I think Aspergeans should NOT have children
That is your perrogative, stick with it. I'm really sick of the inferior and superior gene chat because it reminds me of ethnic cleansing
People always feel the need to be better than everyone else and if they aren't better than you at your so called limited interests then they will show that they are better than you at collecting people much like you collect your objects of choice or knowledge. In the end, it's still a form of collecting.
Well, a rather unhappy development related to this thread.
My wife and I were watching a TV show that talked about Treacher Collins Syndrome. My wife said that if she found that she was carrying a child that had something like that she'd have an abortion. Thinking of this thread I said, "well, you know, Asperger's is often inhereted from the parents."
After a moment she said, "well, hopefully they can test for that sort of thing by the time we have kids."
I asked why.
She said so she could have an abortion if the baby has AS.
I was devastated. She's basically said that she'd rather abort our child than have one that's like me. At the moment I'm really re-evaluating my relationship with her. I never thought my own wife would feel the way these other people do.
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My wife and I were watching a TV show that talked about Treacher Collins Syndrome. My wife said that if she found that she was carrying a child that had something like that she'd have an abortion. Thinking of this thread I said, "well, you know, Asperger's is often inhereted from the parents."
After a moment she said, "well, hopefully they can test for that sort of thing by the time we have kids."
I asked why.
She said so she could have an abortion if the baby has AS.
I was devastated. She's basically said that she'd rather abort our child than have one that's like me. At the moment I'm really re-evaluating my relationship with her. I never thought my own wife would feel the way these other people do.
I would never abort my own child, for whatever reason.
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I was in a "special ed" class in first grade because I didn't speak English. However, I learned more in that class than I ever learned in my life. I wound up reading at fifth grade level by the end of first grade. I don't think I would have realized my potential if I had been in a regular classroom.
I scored high on verbal tests, so I am definitely not "ret*d" in that respect. I am very shy, bookish and an introvert. I consider myself somewhat of a nerd.
I think that more people need too realize that not all students who wind up in Special Ed are slow learners. I've considered myself a really fast learner, when I was growing up. I was always one of the first pupils in my class to get my work done. The reason that I was put into Special Ed, was because of the poor social skills that I was having, at the age of six. I think that what the OP said about some of us admitting to being in Special Ed, was very ignorant on his part. If I ever end up winning a lottery, and finding a good man, I'll have lots of children. Heck! I'd even post their pictures on this site, just to rub it in his face. I'd be having kids, because I want to, and not in spite of him.
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i am an aspie dad w/an aspie son. to evilmonkey why dont you get your testicles cut off for ignorance. Because people like you shouldnt breed.
to admins here- this was published in google and emailed to me. please be more responsible with your site. it shoulda been deleted by an admin or mod asap. with a stickey aplology. lock this thred out ! !!
So what exactly about what i said was wrong? Call the thought police and cry more
You say that I (as a 15 year old guy) should have my balls cut off and should never breed for having a dodgy (and perhaps offensive) philosophy of aspergers syndome and expressing it on an internet forum?
You are either a troll, or the biggest most dangerous moron ever.
If you really knew so much about aspergers you would understand the previous post should be put aside, sure I made was just a pissed off attack at the credibility of many of this forums members, but I later said to "disregard it" cause it was fuelled by anger at other s**t.
The owner of this forum should have final say in this matter of course - So Alex should I be banned ?
Edit: Interesting to see that currently on your site the only members are you and what appears to be your son, other than that theres its just me
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My wife and I were watching a TV show that talked about Treacher Collins Syndrome. My wife said that if she found that she was carrying a child that had something like that she'd have an abortion. Thinking of this thread I said, "well, you know, Asperger's is often inhereted from the parents."
After a moment she said, "well, hopefully they can test for that sort of thing by the time we have kids."
I asked why.
She said so she could have an abortion if the baby has AS.
I was devastated. She's basically said that she'd rather abort our child than have one that's like me. At the moment I'm really re-evaluating my relationship with her. I never thought my own wife would feel the way these other people do.
I would be devastated too.
