Our New President - President Donald Trump

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I don't like the fact that the Russians are being kowtowed too---like they are our allies or something.

If one is Soviet in thought, one desires the destruction of America, and of all entities which are not Communist. Putin is an ex-KGB agent,he was a high-level agent, in fact.

Still, even if Sessions and others talked to the Russians, I wouldn't go as far as to charge them with treason, though.

To charge the loyal opposition for treason merely for opposing reeks of something along the lines of Henry VIII's notions pertaining to non-adherents to the Church of England--all because the Pope didn't want him to divorce Katherine of Aragon.

Amid his apparent gruffness, Meistersinger has a soft heart of gold.

I've met many people like that. It's a paradox, really.

I understand about the "currents of history" and all that.

If Russia was under somebody else other than Putin---somebody with less Soviet leanings--I wouldn't mind it so much.

But I still am troubled by our overtures to the Russians, because they seem to want to revert back to their Soviet past.

I do hope that many industrial/factory jobs are restored which were lost under NAFTA. I find that would be an excellent thing, indeed, and would do credit to Trump.

I still don't like the doublespeak atmosphere of his administration, though.

I just wish we would dispense with the doublespeak on all sides, frankly. Both sides are engaged in it.

I am glad that, except for the Patriot Act, that we were able to maintain, for the most part, our democracy-integrity. We could easily have become more of a police state had we been under an authoritarian-type President after 9/11.

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If your adversaries are simply monsters, then obviously you have to go to any lengths to destroy them.

Putin is a despotic thug.

It depends on how you define a “despot,” and There is a wide range of views about Putin in both the US and among the member states of the UN. These views range from very negative to very positive.

But democrats do seem to have quite a preoccupation with seeing monsters and boogeymen.

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Putin's been in power 18 years. Russia hasn't materially benefited, at all, from his presence.

If given a choice, like we're given a choice, do you believe Putin would keep on getting re-elected?

Where did Lincoln get the Internet from?

From the Chariots of the Gods?

That just brings things back to conjecture based on suspicion.

It's conjecture based upon the fact that Putin, under a less authoritarian regime, would probably have been supplanted long ago.

He would have been held more accountable for his actions.

No from the Russians. They're also responsible for his election and assassination.

You're darn tootin' they were!

Those darn Tsarist Russians!

Wrong. You do not know how bad things were under Boris Yeltsin, to say Russians haven't materially benefited at all during Putin's time in office is talking out your ass. Putin has the broad support of the vast majority of the Russian people, what do you know of the Russian opposition to say he wouldn't be re-elected? I doubt very much. Putin is a nationalist and who restored honor to Russia after a decade of humiliation, just because you don't like or I should say the people who crafted your opinion don't like a leader does not change reality. It's so stupid when you actually back up and take stock of who the US is actually friends with, Russia is not our enemy! America and the West in general is far less free than it realizes, there is a deep state in this country that controls the media which has long been able to manipulate public opinion until very recently and our freedom only goes as far as it aligns with their interests.

It would be instructive if you lived in Russia.

It would be instructive if I lived in Russia.

Then we would know better what we are talking about.

Sure we are manipulated by the media and all that----but we don't have to pay bribes to get basic bureaucratic stuff done---like get our own birth certificate.

It would be nice if we could "drain the swamp."

It would be nice if we would divest ourselves on our dependence on oil--and, hence, on places like Saudi Arabia.

And to bring American jobs back. And to simplify our tax code, etc.

But...I don't think a tough, authoritarian-type approach is necessary to attain these things. A tough, authoritarian approach which stifles freedom of the press and other essential freedoms under out Constitution.

Adopting this approach, then claiming success because of this approach, sets a bad precedent.

It's a short path to despotism if this approach succeeds.