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07 Nov 2020, 11:28 pm

cyberdad wrote:
I posted links which you are refusing to read...not my problem


I did read the articles. They do not support your claim that Trump has barricaded himself in the White House or that he is holed up in the White House.



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07 Nov 2020, 11:29 pm

Sure it does buddy, just read the articles....



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07 Nov 2020, 11:30 pm

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Sure it does buddy, just read the articles....


Sorry I keep missing it. Show me where.



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07 Nov 2020, 11:39 pm

From the article

Donald Trump is still insisting that he has won the US presidential election despite it being called for Joe Biden.
News networks announced Joe Biden as the winner of the US presidential election on Saturday (US time) while Mr Trump was playing golf.
He returned to the White House amid wild scenes of celebration and was greeted with boos and middle fingers.
Mr Trump has released a statement saying he doesn’t intend to concede and followed this up with tweets that he believes he won.

Donald J. Trump
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THE OBSERVERS WERE NOT ALLOWED INTO THE COUNTING ROOMS. I WON THE ELECTION, GOT 71,000,000 LEGAL VOTES. BAD THINGS HAPPENED WHICH OUR OBSERVERS WERE NOT ALLOWED TO SEE. NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE. MILLIONS OF MAIL-IN BALLOTS WERE SENT TO PEOPLE WHO NEVER ASKED FOR THEM!
8:53 AM · Nov 8, 2020
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 07ba3061f7



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07 Nov 2020, 11:45 pm

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Donald Trump is still insisting that he has won the US presidential election despite it being called for Joe Biden.
News networks announced Joe Biden as the winner of the US presidential election on Saturday (US time) while Mr Trump was playing golf.
He returned to the White House amid wild scenes of celebration and was greeted with boos and middle fingers.
Mr Trump has released a statement saying he doesn’t intend to concede and followed this up with tweets that he believes he won.

Donald J. Trump
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THE OBSERVERS WERE NOT ALLOWED INTO THE COUNTING ROOMS. I WON THE ELECTION, GOT 71,000,000 LEGAL VOTES. BAD THINGS HAPPENED WHICH OUR OBSERVERS WERE NOT ALLOWED TO SEE. NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE. MILLIONS OF MAIL-IN BALLOTS WERE SENT TO PEOPLE WHO NEVER ASKED FOR THEM!
8:53 AM · Nov 8, 2020
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 07ba3061f7



If that's the answer to my question, there's nothing in that about Trump barricading himself in the White House or being holed up in the White House. Just simply that he returned to the White House after a round of golf.

So I'll ask again, why are you going around making stuff up?



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07 Nov 2020, 11:45 pm

Just 1hr ago
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame ... 687d#67604
1h agoNovember 8, 2020
HIGHLIGHT
Blame game starts after Trump loss

Charis Chang
Donald Trump hasn’t conceded defeat yet but the blame game has already begun.
News networks called the US presidential election for Joe Biden on Saturday (US time) while Mr Trump was playing golf.
He returned to the White House amid wild scenes of celebration and was greeted with boos and middle fingers.
Mr Trump has released a statement saying he doesn’t intend to concede and tweeted that he believes he won.



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07 Nov 2020, 11:48 pm

Tempus Fugit wrote:
Just simply that he returned to the White House after a round of golf.

So I'll ask again, why are you going around making stuff up?


His son-in-law is asking him to a) concede defeat and b) leave the whitehouse
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 43395.html
Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner being considered for an ‘intervention’ if president refuses to leave White House



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07 Nov 2020, 11:49 pm

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Just 1hr ago
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame ... 687d#67604
1h agoNovember 8, 2020
HIGHLIGHT
Blame game starts after Trump loss

Charis Chang
Donald Trump hasn’t conceded defeat yet but the blame game has already begun.
News networks called the US presidential election for Joe Biden on Saturday (US time) while Mr Trump was playing golf.
He returned to the White House amid wild scenes of celebration and was greeted with boos and middle fingers.
Mr Trump has released a statement saying he doesn’t intend to concede and tweeted that he believes he won.