My wife and I were watching a TV show that talked about Treacher Collins Syndrome. My wife said that if she found that she was carrying a child that had something like that she'd have an abortion. Thinking of this thread I said, "well, you know, Asperger's is often inhereted from the parents."
After a moment she said, "well, hopefully they can test for that sort of thing by the time we have kids."
I asked why.
She said so she could have an abortion if the baby has AS.
I was devastated. She's basically said that she'd rather abort our child than have one that's like me. At the moment I'm really re-evaluating my relationship with her. I never thought my own wife would feel the way these other people do.
Better you found that out sooner than later though.
How is adopting a child making the child any less "yours"? If you've suffered and all, how are you going to say that your unhappiness with your problems no matter what label you have isn't going to affect your parenting? A child adopted or biological is still your child. Seriously if you can't get a handle on your own life enough to be able to accept yourself and find ways to cope and all, you're not going to be able to adopt because those agencies look a lot at how a parent to be will handle things and all.
OK, first off, I am offended. I'm a very typical aspie. I'm happy with who I am. I have a wonderful NT son. If he was even more like me, that would be great too. I'm not the one who has a problem. Yes I have suffered. Not becasue of my autisim but becasue of people like you who view this as some sort of disability. Its not. Try to sign up for SSDI if you don't believe me. There are lots of NTs who have poor soft skills. We're just born that way but we can learn them. I'm a great dad. I'm differnt but still a great dad. My son really enjoys and shares some of my interests just not to an obsessive degree. He understands and shares my perverse sesne of humor. If anything, my only regret in life is that I didn't have more children. Unfortunatly, my wife was unable to have any more. I did give some thought to hooking up with a younger fertile aspie woman (yes I'm talking about you Sue), but that's not going to happen.
In my case, whenever I think about having kids, I ask myself some of the following questions (and these are just hypothetical questions, as I'd first need to find a woman to reproduce with, which so far seems like an extremely difficult task to accomplish):
1) Why would you want to bring kids to this world to suffer the way you suffered?
2) Why would you want to degenerate the human gene pool even further?
3) Given my neuropsychological condition, am I really fit to raise a child?
4) Given all my flaws and defects, what example will I give my children?
So what do you all think about the way I think in regards to "aspergean reproduction"? Are my views too negative?
(I hope I did not offend anyone with my comments.)
1) Honestly i think about this alot
2) I do not think i am degenerating the human gene pool when i am doing things which many NTs cannot even do
3) I am a big friendly giant so yes i am fit
4) I am the boat on the stormy ocean so if i can do it so can you
I do not want to go thru the whole lot of *i did this and i did that and hardships and tears and finally wahh wahh wail call an
ambulance* stuff.
But yes i did went thru a whole lot and i am living the good life.
My wife and I were watching a TV show that talked about Treacher Collins Syndrome. My wife said that if she found that she was carrying a child that had something like that she'd have an abortion. Thinking of this thread I said, "well, you know, Asperger's is often inhereted from the parents."
After a moment she said, "well, hopefully they can test for that sort of thing by the time we have kids."
I asked why.
She said so she could have an abortion if the baby has AS.
I was devastated. She's basically said that she'd rather abort our child than have one that's like me. At the moment I'm really re-evaluating my relationship with her. I never thought my own wife would feel the way these other people do.
That is one serious problem...I know it can't feel much like it, but, as they say "better out than in"...at least you can deal with it now.
I find myself not knowing what to say to you, just knowing how I would feel - have felt - upon making similar discoveries about people, but never anyone that close, and it's an awful feeling.
The two of you are going to have to sort this out...and whatever decision you come to I hope it's the best one for both of you...
I can't get away from the fact that, as a general rule of thumb, it is never a good idea to share your life with someone who would prefer you had been exterminated, given the choice...
M
Yes, I agree with the "better out than in" and "at least you know" side of things. I'm glad that I have a relationship with my wife that we can be honest about such things.
I'm seeing my psychologist tonight and I'm taking my wife along to see what we can sort out.
Hopefully, with time, my wife will see in a similar way to me, that the problems associated with AS can be minimised/handled and the advantages that come with having it are not to be underestimated.
It still hurts though. I do take things like this to heart.
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