Our New President - President Donald Trump
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I KNOW that. It's just that the New Yorker is a literary magazine, NOT a news source. Therefore, they're not credible. You want a credible news magazine from the U.S., try eith U.S. News and World Report, or The Christian Science Monitor.
The New Yorker stopped being a literary magazine by the 90s.
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Trump, his friends and his supporters will never admit Russia is connected to Trump and others. They will lie, shift blame and make up nonsense as long as they can. Jeff Sessions LIED under oath- but still has his job for now. Sickening! If it was a Democrat- Republicans would've made sure he resigned. I honestly feel this corrupt and evil Republican congress right now will let nearly anything slide. I also feel this could be bigger than Watergate.
I can't wait for elections for congress members and certain governors. I don't see many of them keeping their jobs- especially the ones that continue to skip town halls. Ignoring people is horrid! People can whine and claim "town hall crowds are just paid off by Obama, Soros and others" but that honestly isn't the case in every instance. I think people saw there was paid protestors, so they easily latch onto the belief that nearly all people are paid off. So stupid and obviously not real!
Reality will soon set in for most of America- especially when products from Mexico will likely go up in price to help pay for the wall. Sorry but Trump can't force Mexico to pay for the wall! It was just a lie to get votes, just like "drain the swamp" and other things.
If given a choice, like we're given a choice, do you believe Putin would keep on getting re-elected?
Wrong. You do not know how bad things were under Boris Yeltsin, to say Russians haven't materially benefited at all during Putin's time in office is talking out your ass. Putin has the broad support of the vast majority of the Russian people, what do you know of the Russian opposition to say he wouldn't be re-elected? I doubt very much. Putin is a nationalist and who restored honor to Russia after a decade of humiliation, just because you don't like or I should say the people who crafted your opinion don't like a leader does not change reality. It's so stupid when you actually back up and take stock of who the US is actually friends with, Russia is not our enemy! America and the West in general is far less free than it realizes, there is a deep state in this country that controls the media which has long been able to manipulate public opinion until very recently and our freedom only goes as far as it aligns with their interests.
Sure, Putin wants to rebuild Russia after years of humiliation. But he wants to do it at America's expense, as he blames America for the fall of the Soviet Empire, and the decline of Russian power. If it could be proven to you that Putin had it out for America, would you be so gung-ho for him?
Sure prove it, I think have a good understanding of the history of international relations and that's not my understanding of it. In fact, I believe Putin would be very eager to extend the olive branch if the US/allies were willing to respect their sovereignty & security interests. The US has been playing a game with Russia trying squeeze them out of their former zone of influence(allowing western business interests to take over) and to expand the antiquated anti-Russian NATO alliance to their door step with the promotion of ethnic separatism. This has been going on for 20 going on 30 years now, it doesn't serve the people of America/Russia/the EU/or even the former Soviet bloc. Russia supporting Trump because they want better relations and relief from sanctions is not insidious or corrupt in anyway, as I said many times one of the primary reasons I decided to support Trump so whole heartedly is because of his commitment to bettering relations with Russia which is 100% necessary for their ever to be progress in this War on Terror. Long term Russia could pose as a strategic hedge against a more aggressive China, I think people would be surprised how a simple realignment in foreign policy could go in fixing this mess that the US is primarily responsible for creating.
ha, ha, ha - respect russia's sovereignty? how about russia respecting crimea's and ukraine's soverieignty?
Surely you don't want to have a tit for tat discussion on how the US doesn't respect the sovereignty of other countries and I will add that I very much doubt that you have any idea of what brought up the situation in Crimea and the Ukraine.
enlighten me
nevermind. i'm sure this makes it all right: http://blogs.wsj.com/briefly/2014/03/18 ... ng-crimea/
the US was wrong in iraq, iran (supporting the shah), and el salvador, to name a few. us being wrong doesn't give others a pass.
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From the article :
Where’s the outrage?
"Democrat Senate Minority leader Chuck Schumer continues to push the Russia conspiracy.But it was Schumer who met with Putin in New York City – not Trump.
The picture above was taken in 2003 as Russian President Vladimir Putin, right, enjoys a Krispy Kreme doughnut and coffee with Senator Charles Schumer from New York as Putin visits the first New York gas station of the Russian company Lukoil.
The hysteria over Trump administration officials talking — or not talking — with Russia needs to end.
It’s getting in the way of putting America back on track."
Schumer wasn't running for President. That's the difference.
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Restatement, again. It's okay to talk to Russians, and it is a normal and desirable part of the job of politicians and their aides. They do have to disclose those meetings and in some cases are required to be debriefed by intelligence agencies about the content of the discussions. That's also part of the job.
It's okay for regular citizens to talk to Russian officials, too. Depending on who you talk to, you might get some interest from the IC there, too. If it turns out you were encouraging or even turning a blind eye to criminal acts undertaken by their affiliates, in the interest of creating some gain for yourself, that is always a problem.
