Do you believe in God?

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My usual reply to the - do you believe in god question - is to say I'm an atheist. My god can't be measured by western standards. But rather than just negating the western concept of god, I've found resonance with the eastern version. For me it's very positive and uplifting, not simply a negation of western deity.

People might not recognize it, but I have faith and it's solid. When I feel weak and insecure I lean into it. It's an eastern thing. I can't understand the personal creator god thing so I don't even try. My belief is that you can't point to anything and say it isn't god. Linear thinking is necessary in daily life but I'm more comfortable without it. So my spiritual beliefs resonate with no beginning and no end.

I would say there are times when I'm able to get beyond my thoughts and feelings. What propells me into that type of consciousness could be anything. It's not something I can do on demand but I want to be heading in that direction. What the easterners call spiritual enlightenment is what I'm talking about.

Greenblue, could you elaborate?

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Would you have us believe that you are, in fact, an enlightened buddha? Such beings are cosmicaly rare. It's nothing against you, nothing personal, but I very much doubt that you are a living buddha.

I was a Buddhist for a while before I came back to the church, you see.

I actually write religion.

I learned early in my study of religion something that I find terribly amusing. I can't take credit for it as I read it somewhere in my own personal research. It's quite possible I worked out this truth long before I read that other people think the way I do it's impossible to tell after 20 years of meditation and research. That's the most mysterious of points at which my own free will breaks down and I become what the Universe, Existence, God, has made of me. You know, free will, determinism and stuff. Is the Universe, Existence what I make of it, or is the Universe, Existence what it makes of me. I can't tell the difference.

I'v always been agnostic, I have in fact studied the history of agnosticism, the term agnosticism was actually coined, or at the very least explored by a little known, if still slightly, famous academic called Thomas.H.Huxley. He was the grandfather or great grandfather of Aldous Huxley.

The basic premise of agnosticism is very simple.

It is just as incorrect to beleive one knows what the power that governs Existence is, as much as it is incorrect to believe that there is no power that governs Existence.

It is just as stupid to actually believe in God as it is stupid to believe that no God exists.

The Universe acts like a vast firewall if I may use that analogy. Human beings can gain no actual information about whether God exists, or does not exist.

I write religion, I have heard no voices.

I do not know the future.

I do not know what governs Existence, or if anything governs it at all.

I do not know what happens to the personality of a person when they die.

And I am quite proud of the fact that I write religion and that I am bound by the same laws of science that all human beings are bound by.

My entire family is quite bent intellectually, my grandfather, cousin and Uncle are all athiest, they are both scientists and accountants respectively.

I'm the black, or blue, sheep of the family. If you'll pardon my rather esoteric pun. I'v kinda transcended my blue period. I think I'v gone into my azure period at this point. Or maybe my green period, or f*****g rainbow coloured period. At this point in time I am what I say I am, I say what it is I say I do and I, Just, Am.

However, if one is truely objective about the subject about whether God exists, or doesn't exist then the current absolute truth in relation to human Existence, is that one can gain no information, of any kind, about either premise. The true position one must take if one wishes to be enlightened is agnosticism.

The only correct intellectual stance one can take as to whether God exists or does not exist, is that one can gain no information about either premise.

I'v given humanity permission to say "I don't know what the truth is, in relation to what governs the Universe, or, if anything governs it at all".

I guess one could set up a control experiment where one takes a thousand or so people and learns to stop their Life processes, just long enough, that they can be resucitated and then interview them about their experience. However, I'm not sure one would receive any definitive data from such a drastic experiment.

Transcention Universia.

AKA - SaToriBluE

Further essential reading on my own personal theories that relate to the nature of Existence - http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt74903.html

In direct answer to your second question, at some point, human beings may actually find someway, through science or otherwise that proves definitively all kinds of things about how Existence is governed. But that day isn't today. One has to work with the point in spacetime that human beings are currently at, and work our way up. You don't have to have the answer to what governs Existence, maybe it's just part of the journey of Life. It if takes a million, or a billion years to work out what governs Existence, seriously, what's the rush? Take your time humanity, enjoy the journey. Try and survive, that's priority number one, and then see how far that journey takes you. Humanity isn't going to work out anything at all, if it's extinct. Humanity has to stop lying to itself and leading itself onto the path of self deception and needs to start accepting the limits of the point of spacetime it exists in. If I were to tell you some grandiose story, that I had some kind of religious revelation that explained everything about what governs Existence, would that in anyway improve your Life, or improve humanities chance to survive in the Universe? No if I lied to you, then I would be doing the exact opposite, I would be accelerating humanity towards, potentially, extinction, or worse.

Think about it, I write religion. You can't get more religious than that. One cannot have a more definitive religious experience than having one's entire being, being completely subservient to the process of writing religion. I've pulled up a chair dozons of times, asked God, or one of it's subordinates to appear and give me at least the most vague explanation of what Existence is all about. Guess what? The chair stayed empty. One cannot get more faithful or religious than me. My whole being is completely devoted to writing religion to the very extent of my human ability and I have had no direct contact with any supremely, alien, divine, or technological force that governs Existence. Your not allowed to have that information, man. Humanity, just doesn't have the clearence to access that information, trust me.

I have an inate gift in that I write religion. There is no rational explanation for it. I write religion no different to a plumber fixes toilets, or a psychiatrist antagonises their poor patients.