That still does not support your claim that Trump has barricaded himself or is holed up.



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07 Nov 2020, 11:54 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
Just simply that he returned to the White House after a round of golf.

So I'll ask again, why are you going around making stuff up?


His son-in-law is asking him to a) concede defeat and b) leave the whitehouse
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 43395.html
Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner being considered for an ‘intervention’ if president refuses to leave White House

You are able to read right?


Yes, I am able to read.

That is a 'what if' scenario of something that has not actually happened.

It, along with several other articles you've posted, does not support your claim that Trump has barricaded himself or is holed up.



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07 Nov 2020, 11:56 pm

LOL! I enjoy this hair splitting because I can keep posting proof
Has Trump conceded?

No.

Mr Trump was at his golf course in Sterling, Virginia when the race was called, and returned to the White House in his presidential motorcade.

He's since tweeted about the result, claiming that he had won and continuing his baseless claims of election fraud:


In a statement, Mr Trump said the election was "far from over".
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-08/ ... n/12859490



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08 Nov 2020, 12:16 am

cyberdad wrote:
LOL! I enjoy this hair splitting because I can keep posting proof
Has Trump conceded?

No.

Mr Trump was at his golf course in Sterling, Virginia when the race was called, and returned to the White House in his presidential motorcade.

He's since tweeted about the result, claiming that he had won and continuing his baseless claims of election fraud:


In a statement, Mr Trump said the election was "far from over".
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-08/ ... n/12859490


Please explain how him not having conceded yet means that he has barricaded himself or is holed up.

Please explain how "returned to the White House in his presidential motorcade" means that has barricaded himself or is holed up.



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08 Nov 2020, 12:41 am

Mate where else is the orange one? he's holed up in the whitehouse.

Why don't you find evidence he isn't where I said he was?

What are you his lawyer?



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08 Nov 2020, 1:14 am

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Mate where else is the orange one? he's holed up in the whitehouse.

Why don't you find evidence he isn't where I said he was?


There is no dispute that the president resides in the White House.

The dispute is that you made up the claim that he has barricaded himself within the White House.

cyberdad wrote:
What are you his lawyer?


No I'm the person pointing out that you're making stuff up.



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08 Nov 2020, 1:27 am

Let me make this very simple guys. TONE IT DOWN. Personal attacks like insinuating that someone can't read aren't allowed, and if you have an issue with someone, talk to them about it somewhere other than our forum.


https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/presidential-inauguration-white-house-move-in

The current term president will continue to live in the White House until January 20th, Inauguration Day. Joe Biden will not be moving in and Trump will not be officially moving out until that day.



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08 Nov 2020, 4:57 am

Tempus Fugit wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Mate where else is the orange one? he's holed up in the whitehouse.

Why don't you find evidence he isn't where I said he was?


There is no dispute that the president resides in the White House.

The dispute is that you made up the claim that he has barricaded himself within the White House.

cyberdad wrote:
What are you his lawyer?


No I'm the person pointing out that you're making stuff up.


So far, there is no evidence that Mr Trump won't leave the white house on January 20 (either 2021, or 2025, depending on the outcome of the election and associated recounts\lawsuits - They lasted until mid Decmeber in 2000).

There is a lot of insinuation\fantasising that he won't from those who do not agree with him or his supporters, however this has no factual base (the closest is "anonymous sources" which are meaningless, being that could be the writer's imagination, rather than any person with knowledge).

The use of loaded language (with no factual basis) such as "barricaded" or "holed up" seems designed more to inflame people (potentially aiming to get members to breach site rules, and so banned) than to convey accurate information.



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08 Nov 2020, 5:33 am

The language is being used in the media, I am not making it up as certain people are insinuating.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/11 ... concession

I find it strange that if this is hype then why is Jaryd Kushner is trying an intervention to get his father-in-law to concede and leave the whitehouse.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/iv ... r-BB1aLwhH