The Russians have a loose network of hackers who receive protection in exchange for doing some work. Their government doesn't get anywhere near the oversight of ours, so we have more limits on how we can use that kind of resource.
If you look at it from the context of motive, method, and opportunity, we have 2 out of 3 so far, and only an investigation can decide whether the content of the discussions violates US law.
For the record, if anyone can prove we interfered in their elections, they should stand up to the US. I'd support an investigation there, as well, and I believe it would also violate our laws. It would certainly cause some heads to roll, metaphorically.
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You're 100% sure that it isn't for fear of muslim aggression? Whoops, wrong thread.
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Russian hackers didn't make John Podesta use 'p@ssword' as his password or fall for some stupid phishing scheme, it didn't make him say or do any of the things revealed in those emails either so to blame the Russians for anything is preposterous and delusional in the extreme. There is nothing sophisticated at all about the way that email was compromised and there is no real way to determine who or how many people gained access to that information which was distributed by Wikileaks which has never posted anything fake. There is no proof at all behind the insinuation that 'Russian hackers under the person orders of Vladimir Putin' were behind any of this to begin with and to blame these exposed emails(which are a separate issue from her own email problems) with Hillary losing is absolutely ridiculous. People are very stupid and trying to spread the idea that essentially is saying "Russia rigged our election therefor Trump isn't the legitimate president", this is deep state in action and they want to prove our democracy to be merely a mirage.
Russians didn't make Hillary campaign more in Arizona and Texas than Wisconsin and Michigan, they didn't make her or her staff do or say any of the unethical things that they did, they didn't make Anthony Weiner be a creepy pervert. Partisan knuckledraggers really need come to terms with the reality that they lost an election and to stop acting like you can just pretend like results this election didn't happen. All this talk about Trump being a threat to democracy but who is actually threatening our democracy? The theatrics and extremism of the Democratic party won't go unforgotten, this is a losing hand every times it's played.
Trump is a crook and has always been one! He's conned many people in the past, now he is literally conning the USA. Sickening.
People can claim he is innocent and Russia isn't an enemy all they want. The fact of the matter is- Jeff Sessions LIED UNDER OATH! Period. He should be fired or forced to resign. Trump's son-in-law had a meeting with Russians in Trump Tower in December. Apparently this was done in secret and now it's out in the open. Hiding meetings of any nature is suspicious. How many other secret meetings were there? How many illegal servers does Trump and friends have? The answer to both of those certainly isn't zero.
Trump is a chicken that can't release his taxes, because he knows it will show his connections and so on. People that are pro-Trump will come up with nearly any excuse in the book, ignoring what experts have said on the matter! Sorry Trump fans but all these experts aren't just people that are trying to take down Trump.
People can claim he is innocent and Russia isn't an enemy all they want. The fact of the matter is- Jeff Sessions LIED UNDER OATH! Period. He should be fired or forced to resign. Trump's son-in-law had a meeting with Russians in Trump Tower in December. Apparently this was done in secret and now it's out in the open. Hiding meetings of any nature is suspicious. How many other secret meetings were there? How many illegal servers does Trump and friends have? The answer to both of those certainly isn't zero.
Trump is a chicken that can't release his taxes, because he knows it will show his connections and so on. People that are pro-Trump will come up with nearly any excuse in the book, ignoring what experts have said on the matter! Sorry Trump fans but all these experts aren't just people that are trying to take down Trump.
Remember how they went after Bill Clinton for meeting briefly with Loretta Lynch? Now it comes out the Pence was using a private AOL email account, which was hacked, to do state business. The hypocrisy is staggering.
While I dislike prognostication, there are few things I feel fairly certain of.
Trump will continue as President throughout his term and get better at doing the job.
Nothing will be resolved with all the Russian connection/influence/blackmail/hacking etc investigation nonsense.
However even though the Russian connection investigations will go nowhere - they will be brought up in 2020 - which seems to be the whole point of them in the first place.
For that reason, I think Trump would be very naive if he trusted him....but if he wants to increase the U.S. nuclear arsenal, then maybe he doesn't.
Personally I don't want to see another nuclear arms race, and I think the move to increase the nuclear arsenal is a dangerous one, however I do support his desire to strengthen the military, but I'm not sure more funding is the way to go, because we spend significantly on military funding already, and despite that, we haven't been very successful in our military campaigns.
You make a very good point about the increase in military spending. I thought we would not get into big wars with Trump as president, but Hillary was certain to get us into one.
Regarding rebuilding the USSR, I think it's more about Russians feeling shocked that they don't have the power they used to have over lesser people. It's about the strongman, not the ideology. In that regard, they resemble some Trump voters.
I don't believe Hillary Clinton would have gotten us into a war. She had established rapports with the leaders of other countries and knew the playing field. I think she gets a disproportionate amount of criticism for her role in the formation of ISIS, compared to officials who have made strategic decisions with similar or worse unfavorable results.
You may disagree, but one way or another it's not worth debating that which did not transpire.
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