they're all being nice just to trick you into getting raped, and how bad boys are good, because they are "honest" about being rapists, and because bad boys rape you with "confidence" whereas good guys have consensual sex with you out of "desperation" and yadda, yadda, yadda.

Edit: ...and capitalism is wrong because Spock is logical, and logic is evil.


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Dammit if I only I had known i was entitled to sex. Should have used that card more often (jk) :roll:

Apologies if this sound presumptuous but that you experienced this? It sounds very specific.

People don't just assume someone wants to rape them. As a woman you do need to be more careful as you are a group at higher risk of being targeted (this means shocker yes men get targeted to, and extra shocker yes some of us feminists know this and think it's also wrong)



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09 Jul 2016, 5:59 am

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Has anyone actually argued that SJWs are worse than the other groups who keep being brought up?

If no one is arguing that SJWs are worse than group X, why would anyone need to quantify the harm they cause, other than to deliberately waste their time?

If it's wrong to criticize SJWs while worse problems are out there, why does feminism get a pass for picking nits while virtually ignoring the plight of women in the middle east and Africa?

Does anyone actually think that being a jerk for a cause somehow negates the fact that you're being a jerk?

Does anyone thing that being a jerk is persuasive?

Why does this one thread have so many bad arguments in it?


Hi I've never met someone who is a telepathy before :) I'm so excited can you please tell me when my boyfriend will propose?

Maybe just maybe feminists dont ignore that but at the same time it's hard to change a whole culture which is so far away.

Look at how far India has come rapes are actually seen as bad now. Those feminists in that country who are fighting for rape to have consequences are hero's in my opinion.

They are feminists too, people seem to forget this. If their fighting for better jail terms aren't noble I don't know what is.

I cannot help there, I have nor the money nor the ability. But I can help he little things I can help with.

Also what is wrong with wanting to play as a woman in games? I want to live through the character to :( :(



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10 Jul 2016, 12:28 am

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For those unfamiliar with /pol/, it's the "politically incorrect" board on 4chan, essentially a neoconservative hivemind. As you can see here, there isn't really much of a difference between them and the SJW movement. They may be on opposing ends of the political spectrum, but they both represent repressive ideals.


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I dislike you some what less now lol

j/k That might have been harsh but its got more to do with isolation then anything aimed at you.



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10 Jul 2016, 3:40 am

heavenlyabyss wrote:
Usually when I hear someone use the slur SJW I assume they are someone who has been accused of racism or misognyny (perhaps fairly perhaps unfairly).


I don't find that to be the case, it's mostly just used by people who've gotten exasperated at the ever more petty grievances some of today's activists make into life or death issues. Did you see the students who needed crisis counseling because someone wrote "Trump 2016" in chalk on campus? The woman physically attacking the white man with dreadlocks because his hairstyle was "cultural appropriation"? The Yale professors driven from campus for daring to ask students to lighten up about Halloween? You don't need to be personally involved to be annoyed by this behavior, and it's hardly rare or isolated, those of us on the coasts likely need to look no further than our own Facebook walls to find it.


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10 Jul 2016, 6:26 am

dcj123 wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
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For those unfamiliar with /pol/, it's the "politically incorrect" board on 4chan, essentially a neoconservative hivemind. As you can see here, there isn't really much of a difference between them and the SJW movement. They may be on opposing ends of the political spectrum, but they both represent repressive ideals.


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I dislike you some what less now lol

j/k That might have been harsh but its got more to do with isolation then anything aimed at you.

It's fine. :P We may disagree on certain things, but I think you're pretty cool.


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11 Jul 2016, 9:45 am

Well FRBLDragon made just as bad an impression as Aeandi.



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12 Jul 2016, 10:43 am

Mansplaining is when a woman expresses a thought or feeling about a topic, and a man then explains the topic to her as if she didn't already understand it. Basically, it's a man condescending to a woman by assuming her views come from a place of ignorance or stupidity.

Gas-lighting is when a person (man or woman) is manipulative or cruel, and denies it by claiming the other person is crazy. They may claim they didn't say things they said, didn't do things they did, or that the other person is overreacting or overemotional. It's a tactic frequently employed by emotional abusers, and since autistic people are more likely experience abuse I don't think it's a term any of us should dismiss as nonsense.

Triggering is also a real thing, though probably hard for someone who's never experienced PTSD to understand. Stories, videos, etc. that bring up memories of a traumatic event can trigger a flashback. A flashback means that the person feels like they are re-experiencing the event. I've had flashbacks; they are not made-up b.s. but an actual psychological phenomenon, similar to a panic attack.



