People first, God second. Should people put themselves above

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Hogans heroes. A TV show.
Schultz on the show had a tag line I know "NOTHING"

The nice poster before me has signature and avatar Schultz.

Oh, okay!
For some reason, I didn't make the connection with that old TV show I used to watch as a kid.

People should be honest about God and money. God doesn't need money. Humans are the ones who created money and use it to survive. Don't try to take my money under the ruse of it being for God. It's clearly for humans. I never let what is human come between myself and spirituality. Doesn't matter what any human says. Don't be discouraged. Innate Spirituality is a right no human can trample with words or actions. As a gnostic, I believe this.

Single-mindedness is strange, but not playing Devil's advocate...


Can you name some of their more-interesting habits.

I would say it is not good as not all people are equal.

Equal under the law, no problem, but equal overall would not be good as we are not equal in all things.

Regards
DL

I think you are wrong.

As human animals, we are subject to evolution. As we evolve, we must at times cooperate, do good for our neighbor, or compete, which would be seen as evil as we created a loser to those competitions.

Look at the last time you competed for a job against your neighbors.

Did you put him above you or did you compete hard for that job with little, if any, consideration as to what hardship your neighbor would face if he lost at the competition?

Not likely, which belies your fist statement.

Do you see that?

Regards
DL

How can you put an absentee God ahead of someone who is present?

Many say they love God more yet one cannot love alone since love requires works and deeds and reciprocity and that cannot happen with an absentee God. Love cannot be true love when you are loving all alone.

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DL

Martin Luther would agree. I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P1YplwPzxQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_qnsTr7I04

I am a Gnostic Christian and like to compare my view to the views of other Gnostics and Gnostic Christians.

What do you call your God and how do you define the title or word God?

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DL

I have no name for God which is an innate force that empowers, strengthens, enlightens, comforts and endures. Since orthodoxy rejects gnosticism I dismiss orthodox texts written by humans as nothing more than just that - books about God and Spirits written by humans.

That sounds like a supernatural force and Gnostic Christians tend not to believe in the supernatural.

Might I suggest a couple of links for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9QI3nlinYQ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_complex

I give you those to ponder and compare to what Gnostic Christian Jesus said.

"If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you.
If they say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will precede you.
Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you.
[Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father.
But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

As you can see from that quote, if we see God's kingdom all around us and inside of us, we cannot think that the world is anything but evolving perfection. Most just don't see it and live in poverty.

It also implies that if the kingdom of God is within us, the we should name God I am the way the older Gnostic Christians did and really mean ourselves.

Regards
DL

My interpretation is very gnostic, centered on innate salvation. This is the essence of gnosticism. The divine spark within. This is supernatural in the sense you have a bit of Sophia within.

I am not about to contribute to Joel Osteens new jet because his wife misbehaves in first class.

My body is my temple and I dedicate it to my autistic friends son. I have an NT adult child. Post Natal care lasts forever.

Charity begins in the home. I give my all to my home, then family and friends. After that I'm spent. God lives within every good work we do. David and Goliath is relived in every fight an insurance company or school for your child.

Wisdom is not a supernatural thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_(wisdom)

What do you mean with the term innate salvation?

I know what innate means but what do you and I need saving from?

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DL

Thanks for this and your works.

Regards
DL

People can't be first. They cannot create anything. They just use what is already here. There are things that are not for you to know.

Whether Sophia is supernatural or not is something of which the philosophers quibble as they search in earnest for the elusive philosopher's stone. Gnosticism centers around this idea of containing the divine spark within and thus being predestined for salvation.