Our New President - President Donald Trump

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Facts are facts and what you are saying are lies, Russia is undoubted materially better off under Putin in the last 18 years so perhaps you should reevaluate who is teaching you these untruths as it is clearly with an agenda. There is even an easy infographic that was made a few years ago to illustrate the absurdity of what you just said.



Mind you they have been attacked in recent years with sanctions as well which have only strengthened the resolve of the Russian people in their support of Putin. Given who we are friends with and our own actions, to put ourselves on a moral pedestal above so far above Russia that we can't even talk to let alone work with them is so totally ridiculous that anyone literate about history and the current state of the world should know better.

How has all this affected the lot of the average Russian?

Now....that would be even more relevant.

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Who produced the infographic?

It should be remembered that Hitler materially enhanced, considerably, the lot of the average German.

This doesn't excuse the genocide, though.

Of course, Putin is no Hitler...but how much sacrifice must the Russian people make in exchange for this?

If Trump turns out to be a great leader, and implements successfully all which he proposes, while maintaining the accountability of leaders at the same relatively high level as previously, I'd be glad I am wrong.

I wouldn't eat my hat or my shoe---but I would bow down---not to the man--but to his accomplishments.

Someone who expects us to have forgotten their financial crisis, which started in August 98.

You just can't force morality on people.I can understand why people don't believe in abortion.I don't like it being used for birth control,I would prefer it was only done becuse it had to be.Like if a pregnancy would endanger the life of the women,rape or incest.I'd be all for encouraging women to put up the babies up for adoption.
The problem would be with the addicts,it's hard to keep someone clean for nine months of they don't want to be.People want to adopt healthy babies,the one born with problems from drug/alcohol use will most likely wind up in the system.
You can't stop women from having an abortion,they had them before it was legal.Rich women will just go on an abortion vacation,get a tan,get rid of fetus.
You will just force it underground and criminals will profit and they won't really care about how clean the facilities are or if a woman has complications.If she died,they'd just dump her in the river.
Making something illegal just won't stop a determined person from getting what they want.
If I wanted an automatic weapon,or illegal drugs I could find them easy enough.This county is dry,but I can get a case of beer and moonshine a few minutes from here.Its illegal,but all easily available.Apple Pie moonshine is the bomb!!
If I wanted to give myself an abortion it wouldn't be that hard.I know exactly what herbs to use.
It's also hard to get irresponsible people to be responsible,with all the birth control out there an unwanted pregnancy should be rare.Women that can't figure out why they keep getting preggers would probably forget the baby was in the bathtub till it's too late.

Thank you,she was a really sweet lady.We lost her to brain cancer.

A leader who arrests people in the media for opposing/criticizing them is a despotic goon.

Just because someone wins an election doesn't mean they can't be authoritarian goons. Sometimes the majority of the population just happens to want an elected dictator. It's something that happens over and over again all over the world. Hell, Hitlar won elections.

Doesn't Ban-Dodger live in Russia? He seems to like Putin.

Oh lordie. Haven't there been enough Hitler comparisons already?

Where is your evidence that there is a "deep state" controlling the media. Why can't you just accept that there are a lot of people who legitimately dislike Trump? I'm not arguing the media isn't biased. Sure it is. It probably just so happens that most people in the media business are not fond of Trump, and so that's how the slant comes out. Why must you insist that everyone who disagrees with you is a puppet with some shadowy figure's hand up their ass? That kind of argument makes you look deranged and frankly scary. Especially when you're so fond of calling people traitors, people who should be arrested, etc... Do you even know who you sound like?

I was making that comparison because this is precisely what happened:

People became much more prosperous under Hitler.

My point.....if moral degeneracy accompanies prosperity, then it cancels out the prosperity--and more.

Just because a person makes a nation prosperous--doesn't mean that the person is necessarily worth beans.

I wasn't equating Putin to Hitler. He doesn't believe, as far as I know, in putting races of people in gas chambers. He's just a run-of-the mill autocrat.

If Ban-Dodger likes Putin, no skin off my back.

I'm sure Putin has redeeming qualities.

Sure, Putin wants to rebuild Russia after years of humiliation. But he wants to do it at America's expense, as he blames America for the fall of the Soviet Empire, and the decline of Russian power. If it could be proven to you that Putin had it out for America, would you be so gung-ho for him?