I'm also very non-neurotypical from the very extent of the neurodiversity of the world I live in and I am very Ill. My mind is sharp as it can be, but my brain and body is locked into some kind of state of neurological/cognitive anomoly that would in some forums be celebrated and make me insanely rich, instead, I am here giving you some of the most incalcuably valuable information for free. Life only know why it gifted me the way it did and made me as agonizingly ill as I am.

My whole being is completely sequestered for the task, it's all I have ever thought about. All I have done for as long as I can remember is calculate the current state human beings find themselves at, at this particular point in spacetime and I calculate the dimensions of a religion that is relevent to the times in which I live.

I am not a prophet, messiah, buddah or any such notion.

My name is Michael Williamson, my alias is Transcention Unversia, I just thought that was dignified and catchy, the name of my religion is Universalism, and I am human. Techniqually, there is a Christian sect that labels themselves Universalist, but f**k em, the name is way to cool for them to use. I'm commandeering it in the name of sanity. Through my authority, as something no one has ever seen before. Screw them they can't have it.

I am a human being and I write religion. I am bound by the same laws of science and nature that all human beings are bound by. I am imperfect. My writing is imperfect, even if I am a perfectionist by nature.

Religion to me is merely a conceptual framework that groups of people can use to relate to each other better and have a reason to hang out with each other. I can elaborate but I am on a simplicity trip right now.

I'v always been naturally agnostic. I simply looked at Existence and decided that I can access no information about what governs Existence, or for that matter if anything at all governs Existence. And I have thought LONG AND HARD, about it.

One often finds that one is not alone is how one understands Existence. One often finds that people have come before them that have seen Existence the way they themselves see it. I discovered the concept of Agnosticism through my study and research and followed the concept back to it's source. It's fascinating to research Thomas.H.Huxley. He's a little known academic who basically coined one of the most significant concepts in the human language. He was also good friends with Charles Darwin for the record. His importance to human history is as important as the work Newton and Einstein did, to me personally.

But I'v always been naturally agnostic, it is the only objective, intellectual position one can make in relation to whether God exists, or doesn't exist.

It's okay to say "I Don't Know". One doesn't need to have the answers to the more profound questions that human beings can ask about Existence.''

It's okay to write religion that says. Human beings don't know if God exists or does not exist. In fact it's preferable if the writer of a religion actually has any code of conduct they hold themselves to or has a high level of standards that they hold themselves to.

I write religion that is relevent to people who think the way I do.

I find a lot of people tend to become aethiest because they are so disgusted by the current state of human religion that they simple retreat to a position where they don't actually have to do anything about the poor state of human religion as it stands.

Religion is however the author with their own free will decides to write it. Well it's a bit more complicated than that now isn't it?

What I can tell you is that it is just as stupid to not believe in God as it is to believe in God. Both positions are equally unconstructive.

Techniqually, though for the record, Agnosicism, as a concept, and as one of the true keys to enlightenment, belongs to all human beings who wish to reach what tiny fraction of a degree of enlightenement that human beings are capable of attaining. Agnosticism is the truth no one in a sense owns it. It's like one of the beacons in Existence that is just there to guide those that truely wish to be enlightened, that one sees if one is intellectually agile enough.

Feel free to prove me wrong but it's impossible to argue against the absolute truth in relation to the current point in spacetime that human beings find themselves at.

The truth is that one can gain no information about whether God (sic) exists, or does not exist.

Of course the very concept of God takes some elaboration in relation to the probabilities of what it might actually be, but probabilities do not equal the reality of what might or might now govern Existence.

I know the true nature of God as it relates to human beings.

The true nature of God is that we, as human beings, know absolutely nothing about it.

It's a bit of a trick question. But hey what can I say. I'm not here to tell you that I know what is impossible to know.

Welcome and Greetings, Transcention. Thank you for your posts.

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I live in almost absolute seclusion, I humble myself before you.

My theories, philosophies and religion is yours to do with as you will.

No one I have met has given me any respect, nor, assistence, aside from my wife, in my most lonely of trade.

I should be teaching at University, people should be interested in what I give you, for free. Even if I am meaningless next to what I actually write.

I am alone in what I create. I am a pariah. I am a heretic.

I am an absolute heretic.

Your eyes, are almost the only eyes, ever to have seen what I write.

I like to remind people of my absolute humanity. I like people to know how agonising my cognitive anomaly is.

I sometimes wonder if Life made me so terribly imperfect, so that the writing I do, somehow has more meaning.

I have to leave these forums soon. I won't be able to come back for a long time. My mind is about to shut down again. There will be no more editing, there will be no more writing for a while. I need to shut down soon and go back to seclusion.

But I'v been glad to share what I know.

I'm torn between sharing what I know, so that one day I can make a living from the writing I do. I know for a fact my wife doesn't want me to tell you all what I know, because she sees a future in it's publishing that by sharing it I might destroy through plagurism.

I have dreams.

I want to build a worldwide religion based on my philosophies, so I can build temples, and the infrastructure that I need that can spread these ideas of mine across off all humanity.

I want to build schools, universities, and fund every type of scientific research that is possible.

I'm so ill, though. Can you imagine what would happen if I wasn't ill? It would be beautiful.

I am just as much a slave to my Aspergers as I am a slave to the philosophy that I write.

Until I die though, my work will never end. I can only hope that I succeed. The odds in my case are not high. I have no assistence. I have no one to talk to. People avoid me like I am cursed. The sanest man alive, may die without not a soul ever knowing what I know.

But where there is Life, there is hope.

When I do walk away from this forum, and soon I will walk away, and I will be all alone again aside from my wife, I know that no one will be there to assist me. And Life only knows I need all the help I can get.