07 May 2017, 1:19 am
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Doesn't the proposed Trump care look great, its clear the federal government really cares for the health of all its citizens. 
Why can't America just have universal health care already? It's not that hard!
"That would be communist!"
- typical person who has never even read the communist manifesto
What part of the over expended budget would you cut to pay for expensive healthcare for 320million people?
I'm on Medicare and it's gotten worse, we are trillions and debt and get more so every year. We spend more then we make, which if was a person like me or you wouldn't be allowed.
So it's like you staring at your bank account and bills realizing you can't afford rent and food, while your kid demands you take them to Disney world. I wish we could have health care for all, but I also see it's impossible given the expense. We can hardly afford for people like me and sweet leaf on medical and it's stretched thin. Adding hundreds of millions more to it and the negative budget will only lead to America collapse and civil unrest. Really need to get the budget to a point where we actually make money for once and start paying off the huge debt we have. I don't think cutting welfare is the way to do that but universal health care for sure isn't
07 May 2017, 1:24 am
sly279 wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Doesn't the proposed Trump care look great, its clear the federal government really cares for the health of all its citizens.
Why can't America just have universal health care already? It's not that hard!
"That would be communist!"
- typical person who has never even read the communist manifesto
What part of the over expended budget would you cut to pay for expensive healthcare for 320million people?
I'm on Medicare and it's gotten worse, we are trillions and debt and get more so every year. We spend more then we make, which if was a person like me or you wouldn't be allowed.
So it's like you staring at your bank account and bills realizing you can't afford rent and food, while your kid demands you take them to Disney world. I wish we could have health care for all, but I also see it's impossible given the expense. We can hardly afford for people like me and sweet leaf on medical and it's stretched thin. Adding hundreds of millions more to it and the negative budget will only lead to America collapse and civil unrest. Really need to get the budget to a point where we actually make money for once and start paying off the huge debt we have. I don't think cutting welfare is the way to do that but universal health care for sure isn't
We need to cut military spending and tax the billionaires more. It's that simple.
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07 May 2017, 1:36 am
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
sly279 wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Doesn't the proposed Trump care look great, its clear the federal government really cares for the health of all its citizens.
Why can't America just have universal health care already? It's not that hard!
"That would be communist!"
- typical person who has never even read the communist manifesto
What part of the over expended budget would you cut to pay for expensive healthcare for 320million people?
I'm on Medicare and it's gotten worse, we are trillions and debt and get more so every year. We spend more then we make, which if was a person like me or you wouldn't be allowed.
So it's like you staring at your bank account and bills realizing you can't afford rent and food, while your kid demands you take them to Disney world. I wish we could have health care for all, but I also see it's impossible given the expense. We can hardly afford for people like me and sweet leaf on medical and it's stretched thin. Adding hundreds of millions more to it and the negative budget will only lead to America collapse and civil unrest. Really need to get the budget to a point where we actually make money for once and start paying off the huge debt we have. I don't think cutting welfare is the way to do that but universal health care for sure isn't
We need to cut military spending and tax the billionaires more. It's that simple.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
07 May 2017, 2:04 pm
sly279 wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Doesn't the proposed Trump care look great, its clear the federal government really cares for the health of all its citizens.
Why can't America just have universal health care already? It's not that hard!
"That would be communist!"
- typical person who has never even read the communist manifesto
What part of the over expended budget would you cut to pay for expensive healthcare for 320million people?
I'm on Medicare and it's gotten worse, we are trillions and debt and get more so every year. We spend more then we make, which if was a person like me or you wouldn't be allowed.
So it's like you staring at your bank account and bills realizing you can't afford rent and food, while your kid demands you take them to Disney world. I wish we could have health care for all, but I also see it's impossible given the expense. We can hardly afford for people like me and sweet leaf on medical and it's stretched thin. Adding hundreds of millions more to it and the negative budget will only lead to America collapse and civil unrest. Really need to get the budget to a point where we actually make money for once and start paying off the huge debt we have. I don't think cutting welfare is the way to do that but universal health care for sure isn't
Many people have explained in great detail why you can't compare federal budgets to household budgets. If you haven't understood then just take it as a matter of faith. But as a really simple explanation, is debt bad? No, of course not. Debt is necessary in order to get some things that you can't afford straight away. Student loans allow us to get an education and a high-paying job. Mortgages allow us to buy houses. Government borrowing allows citizens to live better lives, and if properly targeted, ultimately makes the government money.
You're a rich country and nobody cares if you are in debt. Plus you can afford to raise much more in taxes. Finally, single-payer healthcare would allow you to scrap all your inefficient Medicare and Medicaid spending.
07 May 2017, 2:07 pm
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07 May 2017, 2:55 pm
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
sly279 wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Doesn't the proposed Trump care look great, its clear the federal government really cares for the health of all its citizens.
Why can't America just have universal health care already? It's not that hard!
"That would be communist!"
- typical person who has never even read the communist manifesto
What part of the over expended budget would you cut to pay for expensive healthcare for 320million people?
I'm on Medicare and it's gotten worse, we are trillions and debt and get more so every year. We spend more then we make, which if was a person like me or you wouldn't be allowed.
So it's like you staring at your bank account and bills realizing you can't afford rent and food, while your kid demands you take them to Disney world. I wish we could have health care for all, but I also see it's impossible given the expense. We can hardly afford for people like me and sweet leaf on medical and it's stretched thin. Adding hundreds of millions more to it and the negative budget will only lead to America collapse and civil unrest. Really need to get the budget to a point where we actually make money for once and start paying off the huge debt we have. I don't think cutting welfare is the way to do that but universal health care for sure isn't
We need to cut military spending and tax the billionaires more. It's that simple.
Yes.
Also, WE ALREADY HAVE UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE in that no one can be denied care if they can make it to an emergency room. The problem is, the emergency room is the least efficient, most expensive way to give care.
If we had medicare for all, costs would be drastically reduced.
Counties less wealthy than the US (like every other 1st world country) do universal healthcare.
To say that we cannot do this too is simply asinine.
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