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12 Jul 2016, 12:55 pm

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Mansplaining is when a woman expresses a thought or feeling about a topic, and a man then explains the topic to her as if she didn't already understand it. Basically, it's a man condescending to a woman by assuming her views come from a place of ignorance or stupidity.

Gas-lighting is when a person (man or woman) is manipulative or cruel, and denies it by claiming the other person is crazy. They may claim they didn't say things they said, didn't do things they did, or that the other person is overreacting or overemotional. It's a tactic frequently employed by emotional abusers, and since autistic people are more likely experience abuse I don't think it's a term any of us should dismiss as nonsense.

Triggering is also a real thing, though probably hard for someone who's never experienced PTSD to understand. Stories, videos, etc. that bring up memories of a traumatic event can trigger a flashback. A flashback means that the person feels like they are re-experiencing the event. I've had flashbacks; they are not made-up b.s. but an actual psychological phenomenon, similar to a panic attack.

I don't disagree with you, as I know these are all real things. Being fairly new terms however, I think their definitions are not well known among people, and they tend to be misused as a result. That's just my view on it, as I had no idea wtf "mansplaining" or "gaslighting" meant until recently. "Triggering" is pretty self-explanatory to me though, and I even remember as a kid I once used "trigger" as a synonym for "provoke", long before it became a popular term online. I dunno, it's just an interesting coincidence that sticks out for me.


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12 Jul 2016, 12:59 pm

Gas lighting is actually a very old term. It goes back to a play in the thirties in which a guy dimmed the lights in the house only to tell his wife that she's imagining things when she notices.



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12 Jul 2016, 5:08 pm

YippySkippy wrote:
Mansplaining is when a woman expresses a thought or feeling about a topic, and a man then explains the topic to her as if she didn't already understand it. Basically, it's a man condescending to a woman by assuming her views come from a place of ignorance or stupidity.

Gas-lighting is when a person (man or woman) is manipulative or cruel, and denies it by claiming the other person is crazy. They may claim they didn't say things they said, didn't do things they did, or that the other person is overreacting or overemotional. It's a tactic frequently employed by emotional abusers, and since autistic people are more likely experience abuse I don't think it's a term any of us should dismiss as nonsense.

Triggering is also a real thing, though probably hard for someone who's never experienced PTSD to understand. Stories, videos, etc. that bring up memories of a traumatic event can trigger a flashback. A flashback means that the person feels like they are re-experiencing the event. I've had flashbacks; they are not made-up b.s. but an actual psychological phenomenon, similar to a panic attack.

Mansplaining is a ridiculous idea. A female can be just as condescending to a male or another female, and people can be condescending for many reasons other than sexism. It's called being an as*hole; we don't need a special word for when a man does it to a woman, because that implies that it's always motivated by sexism, when it's not.

Triggering is a legitimate term, but it's used WAY too loosely by a lot of SJWs for anything that makes them a little bit upset. Most of the SJWs who say it were never diagnosed with PTSD, and by using the term incorrectly they are hurting people with real PTSD.


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12 Jul 2016, 7:59 pm

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Mansplaining is a ridiculous idea. A female can be just as condescending to a male or another female, and people can be condescending for many reasons other than sexism.


Yes, and that's not mansplaining.

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It's called being an as*hole; we don't need a special word for when a man does it to a woman, because that implies that it's always motivated by sexism, when it's not.


Mansplaining is motivated by the conscious or unconscious belief that women need men to explain things to them, and that if a woman disagrees with a man it must be that she is stupid and/or ignorant about a topic. Therefore, mansplaining IS inherently sexist.

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Triggering is a legitimate term, but it's used WAY too loosely by a lot of SJWs for anything that makes them a little bit upset. Most of the SJWs who say it were never diagnosed with PTSD, and by using the term incorrectly they are hurting people with real PTSD.


I've only seen the term used in regard to stories/videos that might trigger someone (trigger warnings). It's hard to imagine how trigger warnings could hurt people with PTSD, or anyone. It's just a heads-up, which everyone is free to heed or disregard as they wish.



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12 Jul 2016, 8:06 pm

A trigger warning is basically the same thing as the graphic content disclaimer.



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12 Jul 2016, 10:32 pm

It's not mansplaining. I would be saying the same thing to you regardless of your sex, because I disagree with what you're saying. How can you prove that the reason a man is being condescending is because he's sexist, without him saying so or making it explicitly obvious? He could just be condescending to this particular woman because he doesn't like her, or maybe he legitimately believes she doesn't understand and is just trying to clarify his idea, and unintentionally came across as rude.

But whatever the case may be, according to your logic, a man should never try to explain anything to a woman, regardless of the reason he is doing so, otherwise he is mansplaining.


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