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Your post is incredibly racist. I don't care if some Japanese people killed your uncle, that's no excuse. In middle school, a black guy, an Indian girl and two Asian guys made fun of me constantly, yet I don't refer to them using racial slurs. That's beyond the pale.

Ok ruveyn i can probably anticipate the answer here, but would your uncle or any of your countrymen wished for peace? To live? Isn't up to those that survive /live to learn of the past? (like i said, i could probably understand if your uncle was a copy of what you are, but if he wasn't well, it's still worth a thought.)

My father fought in the war in Europe he saw comrades killed by Germans he was shot at by Germans and he killed Germans. Never once have I heard him describe them as those Bastard Krauts, Or vermin Box Heads.

Ruveyn you weren't shot at by anybody. it is plain to see that you have been affected by the attitudes of a time long gone. Get over it.

Once again like so many people who have racist views you see world events only from your own nationalistic perspective, you give no thought to the reasons for the war with Japan other than ''Those sneaky beggars bombed Pearl Harbour without warning and slew nearly 3000 of my countrymen''

You say that it is ok to use derogatory names for a race of people because that is how you have always called them, so by that logic it must be OK for your generation to continue to call African Americans 'n****rs' or 'wogs' 'darkies' 'Black Bastards' and goodness knows what other terms were once popular. By your same argument It is OK to call you a k*e, Hooknose, Hebe, Yid, Zhidan.

Obviously it is not ok to use these terms. They are offensive, hurtful and inflammatory. As I said earlier Racism is one of the most destructive and vile traits that humans possess.

I wonder how sheltered a life I've lived sometimes. Every time one of these arguments comes up I learn so many new and colorful words for my vocabulary. O.o

well, warning them about the attack would be kind of pointless, wouldn't it?


Hmmm, two atomic bombings in Japan, having killed a lot of them, and most of them, civilians, I would say that pretty much, many shed lots of tears.

If you are being serious then it goes some way to proving my point.

To paraphrase you: "The same Frogs invaded under a false pretences western German, burned down whole cities like Speyer, Heidelberg, plundered and killed whole regions, just recovered from the most horrible war ever ... " I am talking about the War of Palatine Succession (1688–1697), in which France under Louis XIV tried to expand France into the east, after he already took big parts of Germany in Peace of Westphalia. When he realized that he could not win this war he started a policy of the scorched earth ("Brùlez le Palatinat" - Burn Palatine)

One of the things nations shall learn is not to take old hate ad infinitum. If they don't a peaceful future isn't possible.

Ruveyn,
as a older woman, and one that remembers from my mother's scrapbooks how the public in the U.S. was indoctrinated to demonize the enemy both in characters and in language, I would like to say my mother, rest her soul, never stopped using the derogatory terms for the enemy of the huge war in her life. Using demonizing terms was how my mom and dad were taught to express themselves, and in school, in the 1950's I was taught by people that went through that war and was taught to call them by those names because we won. I also learned to call black people by derogatory names and (gasp) no one mentioned men that loved men at all!
Struggling through unlearning is a task no younger person has had to deal with, because they were raised in a different era and a different way. It is confusing to have to abandon habits of a lifetime because the times have changed. It is no simple task, and especially when one does not see the need to coddle others in the white hot hatred of losing someone they loved to the enemy.

So remember the habits you are acquiring today may someday be 'out of fashion' by the march of progress in the world, and remember when your children's children say "oh, grandpa! we don't do THAT anymore" remember when you said it yourselves.

Merle

That said, I still moderate a forum that does not allow racist statements and will follow our rules of warnings and bannings if it does not stop. I am not asking you to change your mind, just your language while on WrongPlanet.

Merle
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As someone who was in the US Army during WWII from 1944 to 1946 and who has had Japanese friends at the time(and still do) and who demonstrated for CORE during the civil rights movement in Tennessee in the early 1960s I remember well all the problems of the era and I understand that when a relative was killed in the conflicts it is not easy to dismiss the viciousness generated by the necessities of war. Ruveyn no doubt has been severely hurt by these things as no doubt hundreds of thousands of Japanese have by the same events. I recognize his language and discount it. I disagree almost totally with some of his most violent proposals which, it seems to me, are very poorly thought out. Just today the Arab leaders have closed ranks behind Omar Hassan al Bashir of Sudan which almost gives me some sympathy for ruveyn's fury at that section of the world. When you have lived a long time and seen the unnecessary horror humanity inflicts upon itself an internal fury becomes something in your bones where they frequently develop a white heat. Take it easy on ruveyn.

Your statement that you'd rather an innocent Iraqi die than an innocent American is very typical of the populist mindset. Better for one of them to git killed than one of us"....... I find it very *curious* why certain aspies like you choose to be loyal to a group, a VERY LARGE group that certainly doesnt care about me which is why I dont believe in patriotism.

Is this thread joke or what? Or has ruveyn really just let all his angst out in a big racist blob? What's happening?

And no, to the OP, I don't think Islam should be contained, instead (if you are genuine about this whole thing), I think people should stop being so scared that a small group of largely discredited extremists are spreading like the plague across the world, bringing with them death, destruction and woe. Agression only begets more aggression, and the sooner people realise that, the sooner things might actually make sense in this thread and who knows? Maybe outside where things actually matter.
I'm not saying it's easy to always to peaceful and find nonviolent solutions (indeed, sometimes violence is the only course of action), but if we don't try to find them, then we won't, will we?

Also, in before the lock.

First of all Islam is not a race, it is a religion. It beleives itself to be an expansion upon Christianity, as Christianity is upon Judaism.
Second of all, about 99% of Moslems are good people who aren't 'Islamo-fascists'. The 'Islamo-fascists' simply are getting all the press, and most all we know comes from the press, which is heavily biased in the first place.
Third of all, Islamic culture is not because of islam, but because of the culture existing there before. Simply put, the fact that may different areas who are Islamic act in bizarre or even bad ways aren't Islam's fault, it is the fault of the culture that already existed.
Fourth of all, the spread of Islam isn't a threat. Islam, at its core, is kind and compassionate. Islam is, in fact, a peaceful religion that proclaims that Christians and Jews are 'People of the Book' and are holy and correct in their own right.

And Fifth of all, the 'defense' against Islam would be a terrible idea. Cultural Diffusion is exactly how cultures have evolved and changed. 'Defending' agains Islam would be like defending against Fast Food restaraunts, Coca-Cola, and other American enterprises.

Finally, A note should say that because I have said so many nice things about Islam one might think I am a Moslem. I am in fact a Jew and proud of it. Thank my 9th grade Ancient/Medieval History course.

This is exaclty why I believe Religion should be a core subject in all schools. Not religious education from the perspective of promoting one religion but a core subject teaching about the various religions, their beliefs, histories and perverted versions.

Of course as an Atheist I would also like to see the subject highlight the base stupidity of all religions

And for the Hindus, atheists, Zoroastrians, Shintos, and...

Look up dhimmi status in Islamic domains and perhaps you will reconsider your position.

ruveyn

Islam is not race, I agree.

Islam is totalitarian ideology designed to subjugate all of mankind under fanatic religious dogma.